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gh0stpinballa posted:oh poo poo thats pretty funny. wonder how many people got banned predicting a hillary win A whole loving shitload of them and it was hilarious 
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gh0stpinballa posted:oh poo poo thats pretty funny. wonder how many people got banned predicting a hillary win my only ban is from that
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OwlFancier posted:A whole loving shitload of them and it was hilarious gently caress you
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ftr I didn't support Clinton per-se, I just didn't expect her to lose against noted dumbshit Donald J. Trump I severely underestimated America's stupidity
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Tesseraction posted:ftr I didn't support Clinton per-se, I just didn't expect her to lose against noted dumbshit Donald J. Trump tbf i was convinced right until the end too, i knew she was incompetent but...wow anyway i am looking forward to all the mea culpas from the melt celebrities, twitter piss diamonds and guardian pundits now swinson has gone full tory brexit, which anyone with any sense saw coming a mile off
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Tesseraction posted:ftr I didn't support Clinton per-se, I just didn't expect her to lose against noted dumbshit Donald J. Trump Get ready to see it again.
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ThomasPaine posted:Yeah it really baffles me too. her and oberman and that panto woman whose name I forget in particular are the worst of them, but in addition to your david collier types who are just so obviously acting in sociopathically bad faith there are a troubling number folk on twitter who seem to fallen down the conspiratorial rabbit hole and genuinely believe the things they're saying and that corbyn secretly wants to actually commit genocide. I honestly do believe that more than a few of them - particularly the more vulnerable of them - are lying awake at night terrified of a labour victory despite the patent absurdity of it, and I just feel sorry for them because they're clearly just not particularly capable of meaningful critical thought and have had their genuinely well-intentioned aversion to racism weaponised people who couldn't give a gently caress about it or them. I also think there are several - weetman springs to mind - who are treating the whole thing as a bit of a fun PR game trying to launch a cosy columnist job for themselves, and more still some who nailed their colours to the mast early and are too proud to admit they got it wrong so are just doubling down over and over instead. I feel bad for her if that's the case, I know quite well that finding your place with a somewhat complicated background can be confusing. Still, most people manage to deal with it a little better.
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Maybe the cause itself is the more important identity because it validates her being a privileged shithead.
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rachel riley is a crass and ignorant racist, whether she got there herself or was radicalised into it by mentions men doesn't make her less of a crass and ignorant racist imo
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TomViolence posted:rachel riley is a crass and ignorant racist, whether she got there herself or was radicalised into it by mentions men doesn't make her less of a crass and ignorant racist imo  Also just seen her latest endeavour, jesus loving christ. e: Also blocked by her lol
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This tweet of hers is loving sending me https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR/status/1197330916198273024?s=19
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Took me a minute to remember that katie price and katie hopkins are not the same person.
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big scary monsters posted:Surprising that Rachel "I don't look like a typical Jew" Riley doesn't see any problem with that t-shirt. Their genuine, heartfelt position seems to be that because he was part of a left-wing challenge to the board of one of the UK anti-apartheid groups in he mid 80s, Corbyn participating in that protest was actually him demonstrating his racism and ‘nearly destroying the anti-apartheid movement’. Therefore the T-shirt is cool and morally righteous. It’s... fascinating, in its own way.
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Just realized that she whited out the name of that account while still posting all their details. What was that supposed to achieve?
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TomViolence posted:rachel riley is a crass and ignorant racist, whether she got there herself or was radicalised into it by mentions men doesn't make her less of a crass and ignorant racist imo
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Apraxin posted:Not gonna post it here coz I know the thread hates posting rando twitter lunatics just to get mad at them, but I went down the rabbit hole and found the person who made the shirt for her (and apparently one for Obermann too). Good lord this is some mad poo poo. What a time to be alive. I was trying to sleep but have had the chorus to the Suicide song Ghost Rider (if you don't know the song, it's good, sort of proto-post-punk meets early electronic music) stuck in my head. And yeah, it's a song about the Marvel character. It's totally dumb lyrically, ridiculously repetitive, and yet instead of sleeping my brain is just chanting "GHOST RIDER MOTORCYCLE HERO" & "AMERICA AMERICA IS KILLING ITS YOUTH" over & over. So now I'm just thinking about how albums that get panned at release & become well regarded later are great. (And the opposite is just as good. I will never forget both Kerrang & Metal Hammer fawning over Metallica's St Anger at release & as soon as normal people heard it they suddenly realised actually this loving awful. Except that I've since convinced myself that St Anger is ironically good but that's besides the point, you need distance to appreciate a record that bad and with lyrics that infantile)
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gh0stpinballa posted:oh poo poo thats pretty funny. wonder how many people got banned predicting a hillary win A major upside of Trump winning (what a sentence to type out, lmao) was watching all the loving twats in CSPAM who'd been spamming "SHOW US YOUR MAP 4HEAD" for months break down as the result became clear, and then get banned,
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Does anyone have any good articles arguing against the idea that Corbyn is useless as an opposition leader? I'm trying to delicately persuade a friend of Correct Opinion without being accused of being a mindless Corbynisya.
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gh0stpinballa posted:oh poo poo thats pretty funny. wonder how many people got banned predicting a hillary win You should have seen the avenatti thread
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Robot Mil posted:Does anyone have any good articles arguing against the idea that Corbyn is useless as an opposition leader? I'm trying to delicately persuade a friend of Correct Opinion without being accused of being a mindless Corbynisya. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Government_defeats_in_the_House_of_Commons_(1945%E2%80%93present)#May_(minority_government) Feel free to scroll up as well as down for context, of course. Also I know it's skwawkbox but apparently the yougov poll for the ITV debate showed corbyn doing very well among undecideds: https://skwawkbox.org/2019/11/20/the-crucial-poll-numbers-from-last-nights-debate-that-will-thrill-labour-supporters-and-terrify-tories/ OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Government_defeats_in_the_House_of_Commons_(1945%E2%80%93present)#May_(minority_government) Thanks for this! It's very frustrating, any questioning of the Corbyn dislike is a personal attack, any evidence about media bias means I'm accusing them of being a fool, any pointing out that criticism as a whole is unfairly biased means I'm saying they aren't allowed to criticise. I'm chipping away, doing my duty as an obnoxious UKMTer Edit: ok she went from I'll never vote Labour under Corbyn to I'm going to read the manifestos and decide, I'll take it. At least she's a 100% never Tories or Lib Dems so we can still be friends. Robot Mil fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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Robot Mil posted:
In my experience this is code for 'I'll still vote (piss) tory but now I'm embarrassed about it' I've gotten it from quite a few sensibles who think the lib dems won't coalition with tories because they have learned from last time, and really they're Labour but without the leave tendency and antisemitism you see
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Hello I am also labour without the leave tendency and antisemitism and so is basically everyone I've met from labour.
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Who knew that in the land of Jimmy Savile the local version of Qanon would actually be about how Corbyn is a secret racist?
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"Anything to the left or right of the 1997 manifesto is divisive politics" I scream, as the party unites overwhelmingly over socialism.
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Well, yes. I know that, my piss tory mates probably do too but they keep thinking one day they'll be rich cunts and want to landlord hard, or not pay for a tourist visa to take Little Olli and Hermionie skiing in the pyrenees. They just have enough self awareness to realise saying that makes them look bad while saying corbyn bad is more universally accepted.
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Robot Mil posted:Does anyone have any good articles arguing against the idea that Corbyn is useless as an opposition leader? I'm trying to delicately persuade a friend of Correct Opinion without being accused of being a mindless Corbynisya. No article, but he has managed to pull the entire political discourse leftwards and it won't be possible to bring it back to old lovely centrism any time soon. I would say no single politician has had such an impact on the UK aside from David Cameron of course.
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What I'm trying to say is I need to find new friends irl
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"I want a mondeo, not a trabant. I want a mondeo, not a trabant. I want a mondeo, not a trabant." Circles around my level head, as my body corrects for the shaking and swaying of a dilapidated pacer car on the East Coast Mainline.
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StarkingBarfish posted:In my experience this is code for 'I'll still vote (piss) tory but now I'm embarrassed about it' I've gotten it from quite a few sensibles who think the lib dems won't coalition with tories because they have learned from last time, and really they're Labour but without the leave tendency and antisemitism you see No I believe her about not voting Lib Dems but she now sees herself as politically homeless even though I think her political views are in line with Labour policies. Seems mainly to come down to the idea that he should have won an outright majority in 2017 and because he didn't he's useless, plus a reaction to over zealous twitter people jumping on her for expressing any criticism of Corbyn His Divine Shadow posted:No article, but he has managed to pull the entire political discourse leftwards and it won't be possible to bring it back to old lovely centrism any time soon.
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https://twitter.com/MikeH_PR/status/1197406858006401026?s=19
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