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So is there a new ToME thread?
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Nov 26, 2019 12:29
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For Wildfire I just used Alchemist. That class is ridiculous. Just fuckin lob bombs everywhere all game long and you'll have the unlock in no time.
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Nov 26, 2019 15:06
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Herbotron posted:Tangledeep expansion is out. I haven't had the chance to play it yet but it has dragons. Thank you Yes it is out now on Steam and GOG! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1156710/Tangledeep__Dawn_of_Dragons/ https://www.gog.com/game/tangledeep_dawn_of_dragons But also, we're part of the Black Friday / Fall / whatever sale that just launched, so if you don't have the base game or Legend of Shara, that's cheaper than ever now. https://store.steampowered.com/app/628770/Tangledeep/ Plus if you look at the base game page, we now have a perma-bundle with the base game + both DLCs + OST. You can even use the "complete bundle" feature to get extra discounts. This will not help pay my mortgage but it does get the game out to more people <3 If you had told me I'd still be working on Tangledeep into 2020, back in 2016, I would not have believed you. But it is almost time to start the next game and that's hype too.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:50
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Unimpressed posted:So is there a new ToME thread? I'm putting one together at the moment, mostly just copied from Magres's old thread. Will be up tomorrow I think.
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Nov 26, 2019 22:08
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I can never remember, which classes I've already played in Tome, that's what keeps me from going back to it
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Nov 26, 2019 23:22
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I love and hate ToME because I hate the pace of it on anything but Insane+, but I hate the late-game..well..insanity of Insane+
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Nov 26, 2019 23:48
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Razakai posted:I'm putting one together at the moment, mostly just copied from Magres's old thread. Will be up tomorrow I think. Cheers mate, no rush, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it. Thanks for all your work on ToME!
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Nov 27, 2019 00:21
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I take it I can't tame the chef hat frogs.
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Nov 27, 2019 01:16
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zirconmusic posted:Thank you Congrats! Definitely going to be picking it up this weekend. quote:But it is almost time to start the next game and that's hype too. Is it Dungeonmans 2? I hope it's Dungeonmans 2.
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Nov 27, 2019 01:35
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Nov 27, 2019 01:40
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Excelzior posted:I love and hate ToME because I hate the pace of it on anything but Insane+, but I hate the late-game..well..insanity of Insane+ My issue with TOME is that I inevitably get exhausted of parsing the walls of gear stats. Have a number of wins now, but would probably have twice as many if I didn’t stop looking closely at loot halfway through the prides. I’m ready for another playthrough now though! Unfortunately my account is borked after buying one of the expansions on steam instead of through the game’s website. Angry Diplomat posted:For Wildfire I just used Alchemist. That class is ridiculous. Just fuckin lob bombs everywhere all game long and you'll have the unlock in no time. Pretty sure alchemist only exists to unlock wildfire and get newbies their first win at this point. It’s weird how little depth there is to that class compared to just about anything else. Throw bombs, put points in stuff that makes bombs bigger, realize you forgot to level the golem for the past 20 levels, beat the game and get mashed by automathon.
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Nov 27, 2019 03:39
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Had a really promising Brawler on Nightmare going. Was doing the prides, wasn't too rough, go into a vault, open a door and see a pack of multi-hued wyrms, and fatfinger a hotkey and instantly die.  Soooo frustrated at my own mistake right now.
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Nov 27, 2019 08:48
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How is Robothorium? It's on sale for a dollar over at Fanatical and I have it on my wishlist which means I must have heard about it here...
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Nov 27, 2019 12:20
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More on ToME; the freezy spiderbot chain of technomancer is kinda silly. The spiders leap toward any enemies they can see and have a good chance of freezing em to the ground.. So you just drop one at any blind corner you come upon. If it jumps you just fill the room with spiders and aoes. If anything does managed to unroot itself and make it around the corner you just knock it back into the spider gangbang with mudslide or whater. Strong but very methodical. Often never see your enemies.
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Nov 27, 2019 16:30
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Fruits of the sea posted:I’m ready for another playthrough now though! Unfortunately my account is borked after buying one of the expansions on steam instead of through the game’s website. What do you mean with this? I sorta had a problem when i bought the latest expansion on steam a week or so ago, then checked my DLC page on the website and had -20 voratun coins listed because it re-listed all the steam games and DLC as bought for some reason. It fixed itself like an hour later though. Speaking of bugs though, it's been a while since i played but, uh...  This doesn't seem right. Note i'm an Oozemancer, why is this dude letting me learn magic? edit: maybe this new patch caused it?
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Nov 27, 2019 16:49
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It wouldn't surprise me if that's a new patch thing. OG ToME (when it was an Angband variant) had quests whose reward was training in a random skill, even off-class skills.
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Nov 27, 2019 16:52
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:It wouldn't surprise me if that's a new patch thing. OG ToME (when it was an Angband variant) had quests whose reward was training in a random skill, even off-class skills. This guy regularly does that; that's not the issue. The issue is that oozemancers are antimagic and this is a spell.
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Nov 27, 2019 16:59
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:It wouldn't surprise me if that's a new patch thing. OG ToME (when it was an Angband variant) had quests whose reward was training in a random skill, even off-class skills. The point is that Oozemancer is an Antimagic class; they're incapable of learning or using magic, instead getting two unique skill trees (Antimagic and Fungus) and the ability to betray arcane escort quest NPCs in exchange for unique skills. In effect, they behave as if they'd joined Zigur from the start. They definitely shouldn't be able to learn Corruptor skills.
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Nov 27, 2019 17:04
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I've never actually beaten TOME. Any tips? I think I've gotten the farthest as an Archer, but die once you go through the portal to the massively powerful wandering mobs on the world map
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Jarvisi posted:I've never actually beaten TOME. Any tips? I think I've gotten the farthest as an Archer, but die once you go through the portal to the massively powerful wandering mobs on the world map the absurd scaling on the patrol enemies is like my least favourite thing about TOME they are always absolute monsters and add nothing to the game, and the only advice I can give you if you aren't playing a class that can just sit behind a tree and drop nuclear weapons on them is to just not run into them, ever
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Nov 27, 2019 17:30
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1.6 tome is either much harder for me, or else i'm out of practice because gotdamn i can not get character out of T2 on insane. the randbosses and uniques that show up just seems so much meaner than before.
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Jarvisi posted:I've never actually beaten TOME. Any tips? I think I've gotten the farthest as an Archer, but die once you go through the portal to the massively powerful wandering mobs on the world map Honestly install a mod that disables patrols, they suck. Alternatively I've noticed in this current version that the orc patrols don't follow you as fast as they used to and lose track after a tile or two so it's alot easier to not fight them at all.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:How is Robothorium? It's on sale for a dollar over at Fanatical and I have it on my wishlist which means I must have heard about it here... I've only played it an hour or so but on first impression it's worth a dollar. The battle system is pretty involved with some neat status effects to manage. Reviews say it gets pretty repetitive in the late game, though.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:How is Robothorium? It's on sale for a dollar over at Fanatical and I have it on my wishlist which means I must have heard about it here... Too Shy Guy posted:I've only played it an hour or so but on first impression it's worth a dollar. The battle system is pretty involved with some neat status effects to manage. Reviews say it gets pretty repetitive in the late game, though. Yeah comparing it to Darkest Dungeon it's somewhat similar but more complicated in ways which are subjective in whether or not they are good mechanics, like there being a dozen different debuffs and one of your classes can spread/duplicate debuffs between enemies as their primary attack. And it gets pretty tedious a lot faster than those reviews would indicate because a lot of enemies just end up being a boring HP sponge to wear down.
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HenryEx posted:What do you mean with this? I sorta had a problem when i bought the latest expansion on steam a week or so ago, then checked my DLC page on the website and had -20 voratun coins listed because it re-listed all the steam games and DLC as bought for some reason. It fixed itself like an hour later though. As I recall, even though the DLC showed as purchased, it wasn't installing, and I couldn't see it on my account on te4.org either. That was a while ago though, should probably check to see if that's still the case. E: Looks like its fixed now, though my account does have -10 coins. Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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Mister No posted:1.6 tome is either much harder for me, or else i'm out of practice because gotdamn i can not get character out of T2 on insane. the randbosses and uniques that show up just seems so much meaner than before. I think it's mostly the improved AI. Enemies are much better about using their abilities to apply debuffs to you and remove debuffs on themselves. The average encounter is going to end up being significantly more dangerous in practice.
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What other (good) roguelikes can be played through the browser? I'm getting tired of splatting characters in DCSS during work, and I don't want to install a bunch of stuff on my work machine.
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Fruits of the sea posted:My issue with TOME is that I inevitably get exhausted of parsing the walls of gear stats. Have a number of wins now, but would probably have twice as many if I didn’t stop looking closely at loot halfway through the prides. What is up with the gear comparison tool in TOME? It just seems half-broken. Like half the time, it does not actually show you what the new weapon has versus the old in parenthesis.
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Epsilon Plus posted:What other (good) roguelikes can be played through the browser? I'm getting tired of splatting characters in DCSS during work, and I don't want to install a bunch of stuff on my work machine. you can play a vast collection of angband variants on angband.live!! wow!! Frogcomposband is cool for absolute insane bloat, Sil-q is cool for being barely a *band, and there's a bunch of other weird janky poo poo from the 90s also. for example, you can play steamband if you like racism. Kobold Sex Tape fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Magitek posted:I think it's mostly the improved AI. Enemies are much better about using their abilities to apply debuffs to you and remove debuffs on themselves. The average encounter is going to end up being significantly more dangerous in practice. I've noticed that the Weirding Beast can be a real motherfucker, now. I thought I was just rusty, but that rear end in a top hat was eating my shields and regeneration effects with suspicious regularity, and playing an awfully focused keep-away game whenever I nuked down its various defensive effects. An AI overhaul could explain that (although it is more likely that I am simply bad).
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Jarvisi posted:I've never actually beaten TOME. Any tips? I think I've gotten the farthest as an Archer, but die once you go through the portal to the massively powerful wandering mobs on the world map Don't fight enemies on the world map. It's possible to avoid them 99.9% of the time and the remaining 0.1% is turning a blind corner into fog of war and getting hosed -- and even that risk can be minimized, although every once in a blue moon (particularly in the East, which has a really annoying layout for a map you're going to be constantly pursued across) it's unavoidable. On Normal this isn't actually necessary, a well-optimized character can handle them easily, but they're still harder than regular enemies. On Nightmare they are doable but not worth the risk. On Insane, actually getting caught by a wandering party is usually a game-over unless you pull out all the stops just to get away or are playing a really OP class. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Don't fight enemies on the world map. It's possible to avoid them 99.9% of the time and the remaining 0.1% is turning a blind corner into fog of war and getting hosed -- and even that risk can be minimized, although every once in a blue moon (particularly in the East, which has a really annoying layout for a map you're going to be constantly pursued across) it's unavoidable. I haven't fought any patrols since 1.6 hit, but at least before my biggest complaint about them was their huge variance in danger. The average patrol actually isn't too bad -- a few rares and a handful of normal orcs, mixed between some tree cover that allows you to use LOS that lets you pick them off a few at a time. But every once in a while you'll run into that megafucker assassination squad that's been commissioned by God himself to absolutely ruin your poo poo. We're talking a pair of counter-comp randbosses that close in on turn 3, a supporting cast that drowns you in undead chaff and antimagic fuckery, and a wyrmic or two that bursts you down as soon as your health starts to dip. Not fun.
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 Jumping in with a gif from Escape from Aeon, development version available for free on itch.io, by spider wisdom & yours truly. This time showcasing an effect inspired by best game Diablo 2 - Disray-type weapons now arc to hit other nearby targets. ToME... I wanna give it another shot, last time I wasn't a fan of the "get bored by fighting trash and then two-shot by some random dude" gameplay loop, but sounds like 1.6 had a thing to warn you when you just got rocked for half your life.
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ToME has had a low-health warning for ages. You can even set the HP threshold where it kicks in; I raised it to 50% because I've lived by the motto of "anything that can take you to half health has proven that it can kill you" ever since my DCSS days. Although now I'm not 100% confident it's part of the base game rather than a ZOmnibus add-on. I'm pretty sure it's in the base game, but on the other hand there's basically no reason to ever play without ZOmnibus anyways.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Although now I'm not 100% confident it's part of the base game rather than a ZOmnibus add-on. I'm pretty sure it's in the base game, but on the other hand there's basically no reason to ever play without ZOmnibus anyways. It's from ZOmnibus
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Also, there's a mod that allows you to escape the patrols on the world map
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Tangledeep expansions: There's a mimic enemy that swipes your equipped weapon and you get it back once it dies. But it also wipes your weapon's memory of what off-hand it's supposed to be paired with, and if you keep a secondary off-hand to go with a secondary weapon, you'll probably end up with your secondary off-hand paired with your main weapon, and probably not notice for a while.
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Angryhead posted:ToME... I wanna give it another shot, last time I wasn't a fan of the "get bored by fighting trash and then two-shot by some random dude" gameplay loop, but sounds like 1.6 had a thing to warn you when you just got rocked for half your life. Yeah, 1.6 has the option to display a warning and disable input for two seconds when hit for [customizable]% of your life in one turn.
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