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Just posting to say that I did a bit of campaigning in Crewe today and the outlook from people I spoke to was still fairly 50/50 - general tone of the town was "I want Brexit done!!! But I loving hate Tories!", and there were two people I was able to talk into the position of considering Labour having each started their conversations with them saying 'I want out of Europe'.  I'm hoping to get out and canvass in more marginal constituencies - if you're considering doing it yourself then please do so!! I enjoyed it a lot and met some really lovely people (including Grace Blakeley!!! who I unfortunately couldn't muster up enough cheek to ask to guest on Praxiscast). It's the only way we can defeat the Tory's two-pronged propaganda weapon of the media and social media targeted ads.RockyB posted:I'd say most of GoggleBox's 3.5 million audience aren't terminally online or the types to sit and watch Deep, Serious Political Shows. Certainly I only watch it when I'm with my politically disengaged parents. I will laugh my arse off if it's the box wot helps win it. edit: gently caress. 8 is the number of marginal constituencies I hope I will have canvassed in by December the 12th!!
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Mr Phillby posted:Logged off for a couple of days because I couldn't face a news cycle about a terrorist attack especially when the press is in full corbyn bad mode. I hope it's named Donald.
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Mr Phillby posted:Logged off for a couple of days because I couldn't face a news cycle about a terrorist attack especially when the press is in full corbyn bad mode. It's not quite "gently caress you I'm Milwall" but I'm glad it continued the British tradition of bizarre responses to terrorist attacks
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Oh my god, he's mastered the hidden runes! https://twitter.com/RobParsonsYP/status/1201160122514509824
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Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought them a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though. Sorry guys. mediadave fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Mr Phillby posted:Logged off for a couple of days because I couldn't face a news cycle about a terrorist attack especially when the press is in full corbyn bad mode. Yes. I gather he fled into the national history museum before having a change of heart. CCTV shows him choosing between a velociraptor claw, a shark jaw and a hippopotamus tooth. At the last moment he looks up and notices the narwhal tusk.
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Apraxin posted:Oh my god, he's mastered the hidden runes! Eh I see the fun in that but I've only ever seen that style of text on suits with dictators and megalomaniacs, so its sort of offputting. Even Obama wore one with 44 embroidered in it.
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mediadave posted:Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though. You did a nice thing. They sound like dicks that didn't deserve cakes. Demiurge4 posted:Eh I see the fun in that but I've only ever seen that style of text on suits with dictators and megalomaniacs, so its sort of offputting. Even Obama wore one with 44 embroidered in it. Didn't that southgate fellow have it? Something about football going home?
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Endjinneer posted:You did a nice thing. They sound like dicks that didn't deserve cakes. Exactly what I think 
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mediadave posted:Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought them a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though. Sounds like they were the failures tbh, who turns down cakes and biscuits?? Unless you said 'cakes and biscuits' and brought out a packet of Jaffa cakes and confused them...
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mediadave posted:Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought them a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though. ^^efb
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mediadave posted:Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought them a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though. Don't be so hard on yourself 
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was it sealed, store bought food? because i'm not going to accept something offered to me by someone I don't know me while campaigning. You tried to do a nice thing though
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whilst the thought was nice, don't hand deliver food, nobody knows where it's been or for how long unless it's hot food, and even then it's a stretch you will be astonished how Member of the Public considers food to be just fine, what a waste to throw it out, just eat it. Or give it away... order delivery and put a note in the order
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mediadave posted:Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought them a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though. They're pricks, you're not, the end
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Xaerael posted:I'd like to make the announcement that Lib Dem supported Tory cuts and austerity have finally caused the imminent shut down two major mental health social care projects at my workplace. One that helped non-elderly people with complex mental health problems who literally need someone to help them organise their lives with things like help getting to, and keeping appointments, keeping track of medications, paying bills, food shopping. The other helped Elderly disabled people around the house with cleaning, bills, phone calls, and such. This is terrible and you have my sympathy. Had something very similar happen to my mum when they shut down the local Surestart centre just leaving her as a rump employee, she ended up quitting because it was so depressing. Apraxin posted:Oh my god, he's mastered the hidden runes! Goddamn it's true. First the low effort posting, then the glasses, now this. Jezza is going full troll this election. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/corbyn-s-eye-catching-for-the-many-not-the-few-jacket-made-by-yorkshire-tailor-1-10131198 Also just had a third (third!) lib lies leaflet posted through the front-door. This one repeats the graph that says based on "recent election results" the libs are in second place and Labour fifth. Completely ignoring that it was the EU election, the conservatives who are in power locally were fourth, and the goddamn Brexit party were the actual winners. As in completely 'forgetting' to include those bars. I really, really wish there was some way to do them for misleading information. For reference I've had nothing from the local tory and a nice visit from my potential Labour MP. Interesting that the libs seem to just be spaffing leaflets constantly but not talking to anyone.
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It was sealed, store bought cakes and biscuits. Anyway, I did leave it with them, so hopefully someone made use of it.
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ronya posted:whilst the thought was nice, don't hand deliver food, nobody knows where it's been or for how long unless it's hot food, and even then it's a stretch That's a fair point. mediadave, you did a nice thing and even if there's reason for them not to accept it they handled it badly. Your intentions were good and that's the truly important thing  Edit: Oh, sealed and store bought? Then they really handled it badly. You've done nothing wrong.
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Demiurge4 posted:Eh I see the fun in that but I've only ever seen that style of text on suits with dictators and megalomaniacs, so its sort of offputting. Even Obama wore one with 44 embroidered in it. Apparently it was a gift from the comments in the thread.
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Was there canvassing going on? Maybe all the actual friendly people had gone to canvas and left the two gooniest specimens in charge of the stalls cos they couldn't be trusted/didn't want to talk to the public on the doorstep. Hope you'll try again. I love hearing everyone's tales even though all I can do is deliver leaflets on my street. The local leafleting organiser assures me that doing so frees up other volunteers to go canvas in marginals. I'm helping!
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OwlFancier posted:Essentially Milliband (I think) introduced one man one vote for leadership elections because the labour right who controlled the party mistakenly believed this would return right wing candidates rather than union backed center left candidates. I see. And yeah if you haven't guessed I'm paying attention to this election because I think there are important parallels (and important differences) between the situation in the UK and the US with regards to left resurgence; and I figure its probably worthwhile to see if there's anything here I can take home, so to speak.
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an_mutt posted:Just posting to say that I did a bit of campaigning in Crewe today and the outlook from people I spoke to was still fairly 50/50 - general tone of the town was "I want Brexit done!!! But I loving hate Tories!", and there were two people I was able to talk into the position of considering Labour having each started their conversations with them saying 'I want out of Europe'. We already bullied Grace Blakeley to be on Praxiscast via twitter. We're gonna talk after the election and see when we can make it work.
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unwantedplatypus posted:I see. And yeah if you haven't guessed I'm paying attention to this election because I think there are important parallels (and important differences) between the situation in the UK and the US with regards to left resurgence; and I figure its probably worthwhile to see if there's anything here I can take home, so to speak. My advice is use your chronosphere to go back in time and develop a worker funded and directed party. Failing that though Bernie does seem to have some inklings towards refusing big money and working outside the structure of the DNC so that's a good idea, imo.
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OwlFancier posted:I assume the secret barrister has a good writeup of it. Yup.
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Julio Cruz posted:is there a good explanation of the law change that Boris is blaming for Khan being let out early? the Beeb (yeah I know) are spinning it as "everyone got automatically let out halfway through their sentences" and that seems a bit, er, unlikely? AIUI - indeterminate sentences (i.e. "lock them up as long as we want") were ruled illegal, so Khan (and many others) were converted to conventional sentences. At halfway through a long sentence you're released on license more-or-less automatically if you don't commit any offences in prison. It's then up to the Probation Service to supervise you.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:AIUI - indeterminate sentences (i.e. "lock them up as long as we want") were ruled illegal, so Khan (and many others) were converted to conventional sentences. At halfway through a long sentence you're released on license more-or-less automatically if you don't commit any offences in prison. It's then up to the Probation Service to supervise you. right, so the caveat is still "and then he should have been kept under supervision but due to Tory cuts to the probation service..." which is probably gonna be useful on doorsteps, thanks
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Paperhouse posted:Who coaches MPs to be like this? Or do 95% of them just naturally become insanely evasive every time a question is asked shadow cab strategically is very valuable in a competitive framework with other MPs - you want to be able to dangle it as an incentive to motivate endorsements, something to horse trade with, etc. it's also seen as a liability if you appear to be recreating a cabinet that has already failed. Corbyn wasn't paying advisors to give him this advice, so he gave the answer that won him the election.
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OwlFancier posted:Y'all are weird if you don't eat anything offered to you imo. rip owlfancier, poisoned by a tory infiltrator
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Boris actually plagiarized the secret barrister to do his long tweet thread about it which is p. lol.GreyjoyBastard posted:rip owlfancier, poisoned by a tory infiltrator The tories can barely muster enough people to guard their own lovely MP much less inflitrate us lol. Besides I think I'd see some jimmy saville looking mother fucker or hitlerjugend a mile off.
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I found a Corbyn post in the wild, I thought you lot might like itquote:Let alone that denying the Jews a right for a homeland and making up lies about the settlements’ illegality is wrong,
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OwlFancier posted:My advice is use your chronosphere to go back in time and develop a worker funded and directed party. After following him for, I suppose years now, it honestly seems like Sanders' goal is to, at the very least, establish a permanent socialist faction in the democratic party. Which admittedly is somewhat hard because the Democratic party is 1) fairly decentralized and 2) not very democratic. One thing that doesn't get talked about much (and forgive me for going into USpol chat) is how for 2016 Bernie was pretty much alone. In the three years since you have people like AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar entering the house of representatives due explicitly to Bernie and the political movements that sprung and grew from his candidacy like Our Revolution or DSA (which was a non-entity until 2016). It seems the US left is forced to rely on charismatic personalities due both to our electoral system meaning candidates are fairly independent from their party and our party structure requiring winning a presidential election for their to even be any sort of decent centralized party authority (the DNC can't discipline poo poo). The reps I mentioned have also been using social media to really outsize their spotlight in the public eye. Though I worry long term that, unless measures for disciplining candidates are implemented by these grassroots organizations, the organizations will begin to lose control of these candidates the more the candidates are able to take over the democratic party apparatus.
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marktheando posted:I found a Corbyn post in the wild, I thought you lot might like it Can't wait for them to give examples of all those instances!
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marktheando posted:I found a Corbyn post in the wild, I thought you lot might like it Wow, all bollocks
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Hizballah, like hezbollah but with fancy alloy rims.
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OwlFancier posted:Hizballah, like hezbollah but with fancy alloy rims. I think it's one of the many accepted spellings - like Q/Kh/Gaddafi
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