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Fast and Furious 14 will reveal all the movies are actually Pitch Black prequels.
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Foxfire_ posted:Fast and Furious II is
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Nov 9, 2019 10:25
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:The other two Riddick movies kind of spoil the arc he has in Pitch Black, but seriously, I really rate PB. It's a great story of if not redemption, then at least trying to atone in some small way. I completely agree with this. In Pitch Black, Riddick is a character, with a past, motivations, depth, and an arc. Vin Diesel saw that, and thought, "this is great, but would be better if this character was the bestest toughest, baddest, superduperest last of his kind alien badarse who is not only a criminal, but a goodie and can do magic and fly and ..." And thus the Riddick films came into existence. The Fast and Furious films are exactly the same. The first is Point Break, but with cars. Then it becomes the Vin Diesel, "family" "vroom vroom I am tough" show. Which became fun once it got properly absurd. The last one I saw had The Rock flex his muscles so hard he broke a cast on his arm, and then he picked up a helicopter gun to shoot at Jason Statham.
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Nov 9, 2019 11:15
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BrigadierSensible posted:The last one I saw had The Rock flex his muscles so hard he broke a cast on his arm, and then he picked up a helicopter gun to shoot at Jason Statham. So literally this but in live action? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt4SrzibV0
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Nov 9, 2019 11:17
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BrigadierSensible posted:This is not the "unpopular opinions" thread, but people are talking about it so: Why would they put a picture of a chicken on there?
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Nov 9, 2019 11:23
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BioEnchanted posted:So literally this but in live action? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt4SrzibV0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eiDSjXkg8k Yes
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Nov 9, 2019 11:24
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Zwille posted:The deaf assassin (wasn’t she supposed to be deaf?) signs just as woodenly though, as always when a hearing character plays a deaf one. If anything Reeve‘s acting is more realistic because Wick actually is hearing. (This should go in the pet peeves thread: any show/movie where they have hearing people play deaf people. It always looks like poo poo) Speaking of deaf assassins the claw Hammer Lady and karambit guy in the raid two are a very cool couple signing characters
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Nov 9, 2019 11:51
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Foxfire_ posted:. Hey! HEY! Thats not fair at all! The Rocks superpower is MUSCLE, and MUSCLE can solve all problems not directly solvable by CAR. And Jason Stathams superpower may be GUN or possibly KICK (although they both of course also minor in CAR. Actually in The Rocks case his minor is in SUV, but close enough). Those movies are dumb as hell in the best possible way, and if you watch them in the mindset of "These guys are car wizards, having car wizard duels" they are fun as hell. It is also loving hilarious to watch some of the later ones with the fate of the world as the stakes, and remember that this is started as a movie franchise about some meathead car thieves who like to go fast. BiggerBoat posted:I've never seen any of the John Wick movies and have heard they're good but jesus christ is the whole movie just some guy basically doing a mass shooting except he's ostensibly the hero and doing it artistically so now it's Cool? I watched that clip someone posted and did not like it. Holy poo poo I don't want to watch anything like that for 2 hours no matter how sympathetic the dude's cause might be. gently caress almighty it just looks like bullet/gun fetish porn. Is there more to it? If this is you trying not to sound like a film snob, you must be INSUFFERABLE when you arent trying. "Let me tell you why you are wrong to say there is anything subtle about the movies you like which I have not seen"? And then you get pissy when people point out what a dumb thing to say that is? Although I am slightly curious how you "like a good action movie" but dont like to see car chases or gun violence (and have failed to see John Wick, one of the most widely praised action movies of the last decade)? Are we talking only kung-fu movies set pre-1900 or what? John Wick is on Netflix. It would take what, 2 hours to watch it? You might enjoy it or you might not, but at least then you would have an informed opinion instead of just a loud one. So I'm clear; you are absolutely allowed to not like the fast and furious films. Those movies are dumb as hell, although extremely entertaining if you enjoy dumb movies (and watching actors with creative control egos inflate in real time), but if you dont like that kind of thing, fair enough. You are also absolutely allowed to not like John Wick. That is an opinion which someone could theoretically have, and although I would argue that, unlike the F&F franchise, John Wick is both an extremely good action movie and also a good quality film, theres no accounting for taste. And there are valid criticisms to be made of movies in either franchise. You are also allowed to not watch them! But look at this post you made, apparently on purpose. Look at it. You are asking people to engage with your opinions about movies you have not even seen, while simultaneously refusing to engage with the opinions of people who have actually seen those films. You are allowed to just think "Those movies arent for me" and let discussion of them pass you by, thats what most people do when discussion turns to movies they havent seen and arent interested in seeing.
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Nov 9, 2019 12:22
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Calaveron posted:Jackie Chan is just incredible Yeah I love his films. The one criticism I have is none of his characters are memorable in themselves, they're always just Jackie. I saw Police Story 2 recently and early on his girlfriend gets beaten up. He storms into a restaurant with righteous fury to kick the poo poo out of the guys who did it. It's not the most technically impressive fight he's done (even in this movie the playground scene is better), but it has an emotional intensity you rarely see in these fights and it's the one time I've seen any of his characters as a dangerous individual you really don't want to cross. I'd have liked if he'd mixed things up a bit and wasn't always the lovable cuddly hero.
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Nov 9, 2019 12:25
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SiKboy posted:Those movies are dumb as hell in the best possible way, and if you watch them in the mindset of "These guys are car wizards, having car wizard duels" they are fun as hell. It is also loving hilarious to watch some of the later ones with the fate of the world as the stakes, and remember that this is started as a movie franchise about some meathead car thieves who like to go fast. Yeah the evolution of Dominic Toretto, Muscle Man Who Drives Fast Cars to Dominic Toretto, Muscle Man Who Drives Fast Cars And Is Also An Elite Special Forces Operator Apparently? is truly excellent in its audacity. And Clint Eastwood's kid is real easy on the eyes.
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Nov 9, 2019 12:53
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The Maestro posted:What’s subtle about the Fast and Furious movies is you think they’re about cars, but they’re really about family. Car means family in swahili so you're both right and wrong at the same time!
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Nov 9, 2019 13:12
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bitterandtwisted posted:Yeah I love his films. The one criticism I have is none of his characters are memorable in themselves, they're always just Jackie. Watch New Police Story, or Police Story 2013 if you want to see an old man Jackie Chan adding some nuance to his character, and not just being the acrobatic clown he is so good at. The Foreigner is also another good Jackie Chan film where he plays a beaten down old man, (who manages to kick the arse of several IRA agents), where he acts more than usual. Then watch Drunken Master 2. Just coz it is a fun movie. Especially for the sword fight under the train.
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Nov 9, 2019 14:12
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Thanks, I'll check those out. And yeah, Drunken Master 2 is great. Possibly my favourite.
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Nov 9, 2019 14:23
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BiggerBoat posted:I've never seen any of the John Wick movies and have heard they're good but jesus christ is the whole movie just some guy basically doing a mass shooting except he's ostensibly the hero and doing it artistically so now it's Cool? I watched that clip someone posted and did not like it. Holy poo poo I don't want to watch anything like that for 2 hours no matter how sympathetic the dude's cause might be. gently caress almighty it just looks like bullet/gun fetish porn. Is there more to it? I kind of agree with you in that the Wick movies are weakest when he's just mowing down dozens of faceless henchmen. I can't help but wonder what kind of benefits or compensation would be required for these guys to face certain death and not just run away. We know other assassins are after the multi-million dollar bounties, but I'm assuming random guards and thugs are just salarymen with families to support. Watching 30 men get killed, even if they're bad guys, isn't really that entertaining. The movies are strongest when it's an extended fight scene with only a few antagonists. Like the knives and hatchets fight in Parabellum. But I can't deny the amount of effort and talent that goes into choreographing those extended fight scenes. They're fun to watch if just to admire the film making.
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Nov 9, 2019 14:46
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Krispy Wafer posted:I kind of agree with you in that the Wick movies are weakest when he's just mowing down dozens of faceless henchmen. I can't help but wonder what kind of benefits or compensation would be required for these guys to face certain death and not just run away. We know other assassins are after the multi-million dollar bounties, but I'm assuming random guards and thugs are just salarymen with families to support. Watching 30 men get killed, even if they're bad guys, isn't really that entertaining. I'm just picturing the Venture Bros bit where it turns out literally all of the Monarch's henchmen besides 21 and 24 are suicidal.
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Nov 9, 2019 14:49
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An actual subtle moment with John Wick 3: Ian McShane’s scenes near the end where he’s trying to win over John next to the fancy chess set and the scene shortly afterward where he’s mumbling to himself and says the title of the film both seem like pretty normal scenes until you look back at them from the perspective of the ending and realize he’s openly talking about selling John out.
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Nov 9, 2019 14:59
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ScentOfAnOtaku posted:I recently watched the Riddick movies and I have to say, I used to hate them, and I really like all of them now. Sure, they aren't masterpieces, but people are having fun in them, the action is fun, and the big environmental dangers of each movie make them feel somewhat familiar. I see Riddick as Space Conan the Barbarian (closer to the Robert E. Howard version than the movies) in that he always wins because he's badder, smarter, and luckier than everyone else, but isn't necessarily happy with what he ends up with at the end.
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Nov 9, 2019 16:11
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Chronicles is the weakest Riddick movie but I really liked Riddick (3) where he's just chilling on death scorpion planet and then some assholes from other Sci-Fi properties show up to pick a fight. The first half of the movie where it's just Riddick and his pet leopard dog look like Frank Frazetta paintings in motion.
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Nov 9, 2019 16:18
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Krispy Wafer posted:I kind of agree with you in that the Wick movies are weakest when he's just mowing down dozens of faceless henchmen. I can't help but wonder what kind of benefits or compensation would be required for these guys to face certain death and not just run away. We know other assassins are after the multi-million dollar bounties, but I'm assuming random guards and thugs are just salarymen with families to support. Watching 30 men get killed, even if they're bad guys, isn't really that entertaining. Well I guess him channeling his ex partners death into the character for the first movie was lost on a lot of people.
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Nov 9, 2019 16:58
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Biplane posted:Fast and Furious 14 will reveal all the movies are actually Pitch
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Nov 9, 2019 17:44
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Memento posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PCtIaM_GQ I've quoted this video before in this thread, but I watch it every time people talk about Jackie Chan fighting. The buildups. The multiple resets of the fight, were they both look different every time. The explosively powerful attacks with a couple different edits to make them look even bigger and stronger. The part where he's at his lowest, and adopts a new mentality, and the music rises to match. I just love this scene so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjzADJxihA Edit: Also adding this Jackie Chan scene as I believe it's the most WTF thing he ever filmed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_BOO7AoJ2M Olaf The Stout has a new favorite as of 05:51 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Nov 10, 2019 05:32
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I know drunken Master 2 is probably the superior film but I can't help but love the original because Jackie Chan has got such good comedic chemistry with his teacher when he's training to not be a petulant shithead.
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Nov 10, 2019 15:07
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Jestery posted:Oh I forgot to mention, Don't sign your posts.
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Nov 10, 2019 16:04
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Hey thanks for the recommendation man of tai chi was incredible
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Nov 10, 2019 19:09
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Yeah it's criminal how underseen that movie is.
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Nov 10, 2019 21:12
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Baron von Eevl posted:On the first album with that setup, A Senile Animal, they definitely did one drummer more close-miced and one more roomy although I'm not sure the specific techniques. A few pages back but you've triggered me. Blum M/S is definitely interesting. Mostly before the up/down cancelation of the room in the nodes. I'm pretty sure, technically, M/S Blumein is just Blumlein when 'decoded' at the people levels. Though Google, Wes Dooley MS to get more technical info. M/S won't do much in stereo. It's beauty is in mono cancelation. M/S 'synthesizes' other coincident stereo techniques with the added bonus of mono compatibility. People always think of M/S as faux stereo because of the polarity flips that happen without understanding the nature of mic polarity and pattern interaction. It's not trying to fake stereo at all... Sorry to rant
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Nov 10, 2019 21:32
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Wikipedia calls a different setup Blumlein too that involves multiple figure-8 mics so I bothered to specify Blumlein MS.
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Nov 11, 2019 02:50
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Man of Tai Chi seems like keanu reeves just wanted to make a foreign film. It doesn't read like a film intended for the west. Tai Chi is, well the first thing I think of is that chinese dissident who does MMA beat downs on professed tai chi masters proving it's basically just aerobics for olds and not real. A movie where it's real is like, pandering to beijing perhaps? I wonder how hard they marketed this in the US, if at all. His first underground fight is against an MMA guy who pins him on the ground and does head poounds, and he does tai chi good enough to beat him anyway. That feels deliberate?
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Nov 11, 2019 03:06
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Krinkle posted:Man of Tai Chi seems like keanu reeves just wanted to make a foreign film. It doesn't read like a film intended for the west. Tai Chi is, well the first thing I think of is that chinese dissident who does MMA beat downs on professed tai chi masters proving it's basically just aerobics for olds and not real. A movie where it's real is like, pandering to beijing perhaps? I wonder how hard they marketed this in the US, if at all. I think Keanu really wanted to make it because he loves movies like that. I love it because Keanu is a really good villain and we don't ever really get that.
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Nov 11, 2019 03:32
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think Keanu really wanted to make it because he loves movies like that. I love it because Keanu is a really good villain and we don't ever really get that. 
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Nov 11, 2019 05:23
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The Ape of Naples posted:A few pages back but you've triggered me. Blum M/S is definitely interesting. Mostly before the up/down cancelation of the room in the nodes. I'm pretty sure, technically, M/S Blumein is just Blumlein when 'decoded' at the people levels. Though Google, Wes Dooley MS to get more technical info. M/S won't do much in stereo. It's beauty is in mono cancelation. M/S 'synthesizes' other coincident stereo techniques with the added bonus of mono compatibility. I thought the leading contender for faux-stereo was the Haas effect? 
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Nov 11, 2019 12:56
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Krinkle posted:Man of Tai Chi seems like keanu reeves just wanted to make a foreign film. It doesn't read like a film intended for the west. Tai Chi is, well the first thing I think of is that chinese dissident who does MMA beat downs on professed tai chi masters proving it's basically just aerobics for olds and not real. A movie where it's real is like, pandering to beijing perhaps? I wonder how hard they marketed this in the US, if at all. Pretty sure that was kung fu, not tai chi, everyone knows tai chi isn't a martial art. (see that Arj Barker joke about being ambushed by a tai chi gang. 'They only hit me twice. But it took eight hours. I don't have that kind of time!')
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Nov 11, 2019 13:56
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty sure that was kung fu, not tai chi, everyone knows tai chi isn't a martial art. (see that Arj Barker joke about being ambushed by a tai chi gang. 'They only hit me twice. But it took eight hours. I don't have that kind of time!') It was even more nebulous than that - some kind of "magic aura" stuff. E: apparently I am wrong and there was also a Tai Chi thing with the same magic bullshit attached to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXRZ89gzvcA
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Nov 11, 2019 14:22
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Pilchenstein posted:What about that thing where he was the serial killer who set James Spader's wife on fire? Third-billed Keanu Reeves gave his verbal agreement to director Joe Charbanic several years before production started, after reading his original script. With his involvement, the filmakers were later able to attract a bigger cast and budget than originally envisioned, and Reeves' part (originally meant as little more than a cameo) was substantially re-written to feature him more prominently. Reportedly, Keanu Reeves, who would be paid scale while his co-stars James Spader and Marisa Tomei would get one million dollar paychecks, tried to drop out of the film, but eventually changed his mind (apparently influenced by the legal precedent of the Kim Basinger/Boxing Helena (1993) debacle). He eventually agreed to do the picture and abstain from bad mouthing it in interviews, on the condition that his involvment in the film be downplayed in all promotional material for the film, including trailers. Keanu Reeves was contracted by the studio not to say anything negative until a year after the film's release. He waited the full year to publicly bash the movie and revealed how someone forged his signature on the contract to star in the film. So if you like Keanu, it’s best to pretend that movie does not even exist.
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Nov 11, 2019 16:02
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I'd genuinely forgotten Oscar Winner Marisa Tomei was in that
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Mierenneuker posted:Third-billed Keanu Reeves gave his verbal agreement to director Joe Charbanic several years before production started, after reading his original script. With his involvement, the filmakers were later able to attract a bigger cast and budget than originally envisioned, and Reeves' part (originally meant as little more than a cameo) was substantially re-written to feature him more prominently. Reportedly, Keanu Reeves, who would be paid scale while his co-stars James Spader and Marisa Tomei would get one million dollar paychecks, tried to drop out of the film, but eventually changed his mind (apparently influenced by the legal precedent of the Kim Basinger/Boxing Helena (1993) debacle). He eventually agreed to do the picture and abstain from bad mouthing it in interviews, on the condition that his involvment in the film be downplayed in all promotional material for the film, including trailers. The article that has Reeves talking about how he was tricked into being in this movie was released on Sept 11, 2001. I wonder how much press that got?
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Nov 11, 2019 16:56
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Scumbags love a big natural disaster or terrorist attack, best time to release a story that makes you look bad or make a court-ordered apology or an unpopular move. The Australian airline Ansett was placed into administration by their parent company on September 12, 2001, amid allegations of asset stripping and with the employees being told the company had gone bust when they went to work on the 13th.
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Nov 11, 2019 23:43
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Memento posted:Scumbags love a big natural disaster or terrorist attack, best time to release a story that makes you look bad or make a court-ordered apology or an unpopular move. Famously, "It is now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury. Councillors expenses?" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1358985/Sept-11-a-good-day-to-bury-bad-news.html
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Nov 12, 2019 03:29
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September 11th allowed the live-action Tick show & Andy Richter Controls the Universe to see the light of day. IIRC it's likely what helped Zoolander become popular as that was sitting on the back burner for a while until studio execs were "We need to pump out comedies to SAVE AMERICA."
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Zoolander is a dumb dumb dumb movie but I love it. Thank god for nine ele-... woah. Little close there.
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