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Often the reason there's no passenger rail during certain times on any given line is because the tracks are also used for freight rail and they have to reserve windows of time for the freight trains to run through.
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Boot and Rally posted:Isn’t there someone on here associated with the VTA? Can they explain why there is no northbound train after 9 pm on Friday or Saturday? Amtrak deal? Because if I need to travel those times, there's no metrolink ... only amtrak.
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Boot and Rally posted:Isn’t there someone on here associated with the VTA? Can they explain why there is no northbound train after 9 pm on Friday or Saturday? If you're talking about Lightrail, there should be?  If you're talking about Caltrain or whatever though then we have nothing to do with those. We do buses, the light rail, and some roadwork/traffic management/express lanes in the County.We're also in the process of changing our schedules for pretty much everything, which some genius decided should be on its own dedicated site linked nowhere on our regular home page.  You can find it here.FCKGW posted:There already is a train! It's the Metrolink we're talking about! Just make the darn train slightly better! Yeah they threw up a big spreadsheet of all the tolls for the expressway on both the part managed by OCTA and the part managed by Riverside. It's cool how we're "solving" traffic by uh, giving rich people a dedicated lane they can drive faster than the plebs in. Sydin fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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Maggot Soup posted:That's the gold line my friend Hell yeah, commuting on SacRT is a nightmare outside of downtown. The surrounding area is spotty enough as it is, but I was basically locked out of a ton of possible jobs by the hours. At this pace I'll be able to go back to no car after *checks notes* 10 more years.
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. SacRT is planning to add dual tracks from Hazel to Old Folsom in the, hopefully nearish future, to let the train go every 15 minutes instead of the 30 minute wait.
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HelloSailorSign posted:Wait hold on I passed over it as a, "your actual base is pretty lefty, get with the times politicians" and not a, "we can't work with them because they're all crazy." yeah I took it as "every democrat is a leftist so don't fall for the centerism/compromise thing and never vote for them" but i guess it works either way. the depth of such high art 
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See, the dabbing i took as reference to Loretta Sanchez, the Blue Dog who ran against Harris last election, and famously dabbed during the 2016 CA senate debate. But like, she was a long serving and powerful congress member, who would still comfortably be in office if she hadn’t resigned to run for senate. So is the unicorn a reference to dems like her being supposedly rare? Or was it saying that she wasn’t actually a moderate? And why her? She lost the election!
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You've put 999999999 times more thought into this than they did, they just want to sell shirts, like come on
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Sydin posted:If you're talking about Lightrail, there should be? Sorry, I should have said 10 PM. There isn't a train that leaves San Jose and goes past Tasman after 10 PM on Friday and Saturday. I Had not seen the new proposed lines. If they are anything like the last I assume they also will not cater to anyone who likes to have a drink on the weekends. Or see a hockey or soccer match.
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Yeah the off-peak hours for the lightrail aren't great. Operating the lightrail is VTA's highest expense and we have some of the lowest average ridership in the country among major metro areas, so pretty much any chance to cut corners is jumped on. Hell in the recent third party audit that was done on us one of the recommendations was for us to shutter lightrail entirely and repurpose the tracks for high speed bus. Berryessa station opening might force us to run more late hours trains if there's enough northbound demand. Maybe.
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Some day it would be cool if we could entirely rid ourselves of the idea that the metric for whether or not a transit system is good should never be "is it profitable enough to pay for itself" because uhhh, it's a public good, it's not all about fares, hell it should just be free to ride. Also that if ridership is bad sometimes that means the line needs more frequent trains and/or other improvements, not that it's just a bad idea and we should get rid of it.
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Sydin posted:Yeah the off-peak hours for the lightrail aren't great. Operating the lightrail is VTA's highest expense and we have some of the lowest average ridership in the country among major metro areas, so pretty much any chance to cut corners is jumped on. Hell in the recent third party audit that was done on us one of the recommendations was for us to shutter lightrail entirely and repurpose the tracks for high speed bus. Yeah, I know. The last time I took the train to the airport at 4 PM on a weekday there were only ten people. I was the only non-homeless person. Who was the train designed for? I live 30 seconds from a station and never see anyone on it. I tried taking the VTA to Mountain View to get the CalTrain to work and it missed the connection the first few times I tried so now I ride my bike direct to the local CalTrain station. The bike lanes are also terrible around here too. The whole drat county seems designed to minimize cost instead of cost per rider so they end up building something that costs nothing to operate because as soon as the ribbon is cut you can hang up a "closed" sign. Boot and Rally fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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Yeah that's a bummer. Without investment and build out the ridership will never be sustainable fee wise, the build out to that will never be sustainable fee wise, and ridership without a build out won't hit levels to be sustainable fee wise. You pretty much have to keep dumping money into the system until its momentum carries it forward. The whole time pundits will be screaming about what a waste of money it will be.
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White House readies California homelessness plan after ousting top officialquote:Rumors of the crackdown have generated concern among career officials at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, as well as national housing experts, who worry Trump is trying to exploit the issue for political gain while offering solutions that could make the problem worse. Yeah… that doesn't sound ominous at all.
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Leperflesh posted:Some day it would be cool if we could entirely rid ourselves of the idea that the metric for whether or not a transit system is good should never be "is it profitable enough to pay for itself" because uhhh, it's a public good, it's not all about fares, hell it should just be free to ride. Boot and Rally posted:Yeah, I know. The last time I took the train to the airport at 4 PM on a weekday there were only ten people. I was the only non-homeless person. Who was the train designed for? I live 30 seconds from a station and never see anyone on it. Light Rail ridership is in the toilet because it's slow as gently caress. It was originally supposed to be 100% elevated but to save cost it was instead built at grade. Down the main arterial road. Smack through the downtown of the 10th most populated city in the USA. I know, genius. As a result it is actually slightly faster to drive the full length of 87 in stop-and-go traffic than it is to take the LR the equivalent distance. It's pathetic. Hell when I bike to work I ride the fast portion of LR to the bike trail, then bike the remaining ~7 miles to my office, which has a LR stop right out front of it. I consistently make it there faster than the train I stepped off of does. There's not really a solution for this that doesn't involve gobs of money we don't have. 
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Boot and Rally posted:Yeah, I know. The last time I took the train to the airport at 4 PM on a weekday there were only ten people. I was the only non-homeless person. Who was the train designed for? I live 30 seconds from a station and never see anyone on it. I love this post
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Boot and Rally posted:Yeah, I know. The last time I took the train to the airport at 4 PM on a weekday there were only ten people. I was the only non-homeless person. Who was the train designed for? I live 30 seconds from a station and never see anyone on it. I'd ride Middlefield and just take the lane. I'm amazed that 27 years after I left Palo Alto, there still isn't a decent bike route thru there. Although the path from the MT View Caltrans to the Computer Science Museum is nice. I was there for the Amiga 30th reunion in 2015. Brompton on planes and trains.
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Sydin posted:Yeah they threw up a big spreadsheet of all the tolls for the expressway on both the part managed by OCTA and the part managed by Riverside. It's cool how we're "solving" traffic by uh, giving rich people a dedicated lane they can drive faster than the plebs in. Riverside is wrapping up their I-15 toll lane extension right now with the next phase eventually planned for San Bernardino county to continue it all the way to Victorville. Can’t wait so see what the OC to Victorville peak toll rates will look like. One positive is that 3+ carpools ride free.
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Family Values posted:White House readies California homelessness plan after ousting top official Oh cool they're actually going to just start rounding up random citizens into camps for the heinous crime of being outside. What could go wrong?
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Pomp posted:Hell yeah, commuting on SacRT is a nightmare outside of downtown. The surrounding area is spotty enough as it is, but I was basically locked out of a ton of possible jobs by the hours. At this pace I'll be able to go back to no car after *checks notes* 10 more years. Yeah, i dont know how some people can figure out all the various bus connections. I dream one day we can just do the right thing and buy up homes along heavy corridors and just put the tracks down. Such is a dream...
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Just helped my conservative parents move stuff into their future retirement house in Arizona So long boomers 
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FCKGW posted:Just helped my conservative parents move stuff into their future retirement house in Arizona 2 more Republican votes in the second most important swing state for the Presidency, and one that has a total coin flip Senate race. 😑
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Sydin posted:Light Rail ridership is in the toilet because it's slow as gently caress. It was originally supposed to be 100% elevated but to save cost it was instead built at grade. Down the main arterial road. Smack through the downtown of the 10th most populated city in the USA. I know, genius. As a result it is actually slightly faster to drive the full length of 87 in stop-and-go traffic than it is to take the LR the equivalent distance. It's pathetic. Hell when I bike to work I ride the fast portion of LR to the bike trail, then bike the remaining ~7 miles to my office, which has a LR stop right out front of it. I consistently make it there faster than the train I stepped off of does. Came to say this. I used to live half a block from a light rail stop and I stopped using it almost entirely not long after I moved because it was almost always faster to walk or bike where I wanted to go. Also, even setting aside public transit, why does almost every restaurant in San Jose shut down at like, 8pm?
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Came to say this. I used to live half a block from a light rail stop and I stopped using it almost entirely not long after I moved because it was almost always faster to walk or bike where I wanted to go. Much like nightlife in California is dead as you can't sell alcohol after 2 am, California is a state that sleeps early.
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Celexi posted:Much like nightlife in California is dead as you can't sell alcohol after 2 am, California is a state that sleeps early. Not being able to sell alcohol after 2am doesn't explain why things shut down 6 hours earlier in San Jose.
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Shear Modulus posted:everyone says san jose is a commuter town It pretty much is, at least south San Jose and the downtown area. The only reasons anybody commutes into San Jose proper is to work at Adobe or attend SJSU. Otherwise most people work in Milpitas or farther north in the bay, which means even if you only have to commute from south San Jose to Milpitas it sucks horribly. 
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Also, even setting aside public transit, why does almost every restaurant in San Jose shut down at like, 8pm? How is it that Fresno restaurants stay open later than San Jose? You should tell people in San Jose this and they should feel offended. (I still get annoyed that things close at 10 or 11 in Fresno on non-fridays but I'm on a night shift clock so, as that's the the closest place for me to drive in for restaurant food) So where in San Jose closes that early? It's not everywhere right?
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Goodpancakes posted:Yeah that's a bummer. Without investment and build out the ridership will never be sustainable fee wise, the build out to that will never be sustainable fee wise, and ridership without a build out won't hit levels to be sustainable fee wise. You pretty much have to keep dumping money into the system until its momentum carries it forward. The whole time pundits will be screaming about what a waste of money it will be. I note that the pundits never ask "When will the highway system pay for itself?" It's seen as a public good because you build it and things move from place to place.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I note that the pundits never ask "When will the highway system pay for itself?" It's seen as a public good because you build it and things move from place to place. Shut up, questions like this is how you get publicly funded toll roads
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Ranter posted:they're exaggerating. Not by much. Here's a shot of Japantown, closing time is 9pm for all but 2 of these (there's a 9:30 and one 10pm). Bars in downtown stay open later, but restaurants shut down stupid early.  Edit: I missed Minatao, they close at 8:30 Edit2: Omogari, which is Korean, is the best restaurant in Japantown Edit3: regardless, I don't think this has much of a relationship with no alcohol sales after 2am DeadlyMuffin fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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suburban restaurants close when their suburban family customers stop coming to eat. silicon valley is poo poo, thats why people that want good food and drinks past 9pm live in san francisco and oakland
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Ranter posted:suburban restaurants close when their suburban family customers stop coming to eat. silicon valley is poo poo, thats why people that want good food and drinks past 9pm live in san francisco and oakland If you think that area is suburbs than literally all of San Jose is suburbs. I really hope you have a lovely commute to the south bay.
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Ah, the exciting "people in the next town over are complete dipshit degenerates" part of the thread. Good stuff.
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The Glumslinger posted:Shut up, questions like this is how you get publicly funded toll roads Good. We can punish people for driving and then use the tolls to pay for buses and trains. 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Ah, the exciting "people in the next town over are complete dipshit degenerates" part of the thread. Good stuff. *bursts into thread, coughing wildfire smoke out of my sooty lungs* "BAKERSFIELD!!!!"
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I live in San Jose and I'll be the first to tell you it loving sucks compared to pretty much the entire rest of the Bay, barring SF I guess but I admit I'm just not a big city person in general so that's more my personal bias. Granted, may end up not mattering. My landlord is kicking us out next April so he can gut the entire place and remodel it (which FWIW needs to be done, the house is settling like crazy and the asbestos filled ceiling is starting to visibly crack in places) and I'm not even sure I'm going to be able to afford to live here anymore anyway. Looking at potential rents on Zillow is is... discouraging.
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Probably don't have the staff to keep a restaurant running late in San Jose. Who can afford to work in service industry there?
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