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Is there some reason they haven’t deposed Lev Parnas yet? He seems to be begging for the opportunity and has some crazy stuff to reveal. You think they’d want to get it done before he changes his mind or ends up with an acute case of polonium poisoning
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GlobalMegaCorp posted:Is there some reason they haven’t deposed Lev Parnas yet? He seems to be begging for the opportunity and has some crazy stuff to reveal. You think they’d want to get it done before he changes his mind or ends up with an acute case of polonium poisoning fifth amendment/harm to ongoing prosecution of him if they want him to talk to Congress, they're going to have to give him some form of immunity. they can't compel him to talk due to his very obvious fifth amendment rights that extend to anything we'd want to know about they have the power to do this, but it's a complicated decision and there's a lot of behind-the-scenes vetting and negotiation involved that we won't know about until it happens. and there's legit separation of powers concerns -- I know the Barr DOJ is corrupt as poo poo, but granting testimonial immunity will potentially make it much harder for the SDNY to prosecute him, and that is something you want to avoid unless it's totally necessary eke out fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:The only people testifying tomorrow are legal scholars. 3 for the Dems, 1 for the Reps. What if Obama is one of the legal scholars
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 04:29 |
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:What if Obama is one of the legal scholars Then he'd probably say that Trump shouldn't be impeached but they should arrest Schiff in interest of bipartistanship.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 04:34 |
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cr0y posted:What's the key action that keeps me from swearing in my pet cactus as president? The outcome of the electoral college? The electors would have to vote for your pet cactus, then a judge would have to administer it the Oath of Office.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 04:35 |
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Ogmius815 posted:The Chief Justice doesn’t even have to do it. You could probably have, like, a notary public do it if necessary. Maybe even a rando with no official status at all. This literally happened. When Harding died, Calvin Coolidge was visiting his parents in backwoods Vermont. His father, a notary, administered the oath.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:08 |
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:The electors would have to vote for your pet cactus, then a judge would have to administer it the Oath of Office. Also, you’d have to prove the cactus was a natural born citizen at least 35 years old.
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Killer robot posted:This literally happened. When Harding died, Calvin Coolidge was visiting his parents in backwoods Vermont. His father, a notary, administered the oath. Huh, that’s neat. I learned something today.
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Killer robot posted:This literally happened. When Harding died, Calvin Coolidge was visiting his parents in backwoods Vermont. His father, a notary, administered the oath.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:32 |
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FilthyImp posted:Remember when Obama was sworn in the second time and Roberts flubbed the oath and everyone was like 'THE GOP WILL SAY HE'S AN ILLEGAL PRESIDENT!!!!!" That was the first time.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:38 |
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FilthyImp posted:Remember when Obama was sworn in the second time and Roberts flubbed the oath and everyone was like 'THE GOP WILL SAY HE'S AN ILLEGAL PRESIDENT!!!!!" Extremely prophetic in hindsight
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:49 |
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FilthyImp posted:Remember when Obama was sworn in the second time and Roberts flubbed the oath and everyone was like 'THE GOP WILL SAY HE'S AN ILLEGAL PRESIDENT!!!!!" Didn't some psychopath draw a comic showing Robert gunning down Obama whilst he was swearing him in?
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:50 |
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Hunt11 posted:Didn't some psychopath draw a comic showing Robert gunning down Obama whilst he was swearing him in? Don't worry, it was just a dream by a black mouthpiece character.
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Killer robot posted:This literally happened. When Harding died, Calvin Coolidge was visiting his parents in backwoods Vermont. His father, a notary, administered the oath. LBJ was also initially sworn in by a local federal judge and then later publicly sworn in by the Chief Justice just to prevent any dispute over the legitimacy. Also as the first and only POTUS sworn in on an airplane, I'm sure you could find some bizarre sovereign citizen argument that it only makes him the president of birds and small helicopters. Acute Grill fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Gnumonic posted:We probably should have some mechanism to redo an election if there's blatant evidence of hacking but I have no idea which institution you could trust with making that determination. The temptation to abuse that power for partisan ends would be overwhelming. Most western countries do have such an institution, with courts making the final decision. Of course, with judges being political appointees or elected in the US, this is a bigger problem. Lambert fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Ogmius815 posted:Also, you’d have to prove the cactus was a natural born citizen at least 35 years old. President Saguaro 2020! Make America Prickly Again!
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DandyLion posted:President Saguaro 2020! Make America Prickly Again! But then a smear campaign about his hallucinogenic cousins would derail everything and he would spin off CactusTV.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 15:13 |
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https://www.twitch.tv/washingtonpost starts at 10am est
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 15:15 |
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The Republicans' lawyer of choice has come up with one hell of an argument (courtesy of the CNN liveblog):quote:"I get it. You are mad. The President is mad. My Democratic friends are mad. My Republican friends are mad. My wife is mad. My kids are mad. Even my dog is mad . . . and Luna is a golden doodle and they are never mad. We are all mad and where has it taken us? Will a slipshod impeachment make us less mad or will it only give an invitation for the madness to follow in every future administration?"
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 15:34 |
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I can't wait for Jerry Nadler to old man yell at somebody.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 15:41 |
https://twitter.com/AndrewBatesNC/status/1202213607649546240?s=19
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Killer robot posted:This literally happened. When Harding died, Calvin Coolidge was visiting his parents in backwoods Vermont. His father, a notary, administered the oath. in hindsight maybe we should have invalidated coolidge's presidency
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 15:56 |
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quote:"This is not how an American president should be impeached. For two years, members of this Committee have declared that criminal and impeachable acts were established for everything from treason to conspiracy to obstruction. However, no action was taken to impeach. Suddenly, just a few weeks ago, the House announced it would begin an impeachment inquiry and push for a final vote in just a matter of weeks."
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:04 |
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Well they should've made up their mind before the President tried to blackmail Ukraine for his own political benefit!
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:06 |
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Lord Hydronium posted:So Democrats are simultaneously taking too much and too little time to impeach? Oh poo poo GOP analysts are reading this forum
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:08 |
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Oh mannnnnn about to sit down with breakfast and listen in
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:09 |
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Well this is off to a dumb start
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:09 |
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oxsnard posted:Well this is off to a dumb start Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Impeachment Thread: 'Well this is off to a dumb start'
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:10 |
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Sensenbrenner is my fat gently caress of a rep. I can't stand his voice. Though I did get him to red-faced yell at me at a town hall in 2016, so that's somethin.
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oxsnard posted:Well this is off to a dumb start I just got home from dropping off my kids, what horrors did I miss?
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zonohedron posted:I just got home from dropping off my kids, what horrors did I miss? quote:Just seconds after House Judiciary Chair Jerry Nadler gaveled today's hearing into session, a GOP congressman interrupted with an objection.
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zonohedron posted:I just got home from dropping off my kids, what horrors did I miss? Typical Republican bullshit at the start, now Nadler's opening statement. You didn't miss much.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:18 |
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Right after Nadler started, Wisconsin chud (and human potato) Sensenbrenner immediately interjects with a GOP request for another hearing led by them
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:19 |
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Nadler not messing around. Oh look, it's Foghorn Leghorn!
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:20 |
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Collins is up... loving idiot
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:20 |
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Dumb gently caress is trying to get angry like Gym Jordan
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:21 |
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And then as Foghorn Leghorn gets started there's somebody trying to make a parliamentary inquiry, but at least our favorite rooster also shuts it down so he can cluck disapprovingly.
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:21 |
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...is this guy actually worse than Nunes?
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# ? Dec 4, 2019 16:22 |
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COLLINS IS ANGRY! ANGRY ABOUT IMPEACHMENT!!
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How long is today's hearing set to go for? I've got an hour long meeting soon, and I don't want to miss everything. Also, it's so crazy to me that all the GOP can muster is to attack the process, but they never try and dispute any of the facts.
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