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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Fenrir posted:

Did any of your stuff survive after your cat fired his laser?

e:


fuuuuuuuck I want that

Out of everything in the photo I only still have the cat and the amp, so kind of

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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



What is the difference between hard rock and metal? I know there are a billion types of metal music but it just strikes me as weird that metal is like porn in that I can't define it but I know it when I hear it.

Guns n Roses weren't metal, were they? They would just be hard rock?

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Nov 15, 2019

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

The line is fuzzy because genres are hard. Guns 'N Roses are not metal, imo, but Iron Maiden absolutely are. But then you get weird cases like how Def Leppard started out as a metal band not unlike Maiden, but then moved to arena rock and I can't really tell you what changed. :shrug:

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





If my dad likes it, it’s hard rock. if my dad hates it, it’s metal.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


It's something about the riffs and drumming.

You generally have more chuggy or aggressive riffs in metal, where hard rock tends more towards melodic. But especially hard rock and oldschool heavy metal are very close.

Lemmy famously insisted that Motörhead played rock'n'roll, but everyone else classified them as heavy metal or speed metal.

Tremolo picking can be a good indicator, since basically no one plays surf rock anymore ;)

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Nov 15, 2019

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
satan

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Ghost's a yacht rock band. :colbert:

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat

Came to post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P1gx8dFgew

But the previous youtube video I had in my browser history has been removed for "hate speech"

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
here's some good death metal for the weekend that I don't think I've posted before

https://innumerableforms.bandcamp.com/album/punishment-in-flesh

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Guns N Roses were just mean Aerosmith.

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Does the Metal Gear Rising soundtrack count as metal and if so what else sounds like it

0 rows returned
Apr 9, 2007

Yeah it's metal. I'd almost describe it as industrial metal but it has a lot of different flavors mixed in.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
I just listened to it and it has a lot of electronic influences but I can sort of see where you get some metal out of it.

You might be into Fear Factory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Q7yaDqLqs

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Fenrir posted:


fuuuuuuuck I want that

Same I was going to get the new Respawn Star Wars game but it looks kinda bad based on reviews so I think I'll order the longsleeve instead.

RE: current page topics, MGSR soundtrack is so stupid good and is still one of my most scrobbled albums

Friday releases on my radar:
Abigail Williams, atmo/meloblack
Despised Icon's new one is up on the big non-BC platforms, deathcore
Bolzer have a new EP on non-BC
Left Behind, sludge
SuidakrA, meloblack/melodeath band with a ton of backcatalog re-recording fan picked favorites
Ragnarok, bm
Abytheon, blackened doom

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Nazzadan posted:

Abigail Williams, atmo/meloblack
Bolzer have a new EP on non-BC
SuidakrA, meloblack/melodeath band with a ton of backcatalog re-recording fan picked favorites

3 "holy poo poo they're still around?" moments just now

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Henchman of Santa posted:

Guns N Roses were just mean Aerosmith.

I never connected these dots but you're 100% right

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Oh forgot this one, my buddy's noise rock/sludge band released their second EP today and it's very good
Chat Pile

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I have some death metal for the weekend

https://shadu-nar-mattaru.bandcamp.com/album/from-the-darkest-corridors

https://hibernation-release.bandcamp.com/album/filth-ouroboros

https://helterskelterproductions.bandcamp.com/album/reichenstein - apparently good old Vinnie Crowley is still doing stuff.

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


MrBling posted:

https://helterskelterproductions.bandcamp.com/album/reichenstein - apparently good old Vinnie Crowley is still doing stuff.

quote:

[...] let it be known that INFIDEL REICH does not endorse any political, religious, or racial agendas. “We are the voices of reason and truth,” they confidently declare. More pointedly, this band of metal veterans is the enemy of all extremist groups who are trying to take away “The People's” freedom of speech, expression, and self-defense.
ok cool. With that name I wasn't sure but this seems ok... continues reading...

quote:

Political correctness must be put to an end! Time has become to balance the scales, and that’s where Reichenstein confidently strides forward.
yikes. no thanks.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



you can always stop at ‘all extremist groups’ 100% confident that the other bit is coming sooner or later.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Advent Sorrow just imploded, turns out the frontman is a huge nazi and the rest of the band want nothing to do with it. Really unfortunate, they ruled hard.
Best part, he tried to deny any NS connections so someone posted his tattoo on the inside of his lip with 2 swastikas.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

COOL CORN posted:

3 "holy poo poo they're still around?" moments just now

:same: especially Suidakra, I can't even remember when I last saw or heard that name, probably close to 20 years ago

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
speaking of melodeath, I haven't seen a ton of that released this year

i did really enjoy Eye of the Enemy's Titan that came out a few weeks ago, anyone else got any other recs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHSuX2MFqzQ

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

kumba posted:

speaking of melodeath, I haven't seen a ton of that released this year

:blessed:

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



If we're talking about video game OSTs, I haven't listened to metal in years but Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines got me interested in this band called Tiamat. This is the song that was playing in one of the game's clubs. If anybody here has any albums of theirs to recommend, I'd appreciate it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIg5lrbEwU

I tend to like "Gothic" music these days, like Dark Wave Ethereal Wave, etc..Not really into heavy stuff like I used to be but I guess I just like that more somber, depressed sound even metalized.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy

:colbert:

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Siivola posted:

The line is fuzzy because genres are hard. Guns 'N Roses are not metal, imo, but Iron Maiden absolutely are. But then you get weird cases like how Def Leppard started out as a metal band not unlike Maiden, but then moved to arena rock and I can't really tell you what changed. :shrug:

I feel like the line has moved over the last 30 years as metal became more extreme, and there is a lot of stuff we considered metal then that we wouldn't if it came out now.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



Wildhoney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWfEH-83rxo

A masterpiece.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Man, I had no idea Godflesh followed up their 2014 comeback with another amazing album.

I love getting pummeled by this stuff.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Siivola posted:

Ghost's a yacht rock band. :colbert:

Well The Exploited have annoyingly recheduled their Sunday gig until next May and as I've just had an email saying Ghost still have a few tickets left for London, I'll finally get to see Ghost.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

WTF, The Exploited are still around? O_o I used to listen to that poo poo in highschool.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Dante80 posted:

WTF, The Exploited are still around? O_o I used to listen to that poo poo in highschool.

Yeah, Wattie's still going (even after at least one heart attack & surgery).

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Fenrir posted:

I feel like the line has moved over the last 30 years as metal became more extreme, and there is a lot of stuff we considered metal then that we wouldn't if it came out now.

I dunno man, is this metal?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N4tXf3Ensw


Cause probably most people would say yes.also that video has 18 million views holy hell.

Edguy is a metal band but is this song metal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYYw96MEn2c

Probably not?maybe?

Airbourne is definitely not metal but this song feels pretty metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2IyX5LXGyg


This is definitely metal though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP2tcwKhOxk


In conclusion, metal is a genre of contrasts.

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

Cause probably most people would say yes.also that video has 18 million views holy hell.
That whole beauty-and-the-beast genre is surprisingly popular. Is it metal? Who knows? Is 80s glam rock considered metal? Probably not anymore?

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy
poo poo, I dunno. I mean, is this metal? Certainly seemed like it in '92.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq6V8uNnjZY

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

just listen to whatever you like, thats the real metal, here's a song that's metal as hell

https://youtu.be/P6fIfzK9U74

one of my greatest sadness is that I will never see the Road live :(

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Nazzadan posted:

Advent Sorrow just imploded, turns out the frontman is a huge nazi and the rest of the band want nothing to do with it. Really unfortunate, they ruled hard.
Best part, he tried to deny any NS connections so someone posted his tattoo on the inside of his lip with 2 swastikas.

Respect to the band for cutting ties even though starting over won't be easy

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Fenrir posted:

poo poo, I dunno. I mean, is this metal? Certainly seemed like it in '92.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq6V8uNnjZY

Yes

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

kumba posted:

speaking of melodeath, I haven't seen a ton of that released this year

i did really enjoy Eye of the Enemy's Titan that came out a few weeks ago, anyone else got any other recs?

There's been a bunch, actually.
Aephanemer - Prokopton has been mentioned here a few times, but it bears repeating because it's one of the best melodeath albums in years.
Vorna - Sateet palata saavat. This band used to be okay but not great, until they put out this new album and broke the loving bank. Kinda teeters between atmoblack and melodeath.
Insomnium - Heart Like a Grave is pretty obvious. Not quite the masterpiece Winter's Gate was, but still a great album.
Eternal Storm - Come the Tide is kinda like a more brutal Insomnium and very good at that.
Crepuscle - Heavenly Skies has a lame title, but the music is drat solid.

...and I feel like I'm forgetting stuff.

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Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Yeah like my man dimebag said, everyone rips on the glam metal guys but everyone is stealing their riffs it might have not been Dimebag

Hell, W.A.S.P. crosses that line many times, sometimes in the same song!, but still loving owns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_WSZN7c4Ak

The Maiden bit after the break is awesome.

my bony fealty posted:

just listen to whatever you like, thats the real metal, here's a song that's metal as hell

https://youtu.be/P6fIfzK9U74

one of my greatest sadness is that I will never see the Road live :(

As is this, manilla road is great.

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