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OwlFancier posted:Do we have an official source for that because as far as I know they're scrapping it because it's unfair. Which I agree with. Yeah Labour are scrapping it. The counter point to the complaint about that is things like free prescriptions, cheaper rail, eventually free broadband, free dental checkups, raise in minimum wage etc etc means they get far more back in their pocket than the MAXIMUM 250 quid they'd lose. This is where the bullshit "Labour are going to tax people on 20 grand a year" is coming from. e: I normally skip over angel numbers when Googling for a snipe but gently caress it Angel Number 102 posted:Number 102 is made up of the vibrations and qualities of number 1, number 0 and number 2. Number 1 promotes changes, new beginnings and ventures, ambition and tenacity, self-leadership and assertiveness, uniqueness and individuality, ambition and will power. Number 0 relates to eternity and infinity, oneness and wholeness, continuing cycles and flow, and the beginning point. Number 0 stands for potential and/or choice, and is a message to do with developing one’s spiritual aspects and is considered to represent the beginning of a spiritual journey and highlights the uncertainties that may entail. Number 0 suggests that you listen to your intuition and higher-self as this is where you will find your answers. Number 0 also amplifies and magnifies the energies of the numbers it appears with making them more powerful and influential. Number 2 resonates with the energies of faith and trust, diplomacy and co-operation, relationships and partnerships, intuition and insight, service and duty, and your Divine life purpose and soul mission. 
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Junkenstein posted:What are some good examples of parts of the NHS that have already been privatised, to counter the 'if tories wanted to sell the NHS they would have done it by now' bullshit? infection rates shot up when they outsourced the cleaning services
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Junkenstein posted:What are some good examples of parts of the NHS that have already been privatised, to counter the 'if tories wanted to sell the NHS they would have done it by now' bullshit? just had to travel 2 hours into london to see a specialist for my son's autism, and it's a private clinic because the local nhs place is so understaffed we got shipped out here because otherwise the wait would have been 18 months to 2 years rather than the year or so we already had to wait Last ultrasound I had, I could have gone to a private place for them to bill the nhs a bunch rather than the local hospital The entire phlebotomy department at the local hospital is run by a private firm Paying firms to provide services the nhs should be covering themselves cheaper
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DesperateDan posted:just had to travel 2 hours into london to see a specialist for my son's autism, and it's a private clinic because the local nhs place is so understaffed we got shipped out here because otherwise the wait would have been 18 months to 2 years rather than the year or so we already had to wait My fiancee is a phlebotomist, they have to provide their own stationery.
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:So I'm taking to someone who just tried to use Corbyn scrapping the married tax allowance as a gotcha, because it'll affect lower income couples. Any advice on what to reply with?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Marriage is a bourgeois decadence, comrade. I'm still marrying my fiancee  7 year old's new favourite song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFu0o8NB5Io
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Thanks for the advice everyone! Also Labour's Facebook just posted this: https://action.labour.org.uk/page/content/personal-manifesto/ Seems like a great way to make their policies relatable
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Pochoclo posted:PS What's a good charity to donate to that helps the homeless and doesn't have some monstrous dark secret? Where do you live? There are usually front-line charities/orgs like soup kitchens that never have enough money to do what they need to. With xmas coming up they might be hosting an event which you could donate your money/time/food to that would help bring about a bit of Xmas spirit too. For instance, in Exeter instead of the usual food bank fare & jacket potatoes, we're getting a hog roast in and other goodies. Broxtowe is going red, no doubt in my mind.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I remember him, used to live in Cambridge and he seemed alright to me before becoming properly politically engaged. Am now quite pleased to see that he's gone from losing by 600 to 12000 to Labour, but did he do anything lovely as an individual? He was the other guy in the famous pic of Clegg holding up the pledge to vote against university fees, although he at least did vote against it. He was also pretty bad on benefits but honestly, the fact he stood by the Lib Dems propping up the Conservatives in coalition, keeping them in power to do all the things they now apologise for. Honestly, I didn't think I'd vote again after that crap, fortunately this thread and other people helped change my mind, and the chance for a proper left wing government seemed like something to aim for.
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Angepain posted:for some light entertainment, let's see daisy ridley consider the concept of privilege for apparently the first time in her life and not do very well at it I mean, I get it. The first time I was pointed to my privilege I hand-waved it because I'm working class mate, we get shat on all the time, but then you think about it a little and you go "yeah, actually I suppose as a white male there's a whole lot of poo poo I don't have to deal with that a woman does or a non-cis person or a darker skinned person" & then I got it. But until it's pointed out it's something you really won't have considered and so you'll probably deny it exists. Introspection isn't a natural state for most people until they are put a position to do it. Honestly, & I could be biased from my own experience here, but I think how you react a month or 6 months after having your privilege pointed out matters more than how you do out the very first time it is.
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Perhaps a hamster posted:lol, reminds me attending group therapy some years back and bringing up financial difficulties ('cause, surprise, they're not very conducive to a healthy state of mind) at one point; our (very middle-class, same as the rest of that group) counselor, after an awkward pause, tried recommending some budgeting apps. I had to explain I was actually pretty good at managing money when I had it; it's more the earning enough money to be able to afford a luxury of budgeting beyond "Rent, transport, then hope you have enough left over to feed yourself" that was the problem. Still remember everyone looking at me kinda uncomprehendingly. Was thinking this when I got locked out a few days ago. It cost me £65 to get in again. I was able to wave credit card about. Imagine if I'd been on UC or something - how the heck would I have done it. Same with any kind of extra unexpected expense, can completely knock your budget for six. Darth Walrus posted:They're not scrapping it, they're expanding it to other couples (civil partnerships and the like). It's a broader tax break, not a narrower one. To be fair that is not mentioned in 'the grey book' or elsewhere. As it is listed as a way of costing their manifesto, replacing it with a broader tax break doesn't in that context make sense. I get the point that the improvements elsewhere will more than make up for it, but as it stands that is not clear. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Dec 7, 2019 |
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RockyB posted:Bit tepid, tbh. Worth it if you've got nothing better to do I suppose. The BBC has posted a follow-up that admits that it was protesters, but the wording of the original is extremely strange. quote:Johnson event cancelled because of security concerns I used to work in journalism, and this really looks like they just published his initial shorthand notes without even developing them into an article. Took them 9 minutes to realise this wouldn't do 
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Bundy posted:My fiancee is a phlebotomist, they have to provide their own stationery. We had an audit by the NHS at my workplace, they were genuinely impressed that we could give them documents in plastic wallets, which they weren't allowed to buy in themselves.
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Jose posted:its the reason my parents got married lol loving hell, mine too I bet they're gonna complain about it next time I see them. I shall ask exactly how much it cost them 
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Braggart posted:loving hell, mine too Ask them after the election please
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Bundy posted:My fiancee is a phlebotomist, they have to provide their own stationery. Clearly phlebotomy is failing, so we should go back to the good old days of using leeches.  Pictured: a leech
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So we made it to canvassing but Labour just took us to streets they canvassed this morning, it's such a shitshow
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Tigey posted:Ask them after the election please Yes, that's the plan. I see them as infrequently as possible, so it will definitely be some time in 2020. Should give them time to calm down and stop rending their clothes when Jezza wins too
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Rarity posted:So we made it to canvassing but Labour just took us to streets they canvassed this morning, it's such a shitshow A lot of local Labour Party branches are used to 4 or 5 people turning up to canvass, and suddenly they have 40 or 50. I've had to take over organising a couple of times to keep things moving. There are also more young activists than I've ever seen before. Normally I'm the youngest one in the room at 40, but this election I've often been one of the oldest.
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Angepain posted:for some light entertainment, let's see daisy ridley consider the concept of privilege for apparently the first time in her life and not do very well at it Perfectly happy that Ridley is having to confront her privilege, but the framing of the tweet is weird. “This is what happens when you challenge someone in an interview and not defer to their press release” and it’s not a politician, it’s an actress in a kid’s movie who was bullied off of social media.
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I have had a rediculously busy 3 weeks and didn't turn out for election stuff today so you guys are making me feel a lot better for my lack of action.
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Trevor Hale posted:Perfectly happy that Ridley is having to confront her privilege, but the framing of the tweet is weird. “This is what happens when you challenge someone in an interview and not defer to their press release” and it’s not a politician, it’s an actress in a kid’s movie who was bullied off of social media. Celebrities aren't real people.
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Rarity posted:They tried us on a third board and they were already done as well lol I would imagine a lot of people just turned up rather than RSVPing so it's hard for them to know how many to expect.
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First batch of 'I'm Dreaming Of A Red Christmas' is cooling and hardening as I speak. From a cheeky lick of the spoon during clean up I'm feeling very excited as to how it will turn out. 
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Jose posted:curious placement and imagine if it was labour investigating 3 candidates for antisemitism And the third accused a journalist of being more loyal to Israel than the UK... the journalist was Melanie Phillips.  
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Azza Bamboo posted:oh my god that hat.  I hope the hat inspires you, friend
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With regards to optimism and election results, I always think that socialism is a process. There will always be another fight, another struggle, another reactionary tendency to counter, another issue that needs a solution. Whether we win or lose or draw, we must retain optimism because the job isn’t over. We all have to fight every day - occupy every space, champion the ideals and practice of socialism and hold everyone to account. From each to their ability holds true for all comrades all the time. Keep the faith, keep fighting, keep voting, keep looking after yourself and each other.
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Him shook https://twitter.com/hannahITV/status/1203336121368928257
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:Ergo calling Musk a pedo isn't defamation, right?  OwlFancier posted:I would not say from experience that pessimism makes bad things less unpleasant, I still feel like poo poo afterwards, and before, and during, and all the rest of the time.
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Look chaps! If I place the ball between my shoulder and my ear – and I'm the goalie, I'm allowed to use my hands to do that – then I can simply walk into the opposing goal! *gets knocked over like a child in front of a Bozza*
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Braggart posted:Look chaps! If I place the ball between my shoulder and my ear – and I'm the goalie, I'm allowed to use my hands to do that – then I can simply walk into the opposing goal! The Prime Minister displayed a unique interpretation of the rules of football on the campaign trail today, with some critics saying that his unorthodox goal should be ruled out...
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My friend is worrying about a Labour government, because the house she'll inherit when her parents die is worth over 450k. Her parents are both voting Tory because of the marriage tax allowance thing, inheritance tax and because "We don't like corbyn" She's also disabled and waking up with panic attacks at 5am to write letters to the dwp begging they don't take her money away. Most of her family is disabled. She has a court appeal next week. It's weird.
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Jose posted:curious placement and imagine if it was labour investigating 3 candidates for antisemitism It now doesn't appear at all on the UK news, politics, or election pages. It only shows on Most Viewed. It's so loving blatant.
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mycomancy posted:Celebrities aren't real people. I feel sorry for celebrities that are trying to be good because it really is easy to accidentally do bad poo poo if you just don't think about it and have loads of people around you who tell you "no it's fine, don't worry about it, be a poo poo".
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Nettle Soup posted:My friend is worrying about a Labour government, because the house she'll inherit when her parents die is worth over 450k. Her parents are both voting Tory because of the marriage tax allowance thing, inheritance tax and because "We don't like corbyn" "Is the difference in inheritance tax going to solve all the problems you current face through lack of social support?"
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