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Bongo Bill posted:2 kind of is. 3 is not, and to me that's the game where the series finally became itself. Well that's good to know. I'm still gonna do 2 after this, and then move on to 3 afterwards so I have that to look forward to.
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DQ2 doesn't have as much grinding, but it does have poor balance. DQ3 was great until the last or next to last dungeon, where enemies took far too long to kill all of a sudden.
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Nov 30, 2019 05:40
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Ciaphas posted:I completely spaced on DQ Builders 2 being out. How is it? Specifically, did they fix any of the gripey parts of the first game, like literally all of chapter 4? There are a ton of quality-of-life improvements. Some examples off the top of my head: - no more hammer durability - giant chests almost right out of the gate - hub world that you can go back to between areas - you have a pal who helps with a lot of the combat There's an enormous demo in the store that carries over to the main game if you decide you like it.
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Jet Jaguar posted:There are a ton of quality-of-life improvements. Some examples off the top of my head: Is the end of each chapter still a giant irritating reset button on my recipes?
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Ciaphas posted:Is the end of each chapter still a giant irritating reset button on my recipes?
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Cool! Guess I'm buying the pc port for my birthday  I'll check out the Switch demo in the meantime.
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The original version of 3 on NES is pretty grindy, but the SNES/GBC remakes cut that by a lot because they give you a lot more free equipment, gold, and whips exist.
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Yeah, i almost feel like they left grinding in as a bizarre legacy feature in 1-2, because I’m nearing the end of 3 and even with halfassing vocations (I only reclassed my mage into a sage) I’ve never had to hunker down and grind for levels aside from multiple runs through Baramos’ keep because I got murked. 3 is almost absurdly friendly with levels and EXP compared even to like 5, although I might be biased because I used a martial artist and they really don’t need much equipment once they start leveling. Then again I DID manage to grab the golden claws after two unsuccessful attempts so that probably did a lot for my levels. 
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The remakes of 1-3 basically double the EXP and gold yields from enemies. That means if you're playing anything at least as new as the Super Famicom version of 1 and 2, you are already experiencing less grind than the originals. Remakes are basically definitive in this series, so don't force yourself through older versions that the director thinks have mistakes out of a misguided sense of purity.
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Hyper Inferno posted:The original version of 3 on NES is pretty grindy, but the SNES/GBC remakes cut that by a lot because they give you a lot more free equipment, gold, and whips exist. Original NES 3 is actually the fastest (non-RNG manipulation, non-major glitch) of the entire series to speedrun (not counting remakes of 1, 2, and 3) and typically requires the least grinding. Baramos is more difficult than Zoma typically, so you don't really need the extra 10-15 levels of XP that all signs imply you need. Also you can use the "minor" parry glitch to parry on every character except the one in the last slot each round while they still get full actions.
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BabyRyoga posted:Original NES 3 is actually the fastest (non-RNG manipulation, non-major glitch) of the entire series to speedrun (not counting remakes of 1, 2, and 3) and typically requires the least grinding. Baramos is more difficult than Zoma typically, so you don't really need the extra 10-15 levels of XP that all signs imply you need. Was the parry glitch removed from the snes version?
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Bongo Bill posted:The remakes of 1-3 basically double the EXP and gold yields from enemies. I definitely felt that the xp changes in DQ 1 took it from something that was a chore to something that didn't outstay its welcome.
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Social Animal posted:Was the parry glitch removed from the snes version? Yeah, the NES ver of 3 is the only one that has it. The SNES version plays out a little faster than the NES one, but the bosses are way more difficult.
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Dragon Quest 3 is for me where the series really took off. It wasn't even my first Dragon Quest(that was 4), and I've probably come back to it the most other than 5 and 6. I finished the first two just to see the series origins, but I haven't played either since.
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I'm enjoying playing through 1 and 2, to see where the series got its roots. I doubt I'll ever play them again though, unless they get remade in the future. Also, I've been following a guide for each, and I couldn't imagine how long it would take to finish these games without one. I'm very impatient. Booted up the SFC verison of 3 and it looks really drat good! Can't wait to start playing that.
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I never played the second game as a kid but the dragon warrior copy I had came with what was a essentially a walkthrough/guide book.
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The Dragon Quest Illustrations artbook is on sale on Amazon, if anybody's interested. Seems it's usually 31 USD plus tax but I got it for 17 after tax.
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DQ11 ran into a mermaid remember hearing something about how you can actually gently caress up here somehow. Feel free to spoil me how do I avoid the bad with her?
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Wait there's multiple outcomes there? The only bizarre thing about the mermaid to me was (Late game spoilers) When I went back in time she was still alive, even though the time I went back to was several chapters after she had already self-yeeted herself to the world tree John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Wait there's multiple outcomes there? Yeah but neither make any real impact on the game so don’t stress it.
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Avalerion posted:DQ11 ran into a mermaid remember hearing something about how you can actually gently caress up here somehow. Feel free to spoil me how do I avoid the bad with her? You should just do what you think is best, but There's no happy ending for her. You can either lie to her and let her continue her extremely long life alone and waiting for happiness that will never come, or tell her the truth and give her eternal rest.
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There's a demo? For a PC port? It's real and up on DQB™2's Steam page right now.
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The demo either works or is completely busted for people. The tutorial guy refuses to advance the plot and is stuck behind a door.
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Builders 2 on PC seems pretty good to me. It's the version I was waiting for mostly for frame rate and view distance improvements. PC options seem good but it's capped at 60 fps and I get the sense that they could have increased the view distance a bit more. I also have the text at full speed but there seems to be some inner voice dialogue that hangs in the screen for an extremely long time and can't be skipped for no apparent reason.
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RVWinkle posted:Builders 2 on PC seems pretty good to me. It's the version I was waiting for mostly for frame rate and view distance improvements. PC options seem good but it's capped at 60 fps and I get the sense that they could have increased the view distance a bit more. I also have the text at full speed but there seems to be some inner voice dialogue that hangs in the screen for an extremely long time and can't be skipped for no apparent reason.
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How are the controls? Building in first person seems like it'd be fine on PC, but the third person building controls seem like they could be a problem unless they reworked them for mouse and keyboard players
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Icedude posted:How are the controls? Building in first person seems like it'd be fine on PC, but the third person building controls seem like they could be a problem unless they reworked them for mouse and keyboard players I played with an XBone controller but they seem to be encouraging the use of a mouse with extra tool tips. The mouse cursor also annoyingly pops up in the middle of the screen every time a level loads. I think you're right that keyboard controls would be bad because there's 4 action buttons.
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Yeah, m+kb makes it pretty hard to place things accurately in 3rd person, and you also have to deal with an incredibly sluggish camera. Game runs on my PC though, which is more than I expected, so thanks Jumbo Demo (or "Jemo").
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:that happened in Senuas Sacrifice and everyone said it was art Im pretty sure most people said that game was fart
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Just got a chance to try the PC demo myself and the mouse aiming is certainly a bit rough. Its like it's trying to translate mouse movement into joystick inputs or something. You absolutely need to turn the Camera Rotation Speed setting all the way to fastest. Hopefully theres a hidden options file to be edited somewhere. And yeah, third person controls on mouse and keyboard are hot garbage as I expected. Only just got off the boat so no idea how well Furrowfield performs, but I think I'll leave that for another day
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https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/12/rumour_a_western_release_of_dragon_quest_heroes_i_and_ii_is_looking_even_more_likely Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2 might be coming out on the Switch in the West.
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I’ve been playing DQXI on Switch in 2D because I already played all the way through it on PS4. Are there really no indicators for ailments in the battle screen other than the combat text that scrolls by? I know that’s more authentic to classic DQ but it makes it way more annoying. I’m always like uhh is the boss sleeping or am I fuddled or whatever. There doesn't even seem to be a separate screen you can pull up in battle to check the status of everyone. I may just have to go back to 3D mode 
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I'm watching Home Alone 2 right now and watched Home Alone on Friday, be it's really weird but this Williams score sounds a lot like Sugiyama Dragon Quest in parts
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Baxate posted:I’ve been playing DQXI on Switch in 2D because I already played all the way through it on PS4. Are there really no indicators for ailments in the battle screen other than the combat text that scrolls by? I know that’s more authentic to classic DQ but it makes it way more annoying. I’m always like uhh is the boss sleeping or am I fuddled or whatever. There doesn't even seem to be a separate screen you can pull up in battle to check the status of everyone. I’ve been playing in 3d but in the tockle pieces I noticed under the character names at the top it told me when one was fuddled.
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Baxate posted:I’ve been playing DQXI on Switch in 2D because I already played all the way through it on PS4. Are there really no indicators for ailments in the battle screen other than the combat text that scrolls by? I know that’s more authentic to classic DQ but it makes it way more annoying. I’m always like uhh is the boss sleeping or am I fuddled or whatever. There doesn't even seem to be a separate screen you can pull up in battle to check the status of everyone. I did the whole thing in 2D for the same reason and I don't remember this being a hindrance, I feel like there was definitely an indicator for statuses but off the top of my head I couldn't say what it was  The bigger issue I found was monster names not changing colour to indicate health left making it an exercise in guesswork/remembering all your past attacks on where to prioritise your next attacks.
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The worst parts of DQB2 were when the inner voice text shows up that goes away in the time it takes to make a moderately stacked sandwich and then Malroth has a back and forth conversation with it forcing you to advance dialogue every three minutes.
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If someone figures out how to mod that on PC they will be a god.
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Famitsu is doing a survey about DQ11 for international fans, I imagine some devs and people at S-E will at least see it. https://s.famitsu.com/news/201912/11188695.html It's going to be over in just a couple of days so don't put off responding if you want to. Good chance to let them know how you feel about Sugiyama. Also an opportunity to let them know about any games you'd like to see released internationally, like maybe DQ10 or DQM. When all the new Mana stuff was being announced a while ago it came out in interviews that people at S-E had no idea the rest of the world was ever even interested in Seiken 3. lets hang out fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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