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Sanitary Naptime posted:someone had a vocal gripe about it itt ...why?  1/02: January 5th 1902: George Bernard Shaw's play Mrs. Warren's Profession, about a sex worker and her prudish daughter, is performed in London for the first time. It definitely riles up the prudish Victorian theater-goers. Venomous fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Surprise T Rex posted:But the Middle East (all of it) is The Bad Guys and "we" (the UK and the USA which are broadly the same) are The Good Guys so this is worse. You need to choose the TV news channel you go on based on the (skin) tone. Isn't that the rule?
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OwlFancier posted:How do you know who shylock is without knowing he's jewish, he's like if shakespeare time travelled to 1935 germany for his inspiration. I mean, he might just know that Shylock was a money-lender and the antagonist. In such a context jumping to "bad money lender, therefore jew" would itself be a pretty problematic thing. I had to look Shylock up, because I didn't do The Merchant of Venice in school. Did R&J, Winter's Tale, Much Ado, Midsummer and MacBeth.
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I think the simpsons meme thread might kill me. I cannot believe there are 308 more pages to go and already I have tears streaming down my face and my chest in pain with laughter. I am certainly going to get found out at work if I continue and yet....
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Miftan posted:While you're right, it's a double standard since nobody who criticises him for going on Iranian TV would bat an eye lid if he went on US TV, a country that has done much worse to far more people. The media there ranges between 'absolute denial' and 'somehow worse than Middle Eastern state sponsored propoganda' as well. While I see your point this line of argument just would not fly at all. Anywhere. Did he at least express regret or anything?
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Communist Thoughts posted:It's actually even worse than that... Corbyn has been on British state TV many times even though they constantly gently caress with him, and the brits have killed millions and were blowing people up and putting them in camps at the time... Eschenique posted:Because the Iranian regime is atrocious and appearing on their official state TV while accepting their money is tantamount to support? Atlantis The Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands Glubbdubdrib OwlFancier posted:How do you know who shylock is without knowing he's jewish, he's like if shakespeare time travelled to 1935 germany for his inspiration. Although I'm not certain what accent Shakey thought that Jews had back then. Mine went with some form of 'Slavic grandad'.
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Eschenique posted:While I see your point this line of argument just would not fly at all. Anywhere. Depends on if you're trying to convince lib dems or people who actually know anything about how the world works, I suppose. StoicFnord posted:You need to choose the TV news channel you go on based on the (skin) tone. Isn't that the rule? That explains why Israel is considered Good at least (despite having lots of brown Jews [and don't get me started on the Palestinians!] but even Israel tries to ignore them). Guavanaut posted:Although I'm not certain what accent Shakey thought that Jews had back then. Mine went with some form of 'Slavic grandad'. Slavic Grandad is the name of my hardcore Yiddish ska-punk band Miftan fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Eschenique posted:While I see your point this line of argument just would not fly at all. Anywhere. It's true though
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Tesseraction posted:I mean, he might just know that Shylock was a money-lender and the antagonist. In such a context jumping to "bad money lender, therefore jew" would itself be a pretty problematic thing. I mean it's been a very long time since I did it but basically all of his characterisation that I recall is 1. He's Jewish. 2. He's evil, and greedy and wants to literally carve off your flesh. 3. He's really weaselly when you complain about any of that. He's genuinely the most antisemitic stereotype imaginable. I can get not knowing who he is at all but it's really weird to me that you would know enough to get the reference the character without knowing that he's a literary version of a nazi propaganda poster.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:(plus the livestream on election night) Argh christ not sure I'll be able to take that Is anyone else planning to take the 13th off work and stay up all night? I'm umming and aahing over it. I hate every second of election night broadcasting but can't stop looking at it.
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Sanford posted:Argh christ not sure I'll be able to take that I'm gonna stay up really late and still go to work in the morning.
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Ratjaculation posted:Good work Question Time goon Thanks! Dawn Foster is about to lose favour with a chunk of the thread - https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1192766457488252928?s=20 (She's right. I mean, all the secession possibilities are likely bad anyway, but the raw English nationalism that is at the heart of the gammony brexiteer movement that might put BoJo back into office might make them the literal lesser of two evils.)
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Venomous posted:...why? Oh no... I've just blown out a definite shag. What a tosser! #marywhitehouse
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Ratjaculation posted:Good work Question Time goon Poor comparison. People might watch Question Time but no one is really reading any of this  CptAwesome posted:It's true though I don't see how I could ever make a good faith argument out of "If you've been on US TV you can't throw stones over someone showing implied support to any other regimes" Miftan posted:Depends on if you're trying to convince lib dems or people who actually know anything about how the world works, I suppose. What about existing Labour supporters who questions Corbyn personally? Guavanaut posted:List of states that aren't atrocious and don't commit human rights abuses: I feel like this attitude if anything protects lovely regimes.
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StoicFnord posted:I just want to throttle LD supporters on my social media. I cant help it, it just rises up like bile. There's the delusional, that think they'll be in some "yellow wave" and the LD's will get a majority, so there's no reasoning there. And there's those FBPE asses that are adamant about Labour being some sort of ultra leave nexus despite the f*cking policy being "Peoples vote motherf*ckers". As much as my politics being aspirational, i am not blind to reality, but these shits all seem to be in some delusion land where its always a two horse race the the LD's are second. welcome, lurker. here is a good yellow thing for us all to enjoy: the canary, various     suggestion: Lib Dems in cages down coal mines, not canaries
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If you're talking to someone who dislikes corbyn because he went on iranian TV then what is their proposed alternative? Would they like to vote for one of the freaks who wants to bomb everything in sight instead? I think it's pretty obvious that corbyn doesn't support Iranian domestic policy because he went on their telly any more than he supports british domestic policy because he goes on ours.
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StoicFnord posted:"yellow wave" lol
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Junior G-man posted:Podcast listener feedback question:
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mehall posted:Dawn Foster is about to lose favour with a chunk of the thread - *Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika plays softly in the background as two Xhosa police officers beat a Nigerian man* Eschenique posted:I feel like this attitude if anything protects lovely regimes.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean it's been a very long time since I did it but basically all of his characterisation that I recall is 1. He's Jewish. 2. He's evil, and greedy and wants to literally carve off your flesh. 3. He's really weaselly when you complain about any of that. He's a literal hook nosed banker, and while some people will say he does get a redemption at the end they often neglect to mention that that 'redemption' comes in the form of him being forced to convert to Christianity.
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Pablo Bluth posted:How many subscribers have you got so far? The app I use, podcast addict, claims 102 subs but it's not clear where it gets that from and how complete the number is. We're pulling in about 600 listeners per episode, but no way of knowing how many of those are regular listeners.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean it's been a very long time since I did it but basically all of his characterisation that I recall is 1. He's Jewish. 2. He's evil, and greedy and wants to literally carve off your flesh. 3. He's really weaselly when you complain about any of that. I remember in my GCSE literature class my teacher really really trying to spin an interpretation of MoV where Shakespeare was actually making some biting social commentary about contemporary antisemitism. There are a few lines that would support this ('if you prick us do we not bleed' etc) but on the whole I still think the tone is more going for 'haha look at the silly jew' tbh.
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I really wish i had known about the videogames episode, i could have told stories of working as an unpaid tester for Rockstar. Also why do i have a tag from Pissflaps.
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OwlFancier posted:If you're talking to someone who dislikes corbyn because he went on iranian TV then what is their proposed alternative? Someone named Watson I think?
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CyberPingu posted:I really wish i had known about the videogames episode, i could have told stories of working as an unpaid tester for Rockstar. It's your eternal shame for posting in the pissflaps thread.
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CyberPingu posted:I really wish i had known about the videogames episode, i could have told stories of working as an unpaid tester for Rockstar. 5 years in games and i ran the gently caress away at the first opportunity and never looked back. I still get flashbacks and curl up in a ball at it. The people i got on with there was great, the environment sucked balls. (Jagex btw)
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ThomasPaine posted:I remember in my GCSE literature class my teacher really really trying to spin an interpretation of MoV where Shakespeare was actually making some biting social commentary about contemporary antisemitism. I always interpreted the "if you prick us do we not bleed" thing, in the context of the rest of the characterisation, and coming as I recall after he's been beaten, as trying to show the character as cowardly and contemptible. Especially if you consider it in the context of supposed christian virtue where the proper response isn't supposed to be revenge. He's all dominance until after he's beaten at which point he switches to making excuses. I don't think it's supposed to engender sympathy to the character. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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ThomasPaine posted:I remember in my GCSE literature class my teacher really really trying to spin an interpretation of MoV where Shakespeare was actually making some biting social commentary about contemporary antisemitism. That's kinda gone away in modern antisemitism, translated into "Jews are obsessed with amassing money" rather than some innate incapability to appreciate metaphor and spirituality, possibly because late capitalist society doesn't value the ability to appreciate metaphor and spirituality as much, idk, although it has come back a bit recently in 'ironic antisemitism' because (and you'll probably have guessed why) Eric Cartman believes it.
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Miftan posted:It's your eternal shame for posting in the pissflaps thread. I got tricked, i was told that was the GE thread
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StoicFnord posted:(Jagex btw) aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha which iteration of runescape
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StoicFnord posted:5 years in games and i ran the gently caress away at the first opportunity and never looked back. I still get flashbacks and curl up in a ball at it. The people i got on with there was great, the environment sucked balls. Yeah luckily it was when i was a student and it was never my intention to do it full time. Its awful though, almost made me want to stop playing games full stop
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Tesseraction posted:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha Runescape is bullshit, cool kids went to Jagex for uhhh Flea Circus and all that other poo poo I can't remember.
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Ah but he would wouldn't he, the remainer https://twitter.com/dimasciov/status/1192565024361009152
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sebzilla posted:Runescape is bullshit, cool kids went to Jagex for uhhh Flea Circus and all that other poo poo I can't remember. literally had to google to find the other game names because lol
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You know how England re-conquered Scotland by just making the king of Scotland the king of England and then he just went mad with power and England became the primary throne anyway. What if Labour offers Jo Swinson the leadership position. Then Labour would command both the Labour and the Lib dem vote.
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OwlFancier posted:How do you know who shylock is without knowing he's jewish, he's like if shakespeare time travelled to 1935 germany for his inspiration. Yeah I can accept not knowing who Shylock is I cannot accept knowing who Shylock is and not knowing he's Jewish. It's pretty fundamental to the story. Aramoro fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Venomous posted:...why? I don’t think they were confident in the operation of the pause button, I dunno? We were keen to try and not go over that maximum but so much loving stuff keeps happening. Sanford posted:Argh christ not sure I'll be able to take that Join us or be a coward. We’ll be dipping in to the live broadcasting from whatever source as we see fit but otherwise it’ll just be shooting the poo poo and play along live Comment or Commentariat and watching tories gently caress up all night with alcohol, it’ll be a laugh. CyberPingu posted:I really wish i had known about the videogames episode, i could have told stories of working as an unpaid tester for Rockstar. Good news, it won’t be the last VG episode
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Tesseraction posted:Ah but he would wouldn't he, the remainer David Aaronovitch's gonna stalk him shouting about his mixed fabric tie.
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Eschenique posted:You know how England re-conquered Scotland by just making the king of Scotland the king of England and then he just went mad with power and England became the primary throne anyway. Comment
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