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Hey guys, we heard you raised that bridge so this should be OK now, right?
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There was talk of proper tire maintenance pages ago. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/1/russia-bus-crash-19-dead-siberia-river-plunge/ quote:Initial investigation indicates that a front wheel on the bus failed as it was crossing a bridge https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-idUSKBN1Y50V8 quote:Russia's record on road safety is one of the worst in the world. According to the country's traffic police, 18,214 people died in road accidents last year. That is more than the 15,000 Soviet servicemen who were killed during the whole of the Soviet war in Afghanistan in 1979-1989.
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Dec 1, 2019 13:44
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GotLag posted:Two questions about this: The crane doing the lowering would have swung and boomed down as it lowered the boom with the winch the crane with the boom being lowered would have had the swing brake off and it would have followed the other crane. Kibayasu posted:Assuming this is reading the report correctly what possible use would there be to let a crane lift go into freefall.
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"Looks like them Duke boys are at it again"
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Smiling Mandrill posted:I think the thunder river rapid ride accident is where the phrase "injuries incompatible with life" came from. I'm sure it's been around longer. Incident responders shouldn't be calling people "dead", because that means they absolutely don't need treatment, and if they are wrong and it turns out the victim was saveable then they'd have killed someone with negligence. But sometimes a person is very obviously dead. That's why such a term exists.
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Also I don't think responders have the legal authority to pronounce death, so
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monolithburger posted:So you don't get stuck in the loop
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Captain Foo posted:Also I don't think responders have the legal authority to pronounce death, so IIRC it's this. They can't pronounce on them, but you also don't want a EMT or fireman or whatever putting themselves at risk of being injured if it's very clear to all bystanders that there is no head attached to the torso.
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OSHA leggings? https://grizzshopping.com/products/taken-by-my-heavy-equipment-operator-low-rise-leggings-invisible-stitch
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Captain Foo posted:Also I don't think responders have the legal authority to pronounce death, so I've heard cops refer to this as "DRT" (as opposed to "DOA") Dead Right There
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Cyrano4747 posted:IIRC it's this. They can't pronounce on them, but you also don't want a EMT or fireman or whatever putting themselves at risk of being injured if it's very clear to all bystanders that there is no head attached to the torso. Well trying to save someone at your own peril is foolhardy anyway. The first thing they teach you in pretty much any level of responding is to survey the scene. If it isn't safe for you, don't go and add yourself to the count of people needing to be saved.
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Dec 1, 2019 19:01
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Cyrano4747 posted:IIRC it's this. They can't pronounce on them, but you also don't want a EMT or fireman or whatever putting themselves at risk of being injured if it's very clear to all bystanders that there is no head attached to the torso. The local list here is: INDICATIONS EMS providers may pronounce the death of a patient when one or more of the following criteria has been met. a) Decapitation b) Rigor mortis c) Decomposition d) Dependent lividity e) Pulseless, apneic patient in a multi-casualty incident where system resources are required for the stabilization of living patients f) Pulseless, apneic patient with an injury not compatible with life (with the exception of an obviously pregnant female where resuscitation attempts should be initiated and the patient transported to the nearest appropriate facility) g) The EMS provider has terminated resuscitation per the Termination of Resuscitation Protocol.
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Cyrano4747 posted:IIRC it's this. They can't pronounce on them, but you also don't want a EMT or fireman or whatever putting themselves at risk of being injured if it's very clear to all bystanders that there is no head attached to the torso. Yeah, and unless it’s so impossibly beyond life that there’s no other option, they get to phone the ER doc and describe in gruesome detail what they’re looking at so the doc can pronounce them from afar. It’s pretty awesome for all parties involved (my wife is an ER doc and gets to deal with this poo poo exactly, and it’s hard on her, and she knows it’s worse for the EMT)
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"Injuries incompatible with life" is just a nice professional sounding euphemism that gets used as a catchall because there's so many gruesome ways people can die, and because you don't want to go around using phrases like "wrapped around the power takeoff shaft" or "twisted up like a wrung-out washcloth" over the radio.
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Dec 1, 2019 19:21
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chrisgt posted:Well trying to save someone at your own peril is foolhardy anyway. The first thing they teach you in pretty much any level of responding is to survey the scene. If it isn't safe for you, don't go and add yourself to the count of people needing to be saved. Yeah seriously never jump in. Friends dad was power washing his pool and knocked the washer in the pool with him electrocuting him and killing him instantly. His oldest son was in the driveway and thought he had a heart attack so he jumped in after him and died instantly also. loving tragic..........until like a year ago I found out the rest of his family are total CHUDS and now honestly it’s probably for the best.
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Harton posted:Yeah seriously never jump in. Friends dad was power washing his pool and knocked the washer in the pool with him electrocuting him and killing him instantly. His oldest son was in the driveway and thought he had a heart attack so he jumped in after him and died instantly also. loving tragic..........until like a year ago I found out the rest of his family are total CHUDS and now honestly it’s probably for the best. So much for the tolerant left.
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razak posted:d) Dependent lividity I choose to believe this means the children of the deceased are hopping mad about it.
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Powered Descent posted:I choose to believe this means the children of the deceased are hopping mad about it. I was also thinking this. Like they are standing there shouting "DECLARE HER DEAD LIKE THE TV SHOWS, DO IT!"
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Bad Munki posted:Yeah, and unless it’s so impossibly beyond life that there’s no other option, they get to phone the ER doc and describe in gruesome detail what they’re looking at so the doc can pronounce them from afar. It’s pretty awesome for all parties involved (my wife is an ER doc and gets to deal with this poo poo exactly, and it’s hard on her, and she knows it’s worse for the EMT) The first call I ever made like this was about a month or so after I got my EMT license, and it went something like this: Me: "We've got a mid-forties male patient, zero pulse, zero BP, zero respirations. Pedestrian versus pickup truck at about 75mph, and, um. He's all twisted up like a washcloth? His rear end and his face are pointing the same direction? I think he's dead?" Doc: "Yeah, that sounds pretty dead to me. 1950." *click*
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razak posted:EMS providers may pronounce the death of a patient when one or more of the following criteria has been met. I know why they have to include it, but I always find it somewhat amusing that they have to make it clear that you can call someone dead if their head is in a different ZIPcode than their body.
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Dec 1, 2019 19:45
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Yeah, once I went on this insane dual slide that was two tubes intertwined around each other in the double helix formation. By the time you got about halfway down, the water was so churned up and crazy that you were basically underwater. Most people hit the bottom gasping for breath, as they hadn't thought holding their breath was a requirement when going on a slide. I watched it after for a bit as well, and not a single person went for another trip down, one was enough for everyone. Oh god I'd almost wiped this from my memory, Exactly what your described happened to me - No signs or attendant on it either. It put me off dark waterslides forever
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Dec 1, 2019 20:02
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razak posted:a) Decapitation Death metal song titles getting much more descriptive.
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The perspective really hosed me up on this one at first.
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chitoryu12 posted:The perspective really hosed me up on this one at first. It legit looks like it's swiveling forward though
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My mother was a paramedic and she would tell me she was going to work to play in the blood, guts, teeth, hair, and eyeballs. Never told me any good stories though. Can confirm "Dead Right there" is a thing. Edit: I did overhear her once telling someone on the phone she had to hose brain matter out of the ambulance (The "unit")
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Shut up Meg posted:I know why they have to include it, but I always find it somewhat amusing that they have to make it clear that you can call someone dead if their head is in a different ZIPcode than their body. I mean chickens can live for months without heads and I’ve met people that don’t seem to be using more brainpower than a chicken.
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Fortunately this was in the mirror dimension, we transport things much more safely here.
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Guyver posted:The crane doing the lowering would have swung and boomed down as it lowered the boom with the winch the crane with the boom being lowered would have had the swing brake off and it would have followed the other crane. Sorry, this has the same energy as the Ov In The Cold Food tweet.
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more on EMT/Accidental Death chat: People who are legally allowed to pronounce death, at least in my state (don't know if it varies state-by-state, a lot of these type of regulations do), are limited to Physicians (MD and DO) and Hospice RNs only. EMTs here aren't allowed to do so, so they have what they call Paramedic Base Doctors that they call to pronounce for them. Doctors tend to rotate positions all over the place (teaching hospitals, hospices, private practice, etc) and so PBDs are basically just there to be available to EMTs in the event they're needed to go "yep, call it". Only a physician is allowed to sign off on a Death Certificate, though, and finding THAT guy can be like pulling teeth for us poor schmucks that work in funeral homes. There's a guy that works in my office and tracking doctors down wherever the hell they might be that day of the week to fax them the paperwork so they can sign it and get it back to State Vital Records so we can get the family their Death Certificates sometime before the heat death of the universe is his actual full-time job. We're a larger funeral home too, so we're usually juggling 25 services at a time, or thereabouts. Smaller mom-and-pop funeral homes usually have all that stuff handled directly by the funeral directors themselves. anyway that's all to say that we don't really get many OSHA deaths, most of the accidents we handle are like, car accidents or one dude that crashed his snowmobile into a tree, that was pretty gnarly. Worst one was by far the 20-something dude who got mixed up in some kinda gang poo poo they found after a few months in Lake Michigan. His mom had to ID him by photos of what was left of his tattoos. Rough stuff.
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Here, paramedics just fill out "recognition of death" forms. Once we cease resuscitation or decide to not attempt resuscitation due to injuries incompatible with life (a phrase that will rarely be said), then we just fill out the recognition of death form. This isn't pronouncing death. We leave the form with the cops, say cya lol and whenever a doctor decides to show up they look at the recognition of death form and confirm/pronounce the death. 95% of time this is for old people who die their bed.
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`Nemesis posted:This is supposedly the largest operating counterblow hammer in the world, and it's only a few miles from me. A buddy works at this place and they do defense work so zero chance of getting to see it in person. That hammer was used to make Atlas rocket pressure vessels for ICBMs in the early 1950s. Here's a video that starts ~7:30, but I recommend watching the whole thing for siiiiick vacuum arc remelting footage earlier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvADC43EHmE&t=439s In later decades, the hammer allow the single-piece forging of 3rd/4th-gen fighter jet center wing boxes. Lake of Methane fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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https://i.imgur.com/8a0e2PP.gifv Security camera at a home about half a mile from the TPC Chemical explosion. Literally turns night into day. quote:TPC Chemical had a major explosion at 12:56 AM. This security camera footage captured the explosion and the after-effects at a residence that is approximately 1/2 mile from the TPC facility. All of the front and back doors along with the garage doors were blown out. There were also several windows blown out as well. The dog in the video could not be reached for comment
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Memento posted:https://i.imgur.com/8a0e2PP.gifv lmao the dog that wanders out "Yikes, gently caress this noise" and just turns around.
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razak posted:The local list here is: "one or more" lmao
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I’m the banana plant.
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Khizan posted:The first call I ever made like this was about a month or so after I got my EMT license, and it went something like this: That sounds like a best case scenario. The most recent one I (didn't) hear about was pretty rough to the point that the EMT called back again later after everything had spun down in order to "debrief" even though that isn't really a thing, I guess it was some young kid and maybe her dad, obviously I have no specifics to provide but it was a traumatic mess and shitted up everyone's week real good and thorough.
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