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A Sometimes Food: Dec 8, 2010

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/richardbranson/status/1193840819091976193?s=19

Can't help but feel no PR people got to see this photo before it was published.

So uh, does anyone have a screen shot of this from a few days ago, I missed it.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:47

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# ? May 26, 2024 14:44

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

To summarise, gently caress the lib dems.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:48

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

A Sometimes Food posted:

So uh, does anyone have a screen shot of this from a few days ago, I missed it.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:51

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

Okay imagine we live in whatever fantasy world Skills Wallets lives in

Seriously what the gently caress do the 'Remain Alliance' think is going to happen when they revoke A50?

Sunshine and ice cream? They need to get loving real.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:52

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

I recently found that this gem from 2017 is still my forum siggy

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:56

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Bold of you to assume liberals can think rather than being p zombies fed a corpus of management textbooks.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:57

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Ratjaculation posted:

Okay imagine we live in whatever fantasy world Skills Wallets lives in

Seriously what the gently caress do the 'Remain Alliance' think is going to happen when they revoke A50?

Sunshine and ice cream? They need to get loving real.

The politicians and businesspeople know the police will protect them.

The voters think that Brexit is the cause of the tension rather than the result.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:57

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Ratjaculation posted:

I recently found that this gem from 2017 is still my forum siggy

I choose to believe "we" is the bots. The bots have become self aware and want to brexit.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:58

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

namesake posted:

Who is 'us' in this context? If you're the Labour Party then it sounds like they're interfering in electoral activity and need to go gently caress themselves.

Yes 'us' = Labour. Don't know if any other parties are affected! (But I don't think any of the other parties are organizing these sorts of things. Tories tried to 'steal' our stall space last weekend and were gobsmacked when we informed them we had permission from the council - which we organize every year for the whole year ahead).

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:00

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

Diet Crack posted:

She makes a healthy living off it to be fair, you'd be surprised the amount they can bring in if you're quite professional about it.

I mean, I'm sure, but does she ONLY see married men, single guys don't qualify?

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:01

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

The strangest of sights, a good lib dem????

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1194327946107867137?s=20

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:02

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

Not at all, but that tends to be the majority of clientele - she also does fetishes as shes a fetish model.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:02

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Perhaps the tories complained and the council has decided to ban all of it, whether they should or not. Sounds like something you should pursue!

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:02

Nettle Soup: Jan 30, 2010; Oh, and Jones was there too.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Which is odd, because sex within a marriage is very much ok with the bible, at least according to Paul's letters to the Corinthians. A dude at our old church did a talk on it based on having visited the archaeological sites and looked at scans and transcripts of the original languages, and it's pretty sex positive within a marriage. Even outside of a marriage it essentially boils down to 'if you are having sex we really think you should probably marry' but ultimately none of the hell and damnation poo poo that tarnishes so much US right wing religion.

I've said it before*, but canon Jesus is so much better than fandom Jesus.

It seems like a lot of the puritanical stuff comes about by the point that the church was being manipulated as a method of keeping the poor and mostly illiterate population under control. Once towns became larger and cities started to suffer visible overpopulation, it was seen as enough of a problem by the wealthy.

I watched a video on YouTube about the Victorians which also said it was around that time attitudes changed, as people started to tend to have one house per family, so you didn't have to put up with the couple loving at the other end of the room behind a curtain. Also something to do with the Queen's attitudes to sex changing after mourning, and how that bled into the national attitude as well.

* _{because I stole it from Tumblr}

Riley strikes me as the precise kind of person who is so caught up in numerical literacy that she has left absolutely no brainpower spare to think about the ethical consequences of economic policy. Literally bigger number = better and sod the consequences.

It's interesting, because Queen Victoria was super up for it, but after she died, her daughter censored and destroyed all her diaries and letters to make her seem much more prudish than she actually was. She said one of the things she most missed, after Albert died, was the sex. That said, the prolapsed uterus from having 9 kids probably didn't really help matters...

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:06

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yes 'us' = Labour. Don't know if any other parties are affected! (But I don't think any of the other parties are organizing these sorts of things. Tories tried to 'steal' our stall space last weekend and were gobsmacked when we informed them we had permission from the council - which we organize every year for the whole year ahead).

Oh are you using council property? They might need you to cancel that stuff during the election period then because of purdah.

Jedit kindly explained a lot of this on the podcast!

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:06

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Diet Crack posted:

she also does fetishes

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:09

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Nettle Soup posted:

It's interesting, because Queen Victoria was super up for it, but after she died, her daughter censored and destroyed all her diaries and letters to make her seem much more prudish than she actually was. She said one of the things she most missed, after Albert died, was the sex. That said, the prolapsed uterus from having 9 kids probably didn't really help matters...

victorians were filthy bastards and this idea that they were all hyper-prudish bores is very much a later idea that's retroactively projected onto them

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:09

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

New gang tag idea: Skills Wallets Inspectors

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:12

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

gh0stpinballa posted:

that has nothing to do with the porn industry or sex work, however, which i think *is* an interesting subject for discussion because it is a complex issue for leftists to navigate.

It also depends on which porn industry you mean as well. Do you mean the California porn industry with it's exploitative pay and practices, outright misogyny and performers expected to get cosmetic surgery as a matter of course?

Or do you mean the underground porn industry, the one where Nicki Blue was able to sell her virginity on livestream and has since gone on to talk about how her safewords weren't respected in a bondage video kink.com are still monetising to this day?

Or the other underground industry, formed by ex mainstream performers sick of mainstream standards, who are self directing like Lily Cade, or the aforementioned aussie sites formed by girls who wanted to make money but couldn't find anyone paying a fair rate?

Or the amateur sex worker industry, monetising social media by using 'clean' teaser photos on facebook and instagram ( and now tumblr) to link to paid snapchat accounts and cam sites, or just paid videos on pornhub?

Or speaking of pornhub, maybe the burgeoning free porn market serving homemade content and cut down sample promos from pay sites and making ad money to keep it all free to the end user?

Or maybe the Russian scene, which is either high art photography of impossibly beautiful women or terrying rape porn that almost certainly gets you on all the lists. Or the british grot scene, which appears to be the same two guys and the same van for the last 30 years.

See that's the problem with 'the porn industry,' is that there isn't just one. How would you even begin to legislate the californian industry (which badly needs it) without harming the ex-performer and amateur industries (which if anything need greater protection).

mfcrocker posted:

E: 154 is the number of sonnets Shakespeare wrote, who knew that singular "they" bangs

Trying to imagine Ricky Martin singing this.

OwlFancier posted:

The really silly part is they could have just made the full body flush go on after you've had sex so that the toilet doubles as a sex chamber without making it manky for the next person.

If they're not going to gunk you with fake cum then what's even the loving point.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:15

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

ThomasPaine posted:

victorians were filthy bastards and this idea that they were all hyper-prudish bores is very much a later idea that's retroactively projected onto them

They were massively concerned with sex at the state level though, that's when you first got laws against sex work based on the idea that they were a public health risk (and testing poor women is easier than blaming the sailors for being pox riddled), and anti-abortion laws and state interest in population.

Similar with the early modern period, individuals weren't prudish, but the state was terrified of witches causing miscarriages (or family planning being outside the reach of the state).

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:15

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

ThomasPaine posted:

victorians were filthy bastards and this idea that they were all hyper-prudish bores is very much a later idea that's retroactively projected onto them

Some of them were filthy bastards, others were hyper prudish boors, the former stayed on the down low to avoid the latter v0v

Gladstone was, for example, well known for his charitable works for fallen women.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Nov 12, 2019

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:16

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

Bobby Deluxe posted:

It also depends on which porn industry you mean as well. Do you mean the California porn industry with it's exploitative pay and practices, outright misogyny and performers expected to get cosmetic surgery as a matter of course?

Or do you mean the underground porn industry, the one where Nicki Blue was able to sell her virginity on livestream and has since gone on to talk about how her safewords weren't respected in a bondage video kink.com are still monetising to this day?

Or the other underground industry, formed by ex mainstream performers sick of mainstream standards, who are self directing like Lily Cade, or the aforementioned aussie sites formed by girls who wanted to make money but couldn't find anyone paying a fair rate?

Or the amateur sex worker industry, monetising social media by using 'clean' teaser photos on facebook and instagram ( and now tumblr) to link to paid snapchat accounts and cam sites, or just paid videos on pornhub?

Or speaking of pornhub, maybe the burgeoning free porn market serving homemade content and cut down sample promos from pay sites and making ad money to keep it all free to the end user?

Or maybe the Russian scene, which is either high art photography of impossibly beautiful women or terrying rape porn that almost certainly gets you on all the lists. Or the british grot scene, which appears to be the same two guys and the same van for the last 30 years.

See that's the problem with 'the porn industry,' is that there isn't just one. How would you even begin to legislate the californian industry (which badly needs it) without harming the ex-performer and amateur industries (which if anything need greater protection).

quoting this forevermore.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:20

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

ThomasPaine posted:

The strangest of sights, a good lib dem????

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1194327946107867137?s=20

Isn't that the dipshit from The New European paper who announced he was going to run in Canterbury only to have it pointed out that the Labour MP hasn't got a huge majority and is very pro EU & also not really a big Corbyn fan?

He's a dipshit.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:24

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forkboy84 posted:

Isn't that the dipshit from The New European paper who announced he was going to run in Canterbury only to have it pointed out that the Labour MP hasn't got a huge majority and is very pro EU & also not really a big Corbyn fan?

He's a dipshit.

It is, but I am willing to give reasonable credit to dipshits who stop being dipshits.

And yeah, the Victorians were much more concerned about public sex because as a reaction to the perceived "immorality" of their Enlightenment parents/grandparents, or that was one of the arguments I once saw mooted anyway.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:29

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1194330286730801152?s=19

Edit: didn't realise this was the same guy.

BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 12, 2019

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:32

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

Just give me girls in tights and latex and I'll get by.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:34

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1194330286730801152?s=19

lmao what a whiny dickhead

quote:

Whenever I see Barry Gardiner or Mark Francois on television, I realise how much Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson have contributed to the zombification of British politics. Reason, logic and the capacity for independent thought are qualities now pretty much irreconcilable with party allegiance.
...
As with so many things, Corbyn was incapable of adapting to changing times and could not see that my party was now every bit as much of a force to be reckoned with as his, if not more. In the EU elections, we not only beat Labour, but also won more seats than them and the Tories combined.

"Reason, logic and the capacity for independent thought are qualities now pretty much irreconcilable with party allegiance. This is why I am a proud member of the Liberal Democrats, formerly standing for the Liberal Democrats. No questions, please."

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:35

Braggart: Nov 10, 2011; always thank the rock hider

CGI Stardust posted:

nope, Ed "Ed Balls" Balls, the man himself (see first image in tweet)
https://twitter.com/Lizzyy89/status/1194016344448151553?s=19

I had completely forgotten that the Lib Dems demanded the removal of Balls!

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:36

NinpoEspiritoSanto: Oct 22, 2013

CGI Stardust posted:

lmao what a whiny dickhead

"Reason, logic and the capacity for independent thought are qualities now pretty much irreconcilable with party allegiance. This is why I am a proud member of the Liberal Democrats, formerly standing for the Liberal Democrats. No questions, please."

lol

e:

"my party [fib dems] was now every bit as much of a force to be reckoned with as his, if not more. [which is why I've decided to stand down despite being able to win here]"

ee:

*farrrrt*

NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Nov 12, 2019

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:38

Demiurge4: Aug 10, 2011

BizarroAzrael posted:

New gang tag idea: Skills Wallets Inspectors

That�s just the title of the 1200 new administrative staff the tories will hire to make sure to keep the poors down.

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:40

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1194330286730801152?s=19

Edit: didn't realise this was the same guy.

https://twitter.com/elashton/status/1194338663351672832?s=19

Fucksake

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:49

Wiggly Wayne DDS: Sep 11, 2010

the podcast covered local government and media purdah, but there's also the issue of campaigning by charities during election season: https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/pdf_file/intro-campaigning-charities-npc.pdf

it's effectively purdah as local authority funding comes with the catch of their rules applying to charities. the gov.uk version goes into examples rather than the funding focus from the commission: https://assets.publishing.service.g...rendums_new.pdf

In any publicity material (including printed material, media interviews, and websites) a charity may promote its views on issues which relate to its objects and activities. However the charity must steer clear of explicitly comparing its views (favourably or otherwise) with those of the political parties or candidates taking part in the election. For example, if a housing charity supports the building of 100,000 new homes, it can outline the housing policies of each party, including how many new homes each party is committed to building, but it must not explicitly call on people to vote for one party or another. The key point is that whilst charities can attempt to influence public opinion on a particular issue if it furthers or supports their objects, they must leave it to the electorate to make their own decisions about how to vote.
A charity may publish the views of candidates in local and national elections where these views relate to the charity�s purposes and publishing them will raise public interest and debate about the underlying issues. The charity must not encourage support for any particular parties or candidates.
Some charities publish a manifesto in order to publicise the issues which they campaign on, and in particular the changes they are calling for on behalf of their beneficiaries. Again, this is acceptable where the charity is trying to persuade the political parties to adopt the policies which it advocates, or is simply trying to raise the public profile of those issues. It is not acceptable where the intention is to influence voter behaviour. If a charity is approached by a political party for permission to refer to the charity in their manifesto, whether in relation to a political party or generally, the charity must refuse the request. This is because of the risk that the charity will be appearing to endorse the political party
itself.
Local authorities must not, under the Local Government Act 1986, give publicity to any political party or publish any material that appears to be designed to influence public support for or against a political party. These restrictions extend to any organisations, including charities, which receive local authority funding. Charities which act in this way may therefore breach both charity and local government legal requirements, and may put their funding at risk. (The definition of published material includes all or part of any text in any printed of electronic media, and TV and radio broadcasts, including interviews.)

Bundy posted:

lol

e:

"my party [fib dems] was now every bit as much of a force to be reckoned with as his, if not more. [which is why I've decided to stand down despite being able to win here]"

ee:

*farrrrt*

for context labour grabbed that seat with a 187 majority, it's one of the most contested seats in england

# ? Nov 12, 2019 20:54