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Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

This is just a dig at the man's appearance.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Azza Bamboo posted:

This is just a dig at the man's appearance.

I mean whoever made it clearly knows their warhammers, so either looks just like that himself or is friends with a number of weirdbeards

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Just click on any of her tweets and see the poo poo on there and tell me that you could take that level of abuse just for a day. That's just a small proportion of what she's been getting every single day for going on forty years, and I've no idea how she copes with it.

I know that I would not be able to handle it. I've had that thought many times over the years. I have no idea how she copes with it either.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Look at the numbers on that, America's been having words.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

8/1 on 75% plus turnout, I'm almost tempted by that #youthQuake

Anyway take a look at this absolute gammon

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1198915481467416576

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013





Did you paste the wrong thing?

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
This is the common rhetorical device of inspiring humour through subverted expectations.

A play on the typical 'all middle aged white men are frothing fascists' opinion that is so common on da yoofs social medias.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Azza Bamboo posted:

This is just a dig at the man's appearance.
I read it as also being a dig at him embodying terrible libertarian gamer opinions when he was actually asking questions too.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

I like this Corbyn-as-low-effort-poster Twitter thing he's doing

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



I've never been in Games Workshop AMA

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


The bearded dork didn't even ask a question, he just screamed about being terrified of SOCIALISM!!! :byodood: then Fiona Bruce stuck on an actual question from someone else. The guy didn't even get as far as Just Asking Questions.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Ratjaculation posted:

I've never been in Games Workshop AMA

What's it like to know the touch of a woman?

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



freelop posted:

What's it like to know the touch of a woman?

i bang my sexy girlfriend on the daily

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Honestly being a libertarian it's a surprise he didn't ask about lowering the age of consent

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




RockyB posted:

This is the common rhetorical device of inspiring humour through subverted expectations.

A play on the typical 'all middle aged white men are frothing fascists' opinion that is so common on da yoofs social medias.

I don't get it. Gammon doesn't mean "overweight 50something animated about how poo poo the Tories are", it means a big pink faced bigot.

Apologies if I'm being thick :confused:

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Ms Adequate posted:

I mean tbh it sounds to me like Lord_Hambone is partway there and in a year from now they'll be posting about how they used to be a milquetoast who thought capitalism had good parts/was worth reforming but now they want to overthrow Chief Commissar McDonnell for being too soft on middle class.

I don't think a post capitalism world would necessarily be a hellish nightmare, but I just think capitalism correctly constrained is the optimal system. People still have concrete reasons to work hard and be more productive, but with a good fair safety net in place (I personally think UBI is a good method because it is very equal) people who can't or choose not to work can still survive with some comfort as artists or what have you.



OwlFancier posted:

Perhaps there are other motivators for why people might work other than to become a millionaire, perhaps there are motivators for people to work that does not result in them having a position of power over other people?

I agree with this absolutely, I even do so in the text you quoted.

You are absolutely correct to say that people are influenced by what they read and what ideas they are exposed to. A lack of education is always going to lead to problems with an electorate, and I certainly agree that all government school should be totally free (like any other utility). I think this thread always overestimates how much the average person actually cares about any given societal or political problem.

Spangly A posted:

It's not a coincidence that none of the world's biggest companies pay taxes, it is an inevitability. Multinationals, especially ones based on non-productive capital, are not reliant on any specific infrastructure to maintain profits. Many of them don't even make obvious (to the taxman) profits. Some simply don't make any money.

These are exactly the changes that need to be made. Corporations need to pay more.


Spangly A posted:

If you're willing to stop the blatantly unethical parasitism of our economy, then how far do you even have left until socialism? If we are to go that far, why not further? what good even exists here?

You got a better choice in your clothes, food, and entertainment before those things became proper commodities.

Socialised things can be very good, but you surely can tell the difference between medical care and t-shirts? I see nothing unethical about someone like a doctor with an extremely valuable specialized skill set having more income than others, but I do think it is unethical for everyone not to have access to medical care.

OwlFancier posted:

Posadism, in brief, is the idea that we need to destroy capitalism through the process of worldwide nuclear war, and also that aliens are real, have visited earth, and thus are by necessity, communists. And once we destroy capitalism with nuclear war the aliens will come and give us the space communism.

Finally something sensible out of this thread. Trotsky would be proud.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Azza Bamboo posted:

This is just a dig at the man's appearance.

yeah its entirely possible this guy plays warmachine

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

OwlFancier posted:

Posadism, in brief, is the idea that we need to destroy capitalism through the process of worldwide nuclear war, and also that aliens are real, have visited earth, and thus are by necessity, communists. And once we destroy capitalism with nuclear war the aliens will come and give us the space communism.

On this note, Chukka is currently giving a speech on the Lib Dems foreign policy.

Plank Sanction
Nov 3, 2016

Who invented the skip?
First day of the UCU strike! We're a bit isolated from other, more 'excitable' branches down here in Falmouth, but we had some good reactions from passers by and students.

Especially positive reactions from bus drivers!

Note, this is Exeter University's campus in Cornwall. Falmouth University itself is not striking.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013





Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? Also why people should necessarily "work hard"?

Also, everyone shut up and watch this.

https://twitter.com/UKDemockery/status/1198726817206722560

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Lord_Hambrose posted:

people who can't or choose not to work can still survive with some comfort as artists or what have you.

This will never be possible under capitalism. Capitalism is an ideology that demands maximum production by using maximum resources therefore it expects every human to be a worker. However the majority of work under capitalism is unfulfilling and causes misery and therefore people will not choose to work under capitalism if they can avoid it. Workers are only produced by coercion through the withholding of basic survival needs unless you sell your labour. Capitalism ensures that you cannot survive if you don't engage with the system. You can try to restrict that through regulation but capitalism will always push against that because it naturally trends towards its destructive tendencies. Capitalism will never sit back and say 'this is good enough' because as an ideology of greed it always demands more than you had before. To expect otherwise is naivety.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Lord_Hambrose posted:

People still have concrete reasons to work hard and be more productive, but with a good fair safety net in place (I personally think UBI is a good method because it is very equal) people who can't or choose not to work can still survive with some comfort as artists or what have you.

Creating art is also work you numpty

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Lord_Hambrose posted:

I don't think a post capitalism world would necessarily be a hellish nightmare, but I just think capitalism correctly constrained is the optimal system. People still have concrete reasons to work hard and be more productive, but with a good fair safety net in place (I personally think UBI is a good method because it is very equal) people who can't or choose not to work can still survive with some comfort as artists or what have you.

I'm not sure how you contain capitalism when at it's core it's only interested extracting surplus capital by exploiting the workers in increasingly "innovative"/cruel ways

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

We don't have time for this poo poo.

Excellent username/post combo.

But reforming individuals seems worthwhile, if only because walling all capitalists wastes a tremendous amount of expertise in management and finance that could be better employed in the service of socialism.

Plus killing the top 5% is awful PR.

Even Kruschev embraced treating capitalism as a mental health problem! :pseudo:

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
More left Twitter purging, Stefano Vozzs is gone.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Lord Hambrose has got some serious posts/av combo energy going though, you love to see it

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
https://twitter.com/bunnyrabble/status/1198494010492563456?s=19

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

Rarity posted:

Lord Hambrose has got some serious posts/av combo energy going though, you love to see it

Lord Hambrose doesn't understand the difference between a market in goods and services and capitalism.

Gaemblor
Jun 19, 2002

Sheldon Brown - Better than you think!

BizarroAzrael posted:

More left Twitter purging, Stefano Vozzs is gone.

He's back already - https://twitter.com/RebootedStef

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Depends what you mean by accelerationism, there's the social-libertarian "take all the brakes off and see what happens as everything speeds towards its final conclusion", there's the Frank Furedi "the way to create the material conditions for communist revolution is to be the kind of right wing libertarian poo poo that I secretly want to be anyway", there's the futurist "speed and technology and triumph" that just ends up enabling fascism, there's the Marxist "I support free trade over nationalism, but only because nationalism sucks poo poo and free trade hastens its replacement with the class divide" orthodoxy, there's the FALC automate everything and then we'll share the harvest ides, there's the xenofeminist "accelerate gender abolition by creating a hundred sexes and genders until the whole thing falls apart" acceleration, and there's the Nick Land "powerful brain worms on amphetamines" acceleration.

They're all forms of accelerationism.

I'd probably say of the ones I'm familiar with from that group I like the xenofeminist option best but that's because that is directly revolutionary. It is a direct attack on the existing power structure and its destruction leaves the innnate chaos of humanity to flourish in its absence.

Which I think is different from making capitalism more powerful in the hopes it will become less powerful and that what will replace it will not be another, bad system. I think there are major differences in the character of the action taken and in the likely outcomes afterwards. To the point I don't think I'd really describe it as accelerationist? It's really is just a direct attack on the bad thing.

Gender accelerationism would be, gently caress I dunno, instituting even more draconian gender rules in the hope that gender anarchists will appear to smash them. It'd make TERFs the accelerationists.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Apparently Gordon Henderson of Sittingbourne and Swale lost it on Victoria Derbyshire this morning

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


Every time this dude crops up I get weirded out because for a split second I think I'm looking at a picture of myself.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

They need to not take a neutral stance on this one.

I get maybe trying to keep it quiet though.

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Purple Prince posted:

Lord Hambrose doesn't understand the difference between a market in goods and services and capitalism.

:hmmyes:

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
The only time I went into a games workshop I was like 12 and when the staff member asked me what I liked the look of, he made fun of me when I said the Eldar looked cool. I still stand by my opinions and will not hear any others.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

gently caress, that hit me right in the gut. Why did it have to be Pidcock? :(

Facehammer
Mar 11, 2008

Lord_Hambrose posted:

I don't think a post capitalism world would necessarily be a hellish nightmare, but I just think capitalism correctly constrained is the optimal system. People still have concrete reasons to work hard and be more productive, but with a good fair safety net in place (I personally think UBI is a good method because it is very equal) people who can't or choose not to work can still survive with some comfort as artists or what have you.

I think there are plenty of reasons to work and improve things independent of the motive of profit/threat of destitution provided by capitalism. Most or all of those reasons have been around a lot longer than capitalism, and they'll still be there long after capitalism is gone.

One of my favourite examples is Jonas Salk, who invented the first polio vaccine and saw that it was rolled out as widely as possible. That required, to say the least, a substantial effort. Had he retained the intellectual property rights and pursued a profit, he would have become astoundingly wealthy. Yet instead, he made it all freely available.

Why did he do that, and why did he keep working knowing there would be no profit? To improve the lives of his fellow man; to meet an urgent need; to change the game for the better, forever.

The idea of the profit motive as the prime motivator of human action is an ideological assumption of neoliberal economic models, in which people are inherently motivated by rational self-interest. For better or worse, human beings in reality are driven to action by many things besides that, and often much more strongly too.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Does labour have any actual transpeople giving input at the top? Also why are there so many weird terfs getting their ear? Why are there so many weird terfs in general actually, can we not ban them or something?

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


I know this gets asked alot, but where's that twitter thread/link showing all the Tory BBC appointments?

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

We have to continue to understand what the sex is at birth, and that that is the basis on which lots of services continue to be provided.
We have to continue to provide services on the basis of whether the doctor saw a dick or not, and if there was ambiguity which of two arbitrary letters they put on the birth certificate. What are DSD and polysomies?

OwlFancier posted:

Gender accelerationism would be, gently caress I dunno, instituting even more draconian gender rules in the hope that gender anarchists will appear to smash them. It'd make TERFs the accelerationists.
I guess right wing gender accelerationism would be ramping up stupid poo poo like gender reveal parties until everybody just groans and goes back to the Reformation idea that gender is not really an idea applicable to infants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEMQLfPal4

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