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Inzombiac posted:I've run a hundred bounties for the Rev Neutropics and they won't drop. I have everything else from that table. That's brutal, you hit like 99% by 37 runs.
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When playing on Switch I never got a single Eidolon Lens in dozens upon dozens of T5 bounties and hundreds of hours played. On PC I had 3 in no time, in a couple weeks of standing grind at MR 10-11, so not many missions. This is one of the downsides to the way DE do drop distributions. Over the millions of people playing it, 99% of folks will get one in less than 37 runs. But this also means that 1% will not, which for this user base is tens of thousands of people - a very large number of folks. Contrast with another grind-based game, Monster Hunter. The drop percentages for rares look just as bad or even worse for some very necessary items for gear progression: 3% drops for Rathalos Ruby for eg. But the game gives you the tools to improve your chances: cut off a tail, break the head, gold box investigations. You can bring up the probability of that to 33% without much effort. More importantly, you can use gameplay and skill to improve your drop chances. I wish DE would look into this beyond have loot frames and pure RNG. I don't know what that would look like in a game where enemies are chaff and the damage model is skewed as hard to power fantasy as it is, but the current purely random distributions have some very bad outliers. That Brozime(?) video on grinding the ephemera was a good example of someone landing up in the long tail of the distribution. I suspect they actually view their drop tables as content in that it forces longer engagement.
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 Re-rolled my baza riven a bit, I'm ready for Ivara prime when it comes out.
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v1ld posted:When playing on Switch I never got a single Eidolon Lens in dozens upon dozens of T5 bounties and hundreds of hours played. On PC I had 3 in no time, in a couple weeks of standing grind at MR 10-11, so not many missions. Eidolon lens blueprints are tradeable so they don't have nearly the same RNG screw factor as e.g. warframe parts. The random chances get evened out by being distributed over the whole player base, so if you don't want to test your luck grinding for that one rare drop you can grind something more consistent instead and then trade with a player who did get the drop.
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Nov 24, 2019 20:28
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Synthbuttrange posted:dont judge valkyr players well this just took the trans colors that I run on Valkyr to a whole new level
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Nov 24, 2019 20:45
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Screaming Idiot posted:Limbo is possibly the most complicated and useful utility warframe in the game, capable of locking down objectives and restoring energy to his allies. Lots of people play him badly, but that's like rallying against wrenches because you saw a guy trying to wipe his rear end with one. I find Limbo to be surprisingly aggressive, since your key passive and ability give you the ability to engage whenever the hell you want without any real worry, exceptions, well, excepted. (It works on thralls!) Cataclysm is not a nuke in the traditional sense, but slamming one down after Stasis is rolling is more or less an "everything dies as time stops" sort of move.
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Nov 24, 2019 20:47
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BMan posted:How do you manage this, I tried it yesterday with ivara but the stealth kill bonus kept resetting itself for seemingly no reason. I've just been running around as loki with as much duration as I can fit on it (don't have ivara yet). About 24s of invisibility then hide somewhere to recast after 3 or so kills. Haven't experienced any undue boost resetting? Only if I accidentally kill something before the stealth kill prompt.
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snagged the new archgun, and it is ok but the new movement system is actually so good Archwing feels good to play 
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Nov 24, 2019 21:34
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Victory Position posted:I find Limbo to be surprisingly aggressive, since your key passive and ability give you the ability to engage whenever the hell you want without any real worry, exceptions, well, excepted. (It works on thralls!) I've only ever used Limbo to afk mobile defense by putting a min-range bubble around the objective and hitting the timefreeze button. Sort of works for Excav too but you still have to go out and kill battery dudes. Oh yeah and at one point I used cataclysm to break boxes through walls while hunting all the rep pickups in those daily syndicate missions before I realized that was extremely dumb and tedious and stopped playing them.
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Nov 24, 2019 21:35
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Victory Position posted:I find Limbo to be surprisingly aggressive, since your key passive and ability give you the ability to engage whenever the hell you want without any real worry, exceptions, well, excepted. (It works on thralls!) Yeah, Limbo in the hands of even a moderately skilled player is as close to overpowered as you can get. On-demand invulnerability, area control and denial, wide-range DOTs, crowd control, and a goddamn tuxedo? Limbo is in a class of his own. Even the worst 'frames are viable and have some use. As stated earlier Revenant is nearly invincible and Inaros is equally so, and with Hunter Adrenaline Inaros is also surprisingly good at crowd control with his third ability. The fact that even our worst warframes are basically summarized as "they're unkillable but don't make you feel as hilariously overpowered as some others" shows that DE worked hard to keep things balanced by making everything viable.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:47
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Nov 24, 2019 23:20
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I now possess a Kuva Tonkor, and this may be my new favorite weapon. (It's very silly, with the blowing enemies all over creation.)
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Nov 24, 2019 23:31
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Awesome! posted:limbo sucks if i spawn into a mission alongside a limbo, i have no qualms about just aborting. can't be doing with that frame's irritating crap; I'd rather reload.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:48
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Inzombiac posted:I've run a hundred bounties for the Rev Neutropics and they won't drop. I have everything else from that table.  as someone who likes bounties and probably ran more than a hundred T5s alone i sure wish i could trade those. Awesome! posted:limbo sucks
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Nov 24, 2019 23:52
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Awesome! posted:limbo sucks find me a better medallion and cache finder.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:54
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Inzombiac posted:I've run a hundred bounties for the Rev Neutropics and they won't drop. I have everything else from that table. drat that's harsh, I just started doing Cetus bounties yesterday and got them on literally my first bounty (I now have Gara Neuroptics/Systems and Revenant Neuroptics). RoadCrewWorker posted:as someone who likes bounties and probably ran more than a hundred T5s alone i sure wish i could trade those. This game's format makes "grinding" feel a lot less painful. Just running missions over and over supplies you with a bunch of other nice things (like relics, which seem like an almost universally useful thing), and it's easy to just keep re-queuing.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:56
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Iretep posted:find me a better medallion and cache finder. a powerful niche
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Nov 24, 2019 23:59
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Pipski posted:if i spawn into a mission alongside a limbo, i have no qualms about just aborting. can't be doing with that frame's irritating crap; I'd rather reload. It's okay to be annoyed at bad Limbo players, but this attitude just hurts you. Like, even when the Limbo is actively trolling the group -- which definitely happens, we live in a hellworld where assholes prosper -- the worst it does is make a run take a few minutes longer. The Limbo hate, while not completely unwarranted, is a bit overblown. I don't play Limbo because I don't have a firm grasp of using him to his potential, but that's not a reflection of Limbo as a frame. I'm not saying you have to be a galaxy-brained true intellectual man of culture to master the subtle machinations of a warframe of class and sophistication, but the skill gate for him is a bit higher than Excaliber or Inaros. Used badly, Limbo can be a minor inconvenience at worst. Used well, Limbo can trivialize any encounter in nearly any sort of content.
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Nov 25, 2019 00:00
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Awesome! posted:a powerful niche for a platfarmer, one of them is.
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Screaming Idiot posted:
maybe, but i don't really want the encounters trivialised anyway.
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Ask not what Limbo can do for you, ask what Limbo can do to others. I just ranked up non-Prime Limbo from 0-30 running it as a knife platform for my new favorite thing in all the world: heavy attack knife slamming. Didn't even mod Limbo beyond a Vitality and the knife kept him alive on Sedna Disruption. The knife is life. E: Nothing against good Limbo players or the frame. It's just how opaque it can be to most players, me included. A good limbo is a great buddy to have in an excav arby for eg or a bunch of defensy tough things. E2: I did sit down and try to read up on Limbo's abilities again, but drat is that a complex frame. The Wiki page kept suggesting I should go read this article on the Rift before reading the wisdom it was about to impart to me. v1ld fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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 the shuffle looking like the dodge from Bloodborne is a very good touch
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Pipski posted:maybe, but i don't really want the encounters trivialised anyway. You're playing the wrong game then
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Iretep posted:find me a better medallion and cache finder. medallion and cache finding sucks But if you hate yourself and want to do it anyways, limbo really is the best. Screaming Idiot posted:Used badly, Limbo can be a minor inconvenience at worst. Played badly he can be a lot more than a minor inconvenience. For example, he can banish the demolishers in Disruption and then nobody else on the team will be able to stop them. Usually even pub limbos are fine though.
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this is going to sound weird, but Warframe reminds me of old school phantasy star online.
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Iretep posted:find me a better medallion and cache finder. How can he find medallions and caches?
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Turtlicious posted:this is going to sound weird, but Warframe reminds me of old school phantasy star online. You're not the first to say this. We even have mags!
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Hellioning posted:How can he find medallions and caches? When Limbo's 4 collapses (or you end it early), it breaks all destructable objects and loot containers in its aoe, even through walls. So to find medallions as Limbo you build for loot radar and max range. Double-tap 4 as you move through the level to destroy all the nearby destructibles, and then anything that still shows up on your loot radar after that is a cache or a medallion pickup.
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Huh. Good to know.
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Also useful for getting Argon etc. Limbo + Mesa is a power couple on Defence / Mobile Defence.
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Oh yeah that's the other big fun/abusive thing about Limbo: allies in the rift can still damage enemies with abilities, so you can make a Mesa or Excal just permanently invulnerable to everything but nullifiers while they kill everything with their exalted weapon.
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I keep joining Fortuna bounties where this wheel runs off the road and the mission becomes uncompletable. 3 times in a row I've joined a mission only to find I joined in the middle of a mission where the wheel thing went off the road. Does it do this if someone attacks it before it hits the trap? Seems kinda bugged.
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Ytlaya posted:I keep joining Fortuna bounties where this wheel runs off the road and the mission becomes uncompletable. 3 times in a row I've joined a mission only to find I joined in the middle of a mission where the wheel thing went off the road. game is bugged, don't do fortuna bounties right now
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https://i.imgur.com/kMbYwrN.mp4
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Coil drivers are drunk right now. They found out they're cooled with alcohol and are partaking in the supply for the "Rolling Restaurant"
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:When Limbo's 4 collapses (or you end it early), it breaks all destructable objects and loot containers in its aoe, even through walls. Having done quite a bit of medallion hunting, another way of using cataclysm is to start with your body in the real world, and then cast your 4. This instantly breaks all containers (and cameras) without having to desummon your cataclysm. I don't really like to use Limbo for sabotage cache hunting though, I much prefer to pinpoint the location using headphones.
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 im bummed it softlocks bounties but ive been watching those every time im out in the vallis and it always brings me joy, and part of me will miss them once DE gets back in their office and fixes stuff.
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They should only fix the ones from the bounties and leave the random ones driving in circles offroad.
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Phobophilia posted:Having done quite a bit of medallion hunting, another way of using cataclysm is to start with your body in the real world, and then cast your 4. This instantly breaks all containers (and cameras) without having to desummon your cataclysm. Wait what? You can hear hidden caches?
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