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Brown Moses posted:I was literally planning to vote for my local labour candidate, and voted Labour in the last European and General elections. You were? Who do you plan to vote for now?
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Brown Moses posted:Maybe you should stop treating politics like a cult. It’s not a cult, it’s just that when you finally find an actual honest politician with good achievable goals you sort of uh, want them to win, you know. I mean have you loving seen stuff like hardcore Peronism? I think you either haven’t seen a real cult of personality political movement, or are being intellectually dishonest
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Dec 3, 2019 09:20
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I'm sure that nobody is surprised that the Sun is a horrendous rag by now but I do worry that this message, as seen on its front page today, will resonate with its readers.  I have a lot of people from school still on my Facebook and a lot of 'Corbyn loves terrorists' poo poo gets thrown around in memes in those circles and I'm from a constituency that has been Labour since the early 1930s.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:22
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Walton Simons posted:I'm sure that nobody is surprised that the Sun is a horrendous rag by now but I do worry that this message, as seen on its front page today, will resonate with its readers. They tried exactly the same thing last election and basically every day since he got elected, yes it works on some people, but I would suggest if you read and believe the sun you're probably not voting labour anyway given that they spend about half their time complaining about it.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:24
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OwlFancier posted:They tried exactly the same thing last election and basically every day since he got elected, yes it works on some people, but I would suggest if you read and believe the sun you're probably not voting labour anyway given that they spend about half their time complaining about it. Yeah I doubt that many people who have been swayed to Labour this time around will suddenly be turned off by the thousandth vitriolic headline in a row. They're preaching to their own choir now.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:25
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Miftan posted:It implies it REALLY HEAVILY, dude. Also, why are Labour on the spotlight for this? Surely have the government on and say "are these fake? If yes, show us the real ones". This is the simplest loving journalism in the world. As the article states they contacted the government and other relevant parties all of whom didn't respond. The article states the source of the documents posted by Labour appears to be the same as the documents posted by the accounts associated with the earlier Russian disinformation, which posted false and modified documents. Now if this was the source of the documents, which could just have been as simple as an unawares individual finding the documents online via the accounts sharing them, then there's a realistic possiblity the documents could have been altered in someway, because that's the same pattern of behaviour seen before. The problem is, we don't know for sure, because the Labour party hasn't made a statement about the source of the documents, and the government and US have refused to comment on the authenticity of the documents. If the documents are faked then it's the Labour party which is going to be the victim here, and if they did get the documents from the online sources described in the article it's a pretty good demonstration of why it's important for the media to report on Russian disinformation campaigns and highlight which accounts are involved so political parties don't get caught up in them.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:26
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Dec 3, 2019 09:26
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stev posted:It would cover an entire third of the tuition fees that Jo and her mates decided students should be paying. If that doesn't bring them on board I don't know what will. Well you see, now we have effectively only doubled tuition fees. You're welcome 
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Dec 3, 2019 09:27
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Walton Simons posted:I'm sure that nobody is surprised that the Sun is a horrendous rag by now but I do worry that this message, as seen on its front page today, will resonate with its readers. "Politician says that leader of other party bad" is pretty weaksauce. Could they not find someone with MI5/MI6 connections to say it? Or is that one for next week?
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Dec 3, 2019 09:34
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jabby posted:Honestly, I wouldn't recommend watching it to anybody in this thread. I certainly didn't. Fully agreed. I avoid things like that because they destroy me, and I don't need telling how bad things are. I already know, and it infuriates me. I'll help when I can, but I have to look out for my own health. If you're already furious, you're already fighting for these people.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:34
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stev posted:Yeah I doubt that many people who have been swayed to Labour this time around will suddenly be turned off by the thousandth vitriolic headline in a row. They're preaching to their own choir now. I mean the reminder is probably going to affect some people but yeah, I doubt there's a giant segment of people who will be suddenly converted by, as noted, boris johnson saying corbyn bad. The articles are there to keep people who already think that, thinking it right into the voting booth.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:35
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I remember hearing that Cummings was going to repeat his Vote Leave strategy of dedicating most campaign attacks and resources to the final few weeks so the last thing people hear is a negative line about Labour so prepare yourselves because this is quite likely only the beginning of their bullshit.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:37
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Qwertycoatl posted:"Politician says that leader of other party bad" is pretty weaksauce. Could they not find someone with MI5/MI6 connections to say it? Or is that one for next week? Lol they're hiding in shame at the absolute monstering they got from McDonnell
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Dec 3, 2019 09:38
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Brown Moses posted:The article states the source of the documents posted by Labour appears to be the same as the documents posted by the accounts associated with the earlier Russian disinformation Hmmm not exactly a smoking gun is it? Which is unsurprising considering the documents are real. A fact everyone is taking great pains not to dispute.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:39
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Walton Simons posted:I'm sure that nobody is surprised that the Sun is a horrendous rag by now but I do worry that this message, as seen on its front page today, will resonate with its readers. What kind of sentence is that? Corbyn is security risk. Really trying to whittle that phrase down to its bare minimum, blasting it through the pre-frontals right into that cobra brain. NATO summit today in London, the orange boy is coming over (probably why they're smearing hard to counterbalance upcoming guffs belched out). Friday is another BBC debate, next monday is young people's QT, going to be fun seeing young Tories in action.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:39
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Brown Moses posted:As the article states they contacted the government and other relevant parties all of whom didn't respond. Observe, dear reader, the seamless transition from "it doesn't say they're fake" to "it's actually good that it says they might be fake" this is what peak lubricated brain performance looks like.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:40
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I am not surprised by this crazy scrutiny of everything Labour is doing and nothing of what tories et all are doing. The current American government and the CIA (plus CIA donated to 'organisations') definitely does not want Corbyn to be prime minister, especially as it makes it more acceptable for Sanders.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:43
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 Brown Moses posted:where in that article does anyone claim the Tories wanting to sell of the NHS is a Russian lie? lmao, well done
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Dec 3, 2019 09:44
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Walton Simons posted:I'm sure that nobody is surprised that the Sun is a horrendous rag by now but I do worry that this message, as seen on its front page today, will resonate with its readers. It can be hard canvassing someone when they keep steering the conversation back to Daisy Lowe's tits but just keep trying to bring things back around to key policy announcements. Think of all the tits you could look at with free broadband, for example
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Dec 3, 2019 09:46
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They’ve made Jezza look like the devil, or at least a Breaking Bad character, which I get, but they’ve also made Boris look like a ghost, which seems like a gently caress up on their part. +++POWERFUL CORBYN’S DEVIL ENERGY SLAYS FEEBLE JOHNSON
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Dec 3, 2019 09:48
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VideoGames posted:I am not surprised by this crazy scrutiny of everything Labour is doing and nothing of what tories et all are doing. The current American government and the CIA (plus CIA donated to 'organisations') definitely does not want Corbyn to be prime minister, especially as it makes it more acceptable for Sanders. Conversely that's part of why I hope we can, I hope it'd be a boost for the sanders campaign and the american left if they can see us clawing back our futures.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:51
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Brown Moses posted:
The red scare dog whistle is so loud it’s interrupted the fifth canine international. Edit: which is a shame because it’s been going really well so far, Comrade Goodest Boy has just been outlining the rejection of Stalinism in modern dog communism lenoon fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Dec 3, 2019 |
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Dec 3, 2019 09:52
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lenoon posted:The red scare dog whistle is so loud it’s interrupted the fifth canine international. You're projecting so hard you should work in a cinema.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:54
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Brown Moses posted:The article states the source of the documents posted by Labour appears to be the same as the documents posted by the accounts associated with the earlier Russian disinformation, The evidence for this is that it was posted on Reddit and had spelling mistakes. That's it. And based on that the entire media class (which now includes you whether you like it or not) are using it in an attempt to make it easier for billionaires to get richer at the expense of the poorest.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:54
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Brown Moses posted:You're projecting so hard you should work in a cinema. I have often thought it would be a fun job
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Dec 3, 2019 09:55
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Walton Simons posted:I'm sure that nobody is surprised that the Sun is a horrendous rag by now but I do worry that this message, as seen on its front page today, will resonate with its readers. If you get this argument in the wild the simple counter is 'more or less of a risk than abandoning his security to get shitfaced with Russian billionaires whilst foreign secretary' https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/boris-johnson-security-evgeny-lebedev-perugia-party
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Dec 3, 2019 09:57
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Moses votes for 30 more years in the Tory desert
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Dec 3, 2019 09:58
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This is literally the entire article.quote:(Reuters) - The leak and distribution of classified British-U.S. trade documents online resembles a disinformation campaign uncovered this year that originated in Russia, according to experts who say it could signal foreign interference in Britain's election. It's literally saying that "posting on reddit and twitter with spelling mistakes" means you resemble a russian psyops campaign. Oh and not responding to someone @ing you saying "I'm a journalist tell me how you found all this"
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Dec 3, 2019 09:59
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Brown Moses posted:Also, where in that article does anyone claim the Tories wanting to sell of the NHS is a Russian lie? hmm, a language error typical of a non-native English speaker, has even Brown Moses been compromised by Secondary Infektion??
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Dec 3, 2019 10:01
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Brown Moses posted:You're projecting so hard you should work in a cinema. If you are not going to reply to my post about asking if you are going to vote lib dem, it would be nice to respond to this one: jaete posted:You were? Who do you plan to vote for now? because it honestly seems you are now part of the establishment which means American state department funding and republicanism/torism and 'acceptable' torism here is Lib Dem. I mean, it is weird how you have a journalistic organisation that is supposed to be exposing stuff, but instead on working on say the Russia Report that the tories have, you would prefer to go along with Tories about the NHS documents. Very weird.
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Dec 3, 2019 10:01
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Wait I wasn’t projecting at all, the images really were moving on the screen! It’s a miracle! Alfredo! Alfredo!
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Dec 3, 2019 10:01
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Unless you respond to our thread investigative expert on why you're voting lib dem I'm going to have to assume you're a russian bot.
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Dec 3, 2019 10:02
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I gently caress up while phone post so much that Brown Moses thinks I'm the head of the FSB
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Dec 3, 2019 10:03
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The "Vote For Policies" thing is back again, I got a red/green split with one Lib Dem policy area in there too *spits* Busy reminding people to vote tacticoolly to get/keep the Tories out in their area. Vote with smarts as well as hearts.
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Dec 3, 2019 10:04
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I know now why Jose rips on BM
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Dec 3, 2019 10:06
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mila kunis posted:Wrap it up, Corbyn's a ruskie and the Tories wanting to sell off the NHS is a russian lie My recent leak of poo poo resembled my recent leak of piss, experts say. The leak and distribution of the former suspiciously bears all the hallmarks of the latter. They both begin with me adjusting my clothing and touching myself, and I was as surprised as anyone when stuff came out of the wrong hole. I've got the poop scoop!
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Dec 3, 2019 10:10
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Brown Moses posted:Maybe you should stop treating politics like a cult. You not got a coup in Bolivia to apologise for?
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Dec 3, 2019 10:13
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Dec 3, 2019 10:14
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sebzilla posted:The "Vote For Policies" thing is back again, I got a red/green split with one Lib Dem policy area in there too *spits* Eh everything is so high stakes and messy that unless the Labour vote was 1/10th of the Tory vote or so last time I'd still bang the Vote Labour drum. The Liberals will betray us so they need to be given as little as possible.
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I'd rather have my misinformation campaigns be American and proper, not like these bad Russian misinformation campaigns that actually give out information.
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