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ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014

tango alpha delta posted:

Steam and Game Pass Ultimate are so loving inexpensive that piracy for me is not really a thing anymore. For me piracy was mostly about being completely broke, but wanting to play some cool poo poo back in the day. Cracking copy protection was also a lot of fun. I found more than one message hidden in the game code basically telling pirates to gently caress off.

That's understandable but there are some games that aren't on steam or game pass or take more than the 2 hour steam grace period to get a good feel for

ChazTurbo fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Dec 3, 2019

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tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

ChazTurbo posted:

That's understandable but there are some games that aren't on steam or game pass or take more than the 2 hour steam grace period to get a good feel for

That's fair. I'm not sure what the refund policy is on App Store games, for example.

At the end of the day this is a first world problem in one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world. No one has ever died from NOT playing a video game.

To get back on track, Alien Blackout is actually pretty good.

tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Dec 3, 2019

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


pirating is fine the real crime is pretending you're doing it for noble reasons

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



my biggest regret of 2019 was paying for the outer worlds and stealing disco elysium

pooch516
Mar 10, 2010

Maya Fey posted:

pirating is fine

Did you just admit to a crime???

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Maya Fey posted:

pirating is fine the real crime is pretending you're doing it for noble reasons

eRobin Hood is the loving worst, just steal games cause you don't want to pay for them and admit as much.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Damaging companies is noble

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi
i buy goods AND services :smug:

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Rutibex posted:

but castlevania 2 is better than metroid

If Castlevania 2 got a proper translation, an in-game map, and a battery backup save it would have been remembered as a classic that was way ahead of its time.

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Oh to once more download a keygenerator exe that not only magics up a code for your pirated game but also plays a wicked cool MID while doing so. That's A+ customer service.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I really like the music on fitgirl's installer.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

is pepsi ok posted:

If Castlevania 2 got a proper translation, an in-game map, and a battery backup save it would have been remembered as a classic that was way ahead of its time.

but it had all of those things. i don't think you played NES games properly

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014

big nipples big life posted:

eRobin Hood is the loving worst, just steal games cause you don't want to pay for them and admit as much.

Agreed. I used to pirates when I was young and broke and now just to dip my toe but people that grand stand are obnoxious.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
i mean i would love it if i could afford to buy every game that comes out that looks good, but i cant...sooooo

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Icochet posted:

Oh to once more download a keygenerator exe that not only magics up a code for your pirated game but also plays a wicked cool MID while doing so. That's A+ customer service.

ancient cracktros looked extremely cool...

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014

site posted:

i mean i would love it if i could afford to buy every game that comes out that looks good, but i cant...sooooo

I usually just wait until they're heavily discounted

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Ocean Book posted:

i buy goods AND services :smug:

guillotine

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Rutibex posted:

but it had all of those things. i don't think you played NES games properly


Wow, I remember that magazine cover, it was awesome.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
On the few occasions I did pirate games I ended up buying them anyway (on :steam: sale), I don't really bother now as unless it's something I'm megahype for like DMC5 I wait til it's under £20

t-.-t
Nov 25, 2006

Yeah, I pirated a lot more when I was young but now I have money so I feel guilty if I don't. Still not gonna go up someone's rear end if they do though.

My Unpopular Videogame Opinion: I unironically enjoy achievements and such in games and prefer games to have them, to the point where with my massive backlog I tend to skip over games that don't have them.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



My favorites are the pirates who try to insist that they're not stealing.

DildenAnders
Mar 16, 2016

"I recommend Batman especially, for he tends to transcend the abysmal society in which he's found himself. His morality is rather rigid, also. I rather respect Batman.â€Â

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

My favorites are the pirates who try to insist that they're not stealing.

Those people are so drat annoying. I'm all for socialism but "freedon of data" is bullshit. Just admit you don't want to give Disney $60 to play/watch Star Wars. No one but the most slack-jawed, mouse hat wearing Brand Slave or pocket-protector owning fan of The Rules will give you poo poo for that. Also for a while there it was easier/more reliable to pirate games from like the mid 90's than to use the crappy installation media that still floats around for them.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Stealing is good, in general.

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.

The lengths publishers went to to inconvenience and spy on paying customers in the name of copy protection in the 90s and 2000s were by themselves justification for piracy.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
You don't need justification for piracy. Just like you don't need justification for buying stuff.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I only just realised not long ago that you can get a nintendo ds emulator for your phone.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
piracy is good. copyright is just a really dumb system in light of the computer/internet age and until we come together and figure out something reasonable i'm not going to give it any moral weight.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

fridge corn posted:

I only just realised not long ago that you can get a nintendo ds emulator for your phone.

Emulators were basically the only reason I considered staying with an Android.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Ocean Book posted:

i buy goods AND services :smug:

What is this wishy-washy truth is in the middle bullshit. Buy goods or buy services, not both.

Pick a side already ya twat.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Rutibex posted:

piracy is good. copyright is just a really dumb system in light of the computer/internet age and until we come together and figure out something reasonable i'm not going to give it any moral weight.

look i understand you don't want to pay for video games but you can't somehow claim you're stealing it for some moral reason against like uh, video game capitalism, you just can't.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Caesar Saladin posted:

look i understand you don't want to pay for video games but you can't somehow claim you're stealing it for some moral reason against like uh, video game capitalism, you just can't.

No one cares stfu

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Caesar Saladin posted:

look i understand you don't want to pay for video games but you can't somehow claim you're stealing it for some moral reason against like uh, video game capitalism, you just can't.

thats the thing though, it is a problem with capitalism. physical goods have a production cost and an associated price, there also is not enough for everyone to have everything they want so we need prices and markets to decided who gets what. thats not the case with digital goods. in theory everyone could have access to all digital goods and it would not cost anything. the fact that we have not figured out a system that lets everyone have access makes copyright morally bankrupt. i'm not just talking about trivial things like video games, i'm talking about books and any kind of information

its like we invented the Star Trek replicator, but locked it down and prevented anyone from using it for anything because it would harm rich peoples profitability.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug

Rutibex posted:

thats the thing though, it is a problem with capitalism. physical goods have a production cost and an associated price, there also is not enough for everyone to have everything they want so we need prices and markets to decided who gets what. thats not the case with digital goods. in theory everyone could have access to all digital goods and it would not cost anything. the fact that we have not figured out a system that lets everyone have access makes copyright morally bankrupt. i'm not just talking about trivial things like video games, i'm talking about books and any kind of information

its like we invented the Star Trek replicator, but locked it down and prevented anyone from using it for anything because it would harm rich peoples profitability.

This is a great summation and analogy. As long as you ignore the fact that the main motivation for people actually creating said information is money.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Doom Rooster posted:

This is a great summation and analogy. As long as you ignore the fact that the main motivation for people actually creating said information is money.

i never said it wasn't. i said we need to figure out a better system; which would obviously involve paying people to create new content. the vast majority of commercial content creators do not own the copyright to their own work, they are hired by companies and paid a salary just like everyone else. university professors (you know, the people who create the actual important information) do not own the copyright on the papers they publish and typically don't get patents for their research either. these people are not being motivated by the copyright system directly, so they could be just as easily motivated by some other payment system.

indy game developers and book authors interact with copyright directly, but they too could use a different system. kickstarter allows people to pay for media they want to be created ahead of time, and Patreon allows people to give creative types a regular salary in exchange for the work they do. better systems are easily possible, and the fact that we are not looking for ways to scrap copyright makes it morally bankrupt

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Yes but have you considered

SLLUUUURP *tonguing boot

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
I can’t wait to skim past the next 300 posts about capitalism in the gbs video game thread

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

steal video games or don't steal video games but either way don't post about it.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



I fuckin' hate it when mods turn into bloatware. I started messing around in Mount and Blade Warband again and tried out a mod called Diplomacy. But it's more like "Diplomacy and a bunch of other stupid poo poo I've changed but haven't even bothered to mention in the readme".

gently caress you, mod makers who do that.

Slothful Bong
Dec 2, 2018

Filling the Void with Chaos

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

I fuckin' hate it when mods turn into bloatware. I started messing around in Mount and Blade Warband again and tried out a mod called Diplomacy. But it's more like "Diplomacy and a bunch of other stupid poo poo I've changed but haven't even bothered to mention in the readme".

gently caress you, mod makers who do that.

I sorta remember this kind of stuff with all the STALKER series mods. Any time someone would collect a bunch into a pack, there would always be a handful of really unfun mods added, occasionally without descriptions.

All that said, CoP is still the most i've been into a game besides Destiny 1, and even the lovely mods can turn it into a newish game.

And I just took a look at ModDB, and people are still pumping out content for that game. There's a shitton of new mods, so looks like I need to dive back in!

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big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

There was one for stalker that seemed like it was cool but then some dumb looking thing that looked like it came out of free asset central attacked me and I deleted the whole thing.

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