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Flikken posted:Name a Browns HC retread not named Bill that had any success!?? marty depending on how you define success
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Nov 24, 2019 23:10
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Benne posted:On the other hand, I don't know what to do with myself when we're almost in December and the Bills coach is nowhere near the hot seat. That might be a first since I started doing these threads.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:15
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I think Kitchens is probably not spicy hot at this point. He could be in trouble if he loses out, but I feel like he's gonna end up 7-9 possibly up to 9-7(assuming we win the should win games(Bengals x2) and the coinflip games(@Steelers, @Cardinals). Even with some of the woes this season, I can't see the Browns firing a coach who went 7-9 or better in his first year.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:17
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My gone list: Zac Taylor - I just don't see how they avoid going 0-16 at this rate. I feel that's an insta fire. Freddie Kitchens Pat Shurmur - The Giants look like trash. They need to completely clean house. Vic Fangio - The Broncos are going in the wrong direction and he hasn't even been a boost for the Defense. Completely clueless. Doug Marrone - Doug Marrone Ron Rivera - he's ran his course in Carolina Dan Quinn - lol Matt Patricia - Not exactly his fault that Stafford is dead, but I don't see what vision he brings to Detroit. Mike Zimmer - Will be the mystery late entrance to the sweepstakes when the Vikings are bounced out of the playoffs on WC weekend 'Mutually agreed to part ways bonus zone' Jason Garrett 50-50 Anthony Lynn - I'm not sure a playoff one and done last year will save him if the Chargers continue to free fall Matt Nagy - Will they blame Tittiekisser on him? Stay tuned.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:26
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a neat cape posted:marty Well poo poo, you went farther back than I intended.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:39
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Flikken posted:Well poo poo, you went farther back than I intended. Better than me, I was going to bring up Paul Brown before I noticed he really kinda sucked with the Bengals.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:41
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Grittybeard posted:Better than me, I was going to bring up Paul Brown before I noticed he really kinda sucked with the Bengals. Ok Art Modell fired coaches Paul Brown Marty Schottenheimer Bill Belicheck
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Nov 24, 2019 23:44
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LiquidFriend posted:My gone list: The Vikings aren't going to fire Zim if he makes it to the playoffs. If they were going to fire him for that they would've done it last year.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:44
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Paul Brown also depends on how you define success. He did successfully found a team out of spite, including using the exact same shade of orange as a troll.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:44
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LiquidFriend posted:
A 9-7 year, a 12-4 year (i dont think you know what one and done means), and one bad year derailed by injuries and a QB who's fallen off a cliff. Lynn isn't going anywhere
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Nov 24, 2019 23:45
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Lynn is safe since the Chargers won a playoff game last year. And even if they lost out, the Spanoses are cheap asses to the point where they don't dump coaches unless they have a year left on the deal. Chances are they pass the buck on this season to Rivers and probably give him the opportunity to rebuild the team after Philip leaves/maybe retires.
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Nov 24, 2019 23:47
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a neat cape posted:A 9-7 year, a 12-4 year (i dont think you know what one and done means), and one bad year derailed by injuries and a QB who's fallen off a cliff. E: Oh right, I think I mixed the Saturday night loss and the WildCard wins. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Nov 25, 2019 00:37
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Move Adam Gase's seat to frosty.
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Nov 25, 2019 01:35
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Jason Garrett is somehow going to survive this season and I'll have to see his face again. This will annoy me even though I don't want Dallas to be any good.
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Nov 25, 2019 01:41
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Grittybeard posted:Jason Garrett is somehow going to survive this season and I'll have to see his face again. This will annoy me even though I don't want Dallas to be any good. Garrett (or his agent) are already floating stories about how he’d love to coach the giants so even he must see the writing on the wall
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Nov 25, 2019 02:09
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Adun posted:Garrett (or his agent) are already floating stories about how he’d love to coach the giants so even he must see the writing on the wall The sucking wind motion I just made as I'm having trouble wishing that evil on even the Giants.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:10
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Fire Adam Gase. Bring in Jason Garrett.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:10
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Adun posted:Garrett (or his agent) are already floating stories about how he’d love to coach the giants so even he must see the writing on the wall or putting the thought in jerry's sildenafil addled brain that he'll go to ny and take all the PRECIOUS SECRETS of the cowboys with him
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Nov 25, 2019 02:15
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If the Giants fire Shurmur, Gettleman is still there, so they’ll hire someone like Ron Rivera, John Fox, or the corpse of Dan Reeves again and continue to let the offensive line be a series of turnstiles.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:16
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Adun posted:Garrett (or his agent) are already floating stories about how he’d love to coach the giants so even he must see the writing on the wall I don't think the Mara's are stupid enough to fall for that... FizFashizzle posted:or putting the thought in jerry's sildenafil addled brain that he'll go to ny and take all the PRECIOUS SECRETS of the cowboys with him Yeah, that makes much more sense.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:18
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Ron Rivera taking the Giants job is only going to happen if he doesn't want to go home to his wife for a year.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:21
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 Bye you stupid bitch. Every team you leave is immediately better off. Titan Up
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Nov 25, 2019 02:28
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thrilla in vanilla posted:Bye you stupid bitch. Every team you leave is immediately better off. Titan Up
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Nov 25, 2019 02:33
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thrilla in vanilla posted:
I was so excited, I thought they had just fired him 
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Nov 25, 2019 03:23
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Diva Cupcake posted:Syracuse went back to being one of the worst teams in college football and the Bills immediately hired Rex Ryan. I stand by what I said
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Nov 25, 2019 03:26
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Nov 25, 2019 04:00
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Grittybeard posted:Jason Garrett is somehow going to survive this season and I'll have to see his face again. This will annoy me even though I don't want Dallas to be any good. This is me, hard  Kalli posted:The sucking wind motion I just made as I'm having trouble wishing that evil on even the Giants. 
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Nov 25, 2019 04:07
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LiquidFriend posted:My gone list: Given how long Marvin Lewis held on, I think Zac Taylor gets another season, but if he sniffs the basement again next season, he'll be cut. Fangio I could go either way, but I wouldn't be shocked if Elway is fired first. Zimmer, no way. Unless they lose out the season, they're going to the playoffs, and are good enough to advance past WC weekend (especially if they play the eventual NFCE winner). Rest of the list I generally agree with. Also, if Jerry finally fires Garrett, does Dallas become the #1 choice for a HC, or does having to deal with Jerry kill a lot of the attractiveness of it? You don't have to do a team rebuild, and if you're even moderately better than Garrett there, you're probably going to have a great first season, and I can imagine that being very appealing to a new HC.
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Nov 25, 2019 04:39
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Shinji2015 posted:Fangio I could go either way, but I wouldn't be shocked if Elway is fired first. Who is going to fire Elway? Pat's dead and his kids are fighting each other for the team. John Elway basically owns the Broncos until the lawsuits are figured out.
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Nov 25, 2019 04:41
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I think hc of the Cowboys would be extremely attractive, Jerruh or not.
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Nov 25, 2019 04:44
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LabyaMynora posted:Who is going to fire Elway? Pat's dead and his kids are fighting each other for the team. That's true, I completely forgot about the Broncos' ownership situation.
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Nov 25, 2019 04:50
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Long as Jerry retains Dak and Amari Dallas would be THE coaching destination.
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Nov 25, 2019 05:04
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So because I've gotten extremely annoyed at the talking point that "You have to give a coach three years, you can't fire Patricia now!", here's a list of every coach since 2002 that started with two full losing seasons and wasn't fired: Dom Capers, Texans, 2002-2003: 9-23, 18-36 overall (Fired after 4th Season) Steve Mariucci, Lions, 2003-2004: 11-21, 15-28 overall (Fired during 3rd Season) Mike Nolan, 49ers 2005-2006: 11-21, 18-37 overall (Fired during 4th Season) Romeo Crennel, Browns, 2005-2006: 10-22, 24-30 overall (Fired after 4th Season) Rod Marinelli, Lions, 2006-2007: 10-22, 10-38 overall (Fired after 3rd Season) Dick Jauron, Bills, 2006-2007: 14-18, 24-33 overall (Fired during 4th Season) Steve Spagnuolo, Rams, 2009-2010: 8-24, 10-38 overall (Fired after 3rd Season) Jim Schwartz, Lions, 2009-2010: 8-24, 29-51 overall (Fired after 5th Season) Mike Shanahan, Redskins, 2010-2011: 11-21, 24-40 overall (fired after 4th Season) Chan Gailey, Bills, 2010-2011: 10-22, 16-32 overall (Fired after 3rd season) Pete Carroll, Seahawks, 2010-2011: 14-18 (1-1 Postseason), 98-56-1 overall (9-6 postseason) (Still coaching) Ron Rivera, Panthers, 2011-2012: 13-19, 76-62-1 overall (3-4 Postseason) (Still coaching) Jeff Fisher, Rams, 2012-2013: 14-17-1 (Fired during 5th Season) Dennis Allen, Raiders, 2012-2013: 8-24, 8-28 overall (Fired during 3rd season) Greg Schiano, Buccaneers, 2012-2013: 11-21, 19-45 overall (Fired after 4th Season) Gus Bradley, Jaguars, 2013-2014: 7-25, 15-49 overall (Fired after 4th Season) John Fox, Bears, 2015-2016: 9-23, 14-34 overall (Fired after 3rd Season) Hue Jackson, Browns, 2016-17: 1-31, 3-36-1 overall (Fired during 3rd Season) Kyle Shanahan, 49ers, 2017-2018: 10-22, 19-23 overall (Still coaching) wow would you look at that, two coaches with a winning record out of 19 (Plus Shanahan, to be completely fair). Can't fire Patricia guys, there's an 11-16% chance he might not be poo poo!!! e: there's a really depressing number of Lions coaches on this list.
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Nov 25, 2019 05:12
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Shinji2015 posted:Given how long Marvin Lewis held on, I think Zac Taylor gets another season, but if he sniffs the basement again next season, he'll be cut. Vikings will always be hoping Kirk Cousins doesn't have a meltdown type of performance. I was real back and forth on Taylor and the Bengals. First thought is no way you can return a guy after 0-16, but hell the Browns did (great example) and Mike Brown is probably too cheap to buy out Taylor. Now for replacing Jason Garrett. While giving Urban Meyer a blank check to gently caress on off with migraines after a couple of years would be amusing, I think replacing Garrett with Matt Rhule could be a great move.
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Nov 25, 2019 05:38
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LiquidFriend posted:Now for replacing Jason Garrett. While giving Urban Meyer a blank check to gently caress on off with migraines after a couple of years would be amusing, I think replacing Garrett with Matt Rhule could be a great move. I will always be skeptical of the chances of a hotshot college coach successfully making the leap to the pros. Coaching a bunch of 18-22 (and 26) year olds is an entirely different ballgame than coaching grown-rear end men
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Nov 25, 2019 05:40
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Acebuckeye13 posted:So because I've gotten extremely annoyed at the talking point that "You have to give a coach three years, you can't fire Patricia now!", here's a list of every coach since 2002 that started with two full losing seasons and wasn't fired: You really can't use Pete beating the defending SB winners at home with a 7-9 record in this anyway.... But Patricia is going to draft Tua in the 1st and get to four years, that's the move since he gets to punt on Stafford already and sell himself as a Future Guy.
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Nov 25, 2019 05:45
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SKULL.GIF posted:I will always be skeptical of the chances of a hotshot college coach successfully making the leap to the pros. Coaching a bunch of 18-22 (and 26) year olds is an entirely different ballgame than coaching grown-rear end men Well it’s not like there’s a wealth of great head coaching candidates out there in the nfl coordinator ranks. Is hiring a guy who has succeeded with lesser talent in the ncaa any worse than hiring the most recent qb coach that passed through Sean Mcvays line of site, or brought Andy Reid ribs? Moving from nfl coordinator to head coach is a pretty different ballgame too.
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Nov 25, 2019 05:46
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SKULL.GIF posted:I will always be skeptical of the chances of a hotshot college coach successfully making the leap to the pros. Coaching a bunch of 18-22 (and 26) year olds is an entirely different ballgame than coaching grown-rear end men I think a lot of the disciplinarian type coaches have trouble with that. I don't know enough about Matt Rhule to know his personality. He does have at least some NFL experience (2012 Giants assistant OL coach before he took the Temple job) so he probably knows the score at least a little bit?
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Nov 25, 2019 05:48
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I think dallas would be awful if you're a high energy blue chip head coaching prospect. the right fit is probably another garrett type guy that's fine getting trampled on by coordinators and jerry. like, the way it's going the next cowboys coach is going to be stuck with marinelli and richard, right? and probably kellen moore.
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Nov 25, 2019 05:57
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SKULL.GIF posted:I will always be skeptical of the chances of a hotshot college coach successfully making the leap to the pros. Coaching a bunch of 18-22 (and 26) year olds is an entirely different ballgame than coaching grown-rear end men Rhule has had good results in some pretty bad situations.
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