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Sobble Squad checkin in, im Very Sad and please do not yell at me
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Okay so I actually watched this video and a couple things: 1) I forgot how much I dislike his voice, 2) I didn't notice any of that terrible stuff that person was talking about so I guess 3) I'm pumped for this game, it looks great. Oh and 4) I was all set for fire bunny before but seeing the grass monkey dude in action, he's adorable as heck and I'm picking him (or her).
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Nov 14, 2019 04:13
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I don't like the soccer bunny but the other two are okay, there's too many cool Pokemon to waste one of my six slots on a starter though.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:13
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yeah i'm gonna chime in to say that comparing everything to breath of the wild is kind of stupid. it's a good as hell game and i doubt anyone would deny that, but holding it up as like some pinnacle that literally every other game on the system has to somehow match or exceed in every aspect is kind of insane when considering even like the most basic thing of 'nintendo directly developed it specifically for the switch and had as much time as they needed to make sure it ran as perfectly as they could get it'. it's not, like, some sort of mystery that maybe the direct developers of the actual console making a launch title would know exactly where to cut corners and bluff things so all the rest looks good as hell in time for the launch of the thing itself. and i would hope that eventually people would get it in their heads that gamefreak has literally no say in getting any sort of extra time to develop something if they feel they need it, lmao. pokemon is a media franchise that prints money for nintendo. they're not going to delay the airing of an anime just because a game is deemed to need a little more work and on the flipside they won't be delaying a game because they're not going to be pushing back the long-planned airing date of the anime. this isn't even bringing poo poo like the card game or movies into the equation. it's like this extra boot to the face for gamefreak for people to sneer at them for not somehow perfectly living up to some nebulous and ill-defined standard set by their publishers who actively made the system and don't have a publisher of their own breathing down their neck while setting them on a deathmarch to get it done or else
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Nov 14, 2019 04:14
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I think the starters suffer from really loving boring poses. Imagine how lovely Greninja would look in Intellion’s pose. Now imagine how much cooler Intellion would look in Gren’s classic ninja pose. I may sketch it out on my tablet to show what I mean, how important poses are in bringing cartoons to life (this is also why the early sprites had so much personality), but effort
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Nov 14, 2019 04:14
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sexpig by night posted:have fun with Josh! He looks like a nice boy! I will!
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Nov 14, 2019 04:17
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extra row of teeth posted:I think the starters suffer from really loving boring poses. Imagine how lovely Greninja would look in Intellion’s pose. Now imagine how much cooler Intellion would look in Gren’s classic ninja pose. Yeah that's why Rillaboom didn't click with me initially. Had his idle animation had him beating on the drum it would have looked a lot better
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Nov 14, 2019 04:17
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Johnny Joestar posted:yeah i'm gonna chime in to say that comparing everything to breath of the wild is kind of stupid. it's a good as hell game and i doubt anyone would deny that, Must be nice, being able to completely avoid discussion of Breath of the Wild.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:18
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I agree that the outcry surrounding this game is overblown. However, I am also quite irritated by the overdramatic backlash that I see to that outcry, particularly in this thread. All of the "Well it's STUPID to care about graphics and stuff as long as I get to make pokemon friends!" is ridiculous. It's okay to like something and have standards for it. I like pokemon. I'll probably like this one. I'm frustrated by how little improvement or progress is made between installments. Comparing it to Breath of the Wild is absurd, but I did expect it to look better than it does. The designs of the regular pokemon are all quite nice, and I really like the Galar forms, but I find the legendaries to be a bit offputting.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:18
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Johnny Joestar posted:yeah i'm gonna chime in to say that comparing everything to breath of the wild is kind of stupid. it's a good as hell game and i doubt anyone would deny that, but holding it up as like some pinnacle that literally every other game on the system has to somehow match or exceed in every aspect is kind of insane when considering even like the most basic thing of 'nintendo directly developed it specifically for the switch and had as much time as they needed to make sure it ran as perfectly as they could get it'. Its a fair comparison that one development team with a certain amount of monetary resources could be matched by another development team with similar monetary resources. I mean, BOTW sold around 16 mil copies, which is generally what the pokemon games sell for. It's not like gamefreak are some set of indie developers or something, I don't know why people are so willing to give them excuses.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:20
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King of Solomon posted:Must be nice, being able to completely avoid discussion of Breath of the Wild. in my defense i kind of just actively avoid the bickering of zelda fans because it's about as pointless as people arguing which pokemon generations are best or which starters are best or etc. etc. etc.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:20
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Ariong posted:I agree that the outcry surrounding this game is overblown. However, I am also quite irritated by the overdramatic backlash that I see to that outcry, particularly in this thread. All of the "Well it's STUPID to care about graphics and stuff as long as I get to make pokemon friends!" is ridiculous. It's okay to like something and have standards for it. I like pokemon. I'll probably like this one. I'm frustrated by how little improvement or progress is made between installments. Comparing it to Breath of the Wild is absurd, but I did expect it to look better than it does. The designs of the regular pokemon are all quite nice, and I really like the Galar forms, but I find the legendaries to be a bit offputting. I don't recall liking a single legendary design in the history of the series, but that sheep pokemon looks incredibly cute and that's really what I want out of the graphics.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:21
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Ariong posted:I agree that the outcry surrounding this game is overblown. However, I am also quite irritated by the overdramatic backlash that I see to that outcry, particularly in this thread. All of the "Well it's STUPID to care about graphics and stuff as long as I get to make pokemon friends!" is ridiculous. It's okay to like something and have standards for it. I like pokemon. I'll probably like this one. I'm frustrated by how little improvement or progress is made between installments. Comparing it to Breath of the Wild is absurd, but I did expect it to look better than it does. The designs of the regular pokemon are all quite nice, and I really like the Galar forms, but I find the legendaries to be a bit offputting. I agree with all of this except I like the legendaries. Mostly. I can’t stop laughing at sword dog
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Nov 14, 2019 04:21
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I like Sobble because I get to watch my pokemon graduate from sobbing nerdling to anxiety-riddled yet dead inside grad student to know it all smug professor Scorbunny is a lame jock and whichever the grass one is is probably the bearded drug dealer who is way too into neopaganism and may be a nazi it all makes sense once you realize that every piece of Japanese media is about high school
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Nov 14, 2019 04:21
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except Godzilla
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Nov 14, 2019 04:22
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Ariong posted:I agree that the outcry surrounding this game is overblown. However, I am also quite irritated by the overdramatic backlash that I see to that outcry, particularly in this thread. All of the "Well it's STUPID to care about graphics and stuff as long as I get to make pokemon friends!" is ridiculous. It's okay to like something and have standards for it. I like pokemon. I'll probably like this one. I'm frustrated by how little improvement or progress is made between installments. Comparing it to Breath of the Wild is absurd, but I did expect it to look better than it does. The designs of the regular pokemon are all quite nice, and I really like the Galar forms, but I find the legendaries to be a bit offputting. Yeah I'm in pretty much the same place. All the leaks and reviews have convinced me that it's almost certainly going to be a good game, just one that could have been even better had they had more time to make it
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Nov 14, 2019 04:22
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TBH the part that most worries me is the level curve. It's been rather annoying how easy it is to overlevel everything in more recent games.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:23
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I've come to terms with the limited nature of the open world and am fine with it pop in is annoying and sucks but I figure if I can still rank Subnautica as one of my top 3 games of the last decade I can probably live with it here too
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Nov 14, 2019 04:23
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Radio Free Kobold posted:i agree wholeheartedly. it's especially a thing with big AAA games (ubisoft On the other hand, make games 200+ hours long so people can play as much as they want/are able to? Like, I have very little free time anymore, but I still really enjoy lengthy JRPGs because I can get months of enjoyment from them chipping away a little bit at a time. I'd hate to not be able to do that because companies started making games shorter to please people who feel like they have to be able to beat a game in a month or less from release.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:24
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) that they're these big sprawling things with so much to do and so much to see and 100+ hours of content and yadda yadda yadda. but realistically, i have perhaps four hours a day to play the vidya (many people have less); time, loving time is the biggest constraint. if a game has like, 200 hours of content and i have maybe 25 hours a week, that means that one, singular game is basically a month-long project and i'm going to get bored of it long before then. poo poo, if i had a dollar for every half-completed game in my steam library. so if i don't get my money's worth that's fine but if a game wastes my time, nuh uh, gently caress off. it's the same reason i played through Moon once and never touched US/UM; i just couldn't bring myself to do it again because there's such a slog getting through the cutscenes and the first island and all that crap.
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sexpig by night posted:I'm actually gonna try for a response that isn't 'eat my butt' here. I see people constantly say BotW as if that's the stick we're measuring against...why? Like...they're two entirely different kinds of games, you need maximum visibility because BotW is all about terrain navigation and for a large chunk of it avoiding too much direct combat. Pokemon is...not it? I just have no idea why people compare the two other than 'they're both on switch'. Breath of the Wild was a game in an extremely stagnant franchise that actually rethought and revamped how it worked as a game and was a massive success for it. Pokemon...did not do this. It will still be a massive success but that is because it's name is Pokemon and if it's name were, for instance, Little Town Hero there would likely be a different outcome.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:24
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gonna say it: BotW? fun for a bit, yeah. Best zelda? no. Top 5 zelda? still probably no.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:26
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Blaziken386 posted:gonna say it: BotW? fun for a bit, yeah. Best zelda? no. Top 5 zelda? still probably no. The best Zeldas were 30 years ago I'm taking what I can get here E: My god this is an extremely cursed post
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Nov 14, 2019 04:27
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TheKingofSprings posted:The best Zeldas were 30 years ago I'm taking what I can get here ok boomer
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Nov 14, 2019 04:28
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The thing is, for all the talk about the dex cull, all the talk about improving the graphics and the balance, all the promises of a game more aimed at older players, everything instead seems lined up to disappoint and be worse than S/M and X/Y. But that is my error, I expected to not be disappointed.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:28
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Borsche69 posted:Its a fair comparison that one development team with a certain amount of monetary resources could be matched by another development team with similar monetary resources. I mean, BOTW sold around 16 mil copies, which is generally what the pokemon games sell for. It's not like gamefreak are some set of indie developers or something, I don't know why people are so willing to give them excuses. nintendo literally owns the money that gets fed to gamefreak for development of the pokemon games and, along with the pokemon company which gamefreak doesn't even fully own, gives them an ironclad work schedule that doesn't allow for any sort of room to budge that nintendo themselves have because they're one of the most powerful videogame companies in the world and gamefreak struggles to get people to give a poo poo about something that isn't labeled pokemon it's kind of my point
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Nov 14, 2019 04:31
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Blaziken386 posted:gonna say it: BotW? fun for a bit, yeah. Best zelda? no. Top 5 zelda? still probably no. Really? What are the top 5 Zelda's then?
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Nov 14, 2019 04:32
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qnqnx posted:The thing is, for all the talk about the dex cull, all the talk about improving the graphics and the balance, all the promises of a game more aimed at older players, everything instead seems lined up to disappoint and be worse than S/M and X/Y. Did they promise a game aimed at older players now too??
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Nov 14, 2019 04:33
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Blaziken386 posted:gonna say it: BotW? fun for a bit, yeah. Best zelda? no. Top 5 zelda? still probably no. It’s one of the best games ever made. Grookey Gang E: is Eviolite in the game?
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Nov 14, 2019 04:35
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BotW is #2 after Minish Cap
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Nov 14, 2019 04:35
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Did they promise a game aimed at older players now too?? They promised a game for old fans of the traditional series while LGPE was in development. AKA please don’t panic; the GO mechanics won’t be in the next one.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:35
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Johnny Joestar posted:nintendo literally owns the money that gets fed to gamefreak for development of the pokemon games and, along with the pokemon company which gamefreak doesn't even fully own, gives them an ironclad work schedule that doesn't allow for any sort of room to budge that nintendo themselves have because they're one of the most powerful videogame companies in the world and gamefreak struggles to get people to give a poo poo about something that isn't labeled pokemon probably a good idea not to reward this behaviour by buying the game, then
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Nov 14, 2019 04:36
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Game story question are the elite four really just the gym leaders but with stronger mons?
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Nov 14, 2019 04:37
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Saagonsa posted:Yeah I'm in pretty much the same place. All the leaks and reviews have convinced me that it's almost certainly going to be a good game, just one that could have been even better had they had more time to make it it's probably not much different than X/Y. Game Freak is probably not allowed to really make the games hard anymore. Nintendo wants them to appeal to casual players as broadly as possible. speaking of X/Y and the level curve, I was intending on using a Gallade in my X playthough, but it took forever to find a Dawn Stone, so that by the time I could put it in my party, it was about level 30, and my whole team was in their early 50's, right before the 6th gym. Today I managed to get Gallade caught up...at the 8th Gym, with my team at 66/67, using Gallade for basically 75% of all battles. X/Y's leveling and the EXP Share are really loving stupid.
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Nov 14, 2019 04:38
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I think Mareep is the better sheep and if I could trade wooloo for it I would Wooloo is cute, but it doesn't feel like a pokemon to me. It looks like someones niece or nephew drew a 'cloud' sheep and it accidentally got snuck into approved designs. I like mareeps tail and odd coloring (and Ampharos is one of my favorite mons despite not being a sheep at all anymore) If they were both in Galar I'd be fine... but now that I must pick favorites I'm sorry Wooloo
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Nov 14, 2019 04:38
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ungulateman posted:probably a good idea not to reward this behaviour by buying the game, then i'm not even talking about buying pokemon here, it's straight up just pointing out why comparing the two companies is dumb as hell
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Nov 14, 2019 04:39
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Blaziken386 posted:that would mean that kids wouldn't be able to power level if they wanted, and it would be really easy to break over your knee (ie: have a level 1 pokemon with you to bring down the level) I don't think anybody wants to make the games harder for kids. Pokemon blue wasn't hard when you were 10 years old, it's not like it's ever been a thing, it's more that the people who have successfully cultivated into lifelong consumers of their brand have digested so much of it by now they could handle an option to make the games more challenging by essentially only modifying the variables of what pokemon NPC trainers have and at what level.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I think Mareep is the better sheep and if I could trade wooloo for it I would hard agree, ampharos is boss as heck
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Nov 14, 2019 04:40
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Spatula City posted:it's probably not much different than X/Y. Game Freak is probably not allowed to really make the games hard anymore. Nintendo wants them to appeal to casual players as broadly as possible. Why did you need the Dawn Stone before putting it in your party?
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Nov 14, 2019 04:40
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Khanstant posted:I don't think anybody wants to make the games harder for kids. Pokemon blue wasn't hard when you were 10 years old, it's not like it's ever been a thing, it's more that the people who have successfully cultivated into lifelong consumers of their brand have digested so much of it by now they could handle an option to make the games more challenging by essentially only modifying the variables of what pokemon NPC trainers have and at what level. Yellow was actually pretty loving hard IIRC.
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Pylons posted:Yellow was actually pretty loving hard IIRC. Yellow was hard because it was poorly designed. You had to carry that fat mouse all the way to the end, and couldn't even evolve it.
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