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Shaocaholica posted:They need to be more repairable. It’s not like the backside is visible in 99.9999% of use cases and even then Apple could make a trap door look sexy. The backside of the iMac is hugely visible, I see them almost exclusively used on desks in open offices where you can see the entire device. Still dumb to get rid of that little door though.
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Fats posted:I'm disappointed that it no longer comes with the extension cord for the power brick.
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Costco Canada has Apple computers now, but only in 128/256GB SKUs. 
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Lazyhound posted:Costco Canada has Apple computers now, but only in 128/256GB SKUs. Costco US has way more options and SKUs on the website than they do in-store. Also their Mac discounts aren’t anything to write home about but their iOS/Watch deals tend to be pretty great if you don’t mind occasionally more limited selection.
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Left for vacation yesterday and my mid-2012 non-retina MBP started acting up, powering down when I took it off the charger, fully charged, to sleep in my bag. Powering it back on with AC power, the battery showed 0% charge, and was charging normally. The battery has been replaced and is reporting normal health with 63 cycles, and I've actually been able to run it normally on battery a couple of times, with it showing full charge after a reboot, so it is actually holding a charge. My Mac instincts said to reset the SMC, but this Mac doesn't seem to give any indication that was successful (left ctrl-option-shift+power for 10 seconds) and that hasn't helped. Any thoughts?
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Could also try a PRAM reset, also download Coconut Battery to see if proper voltage is being maintained by the power supply. Failing that, you could take it in to Apple to have them run diagnostics on the whole shebang, as their diagnostics can determine if your battery and AC adapter are working properly.
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Bob Morales posted:Has anyone ever bought from expercom? never used them before, but bought one of the 16" mbps thru them on release day for the ~$400 savings over buying direct from apple. it hasn't shipped yet, i'll post when it does. seems legit tho, they are a certified reseller and been around for a while
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FCKGW posted:The backside of the iMac is hugely visible, I see them almost exclusively used on desks in open offices where you can see the entire device. Are we talking about the RAM trapdoor, because that thing still exists on the 2019 27” iMac (it’s still far too difficult to do everything else to it, it’s criminal that you have to slice double sticky tape to get at the internal storage)
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I love the trapdoor, and wish it was on the 21”. I guess the difference sorta made sense when the 21” was dual core and the 27” quad. You probably wouldn’t be beefing up the RAM on a dual core machine the way you would/could with a quad core. But now it leaves the 6-core 21” out and nobody wants to spend Apple RAM money right off the bat if you can spend that money on a better machine and upgrade it later. Was the door an olive branch to Pro users? Like “fine, you babies want upgradeability and tinker friendliness? Well here, you can do the RAM nyeeeeh”
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Woof, there's an error in one of their statements. They say that the Touch ID is locked to the logic board without much explanation. If the logic board blows up, yes, you must get a new Touch ID, but the opposite is not true; you can replace the TouchID without changing for a new logic board.
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FCKGW posted:Adorama is doing $200 off 16” MBP default configs with code APINSIDER and still not charging sales tax on sales outside NY/NJ. These are down to $2,148 now https://www.adorama.com/acmvvl2lla.html?sdtid=13579948&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Was the door an olive branch to Pro users? Like “fine, you babies want upgradeability and tinker friendliness? Well here, you can do the RAM nyeeeeh” Actually, the truly “pro” iMac users get shafted: the iMac Pro has no door. If you are fine with slicing tape and handling very expensive lcd panels that break if you mishandle them, etc, it’s easy enough to upgrade the Pro’s RAM - inside, it uses standard full size DIMM sockets. So far as I can tell the likely reason for no door is just that it’s too difficult to introduce a door big enough (*) without profoundly changing the chassis design, which they probably didn’t want to do on the iMac Pro since it was by their own admission something of a rush job, a bone thrown to pro users who didn’t want to wait for the new tower and hadn’t seen a pro desktop Mac refresh since 2013. * the Xeon cpus used in the iMac pro have four memory channels, two on either side, so the cpu socket has to sit between two groups of dimm sockets. Even if they’d used sodimms the door would need to be huge.
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BobHoward posted:Actually, the truly “pro” iMac users get shafted: the iMac Pro has no door. If you are fine with slicing tape and handling very expensive lcd panels that break if you mishandle them, etc, it’s easy enough to upgrade the Pro’s RAM - inside, it uses standard full size DIMM sockets. Yeah but totally not impossible to just make a better chassis door or something else.
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BobHoward posted:Actually, the truly “pro” iMac users get shafted: the iMac Pro has no door. If you are fine with slicing tape and handling very expensive lcd panels that break if you mishandle them, etc, it’s easy enough to upgrade the Pro’s RAM - inside, it uses standard full size DIMM sockets. Definitely a rush job as they didn't consider that having an unsightly hatch probably wouldn't matter to pros who just wanted to be able to upgrade their own RAM; as long as it works and runs fast. More of that 'design over functionality' philosophy remaining that's only going to sting them later. It's also something of a delicate operation to remove the LCD even on a regular iMac; slicing through the VHB tape with what amounts to a tiny pizza wheel cutter isn't too complex, but when you lift the LCD assembly off the clamshell you have to be careful to detach two flat ribbon cables with delicate connectors before removing it for servicing, make a mistake and damage the connectors and you have to buy a new LCD display or logic board. And to replace the VHB strips you have to carefully peel off what's left of them without accidentally removing the LCD coating and apply 99-100% alcohol pads to clean off any adhesive residue. If you don't clean off the residue well, worst case scenario you could have an angry customer come back with a big cracked LCD assembly dangling like a broken drawbridge from the bottom metal lip of the iMac.
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I pulled the trigger on a 16". I went with the 2.3ghz 8-core, 32GB/ram, 1TB storage, and the 4GB 5500M. It won't ship for a while so I have time to make alterations. Any real reason to go up to 64GB, 2.4ghz, or the 8GB VRAM? All are pretty pricey upgrades in Canada.
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prom candy posted:I pulled the trigger on a 16". I went with the 2.3ghz 8-core, 32GB/ram, 1TB storage, and the 4GB 5500M. It won't ship for a while so I have time to make alterations. Any real reason to go up to 64GB, 2.4ghz, or the 8GB VRAM? All are pretty pricey upgrades in Canada.
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I must say I'd really prefer physical volume keys and not just Esc
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prom candy posted:I pulled the trigger on a 16". I went with the 2.3ghz 8-core, 32GB/ram, 1TB storage, and the 4GB 5500M. It won't ship for a while so I have time to make alterations. Any real reason to go up to 64GB, 2.4ghz, or the 8GB VRAM? All are pretty pricey upgrades in Canada. I have a similar question, but 16 vs. 32 ram. I've been doing fine with 16 on my 2016 15" (I'm limited more by graphics and CPU), but for mostly video editing + Adobe apps does 32 make sense? The $400 upcharge for 32 feels steep, but if I keep the computer for a few years I feel like I'll probably want it?
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Data Graham posted:I must say I'd really prefer physical volume keys and not just Esc We're making incremental progress. 2028.. 2029 max.
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I think I'd need 32GB to feel confident enough in future proofing the machine if I were a content creator.
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Data Graham posted:I must say I'd really prefer physical volume keys and not just Esc Create your own? I love my customized function keys on the home row.
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Gay Retard posted:Create your own? I love my customized function keys on the home row. I mean, great, but I don't want a soft button that discloses a slider that I have to look at in order to see what I'm doing. I want single-touch buttons for volume-up and volume-down (and mute). Can't get that with the customizable controls, unless I'm missing something. Ideally they'd be physical so I can locate them with my fingertips when I have to quickly ramp the volume up and down for the prevailing conditions or whatever. I know, we all want things Data Graham fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Data Graham posted:I mean, great, but I don't want a soft button that discloses a slider that I have to look at in order to see what I'm doing. I want single-touch buttons for volume-up and volume-down (and mute). Can't get that with the customizable controls, unless I'm missing something. Install Better Touch Tools. I have volume, screen brightness, and media players mapped to fn + Q/A/Z for volume, W/S/X for screen brightness, and E/D/C for keyboard illumination.
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Crazy idea: Touch Bar or Physical Function Keys selectable as BTO options. Obviously, the Touch Bar will be the default and the physicals a £50 extra.
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prom candy posted:They would sell 0 touch bars Lol this. Make the no touchbar 'Pro' version US$199 and people would pay for it.
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Fedule posted:Crazy idea: Touch Bar or Physical Function Keys selectable as BTO options. Obviously, the Touch Bar will be the default and the physicals a £50 extra. Didn't the addition of the Touch Bar increase the base price of all MacBooks that had it by like $100 or so? I'm toying with one now for the first time. I still need to look up tools and tricks about it, but preliminarily -- it sucks. I mean, having a progress slider for music/video is nice, but requiring an additional non-tactile input to control those things outside of their application is not. enojy fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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enojy posted:Didn't the addition of the Touch Bar increase the base price of all MacBooks that had it by like $100 or so? With GoldenChaos BTT installed, it's great for a quick glance at upcoming Reminders/Calendar Events/Notifications/Weather.
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https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1197141315064086530 So where's the pre-order page, Tim?  Holy poo poo, there they are! Brand new baby cheesegraters! Is this supposed to be like that scene in the Pacific Rim prologue of jaegers being built in the factories? This feels like the most transparent attitude towards a new product I've ever seen from Apple at least. Still scratching my head over the fact they didn't put in PCIe 4.0, but at least the next gen AMD cards that are 4.0 should run in it. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Binary Badger posted:https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1197141315064086530 Plus, building the Mac Pro is a testament to American ingenuity. :-/ It's not the loving Space Shuttle.
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Be Best
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Binary Badger posted:https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1197141315064086530 No Xeon chipsets support 4.0 yet, not until 2Q next year if we’re lucky.
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Bob Morales posted:Plus, building the Mac Pro is a testament to American ingenuity. Pfft that thing is full of 8086 class chips, amateur hour.
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kefkafloyd posted:No Xeon chipsets support 4.0 yet, not until 2Q next year if we’re lucky. Oh, okay. loving Intel still at 10 nano technology anyway.
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Binary Badger posted:Oh, okay. loving Intel still at 10 nano technology anyway. Intel 10nm is roughly the same generation as TSMC 7nm. The 'gate length' is just a marketing number at this point. Also, there is no Intel 10nm in any Apple product, so that's irrelevant.
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Bob Morales posted:Plus, building the Mac Pro is a testament to American ingenuity. I think he was referring to how Apple was able to teach Texans how to build anything technical.
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Binary Badger posted:If the logic board blows up, yes, you must get a new Touch ID, but the opposite is not true; you can replace the TouchID without changing for a new logic board. Are you certain? My TouchID sensor barfed and they replaced both.
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