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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Best wishes for your bairn zalakwe.

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Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

I want to believe

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

This election is going to be massively unpredictable. We have the Brexit party only standing in certain seats, Momentum/Labour have been targeting activists and resources far more into marginals, the weather's going to be poo poo, and voter registration is sky high.

It's not over, at least until the exit poll drops...

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Hope your kid's OK Zalakwe.


In other news, another famous comrade:

https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1202721830420860928?s=20

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




jabby posted:

It's not over, at least until the exit poll drops...

And EVEN THEN...

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

jabby posted:

It's not over, at least until the exit poll drops...

Even then, 1992!

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Zalakwe posted:

I'm anxious because my wee one is in hospital.

She's only two weeks old but is a bit fevered and struggling with her breathing. It's likely a viral thing but they're now a bit worried it could be bacterial and ate prepping her for antibiotics. Doing bloods literally right now in what is likely one of the best children's units in the world.

I'm pretty sure I am well off income wise in terms of the thread average although I would hardly be paying more tax under Labour. I would though. They could slap 50% on my national insurance to resource the NHS and I would pay it gladly.

This election result looks touch and go at best to me right now and we might never solve all our problems with politics. But while there is still hope for a better tomorrow we have a moral duty to take it to these arrogant wreckers, who trade lives to serve their own ambitions, on every front.

Sorry about your daughter and hope she will be ok.


Re fake Corbyn on twitter - how do you get a blue tick if you're a fake?

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Thanks folks. I'm going to try to go to bed because sitting dwelling on it isn't helping.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Re fake Corbyn on twitter - how do you get a blue tick if you're a fake?

You get a blue tick for other reasons and then you change your username.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Sorry about your daughter and hope she will be ok.


Re fake Corbyn on twitter - how do you get a blue tick if you're a fake?

They had the blue tick from before, then changed their account name

IMO if you have a blue tick, a name change should go through a manual validation process

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Pochoclo posted:

They had the blue tick from before, then changed their account name

IMO if you have a blue tick, a name change should go through a manual validation process

This is, by the way, what helped the tories pretend to be a legitimate fact-checking operation during the first debate

This has been happening for ages in varyingly serious contexts but they don't seem to give a gently caress about fixing it, or any other of the ways their site is terrible

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

I was trying to find that picture of Corbyn holding up a tesco bag full of cans but I gave up.


But, but ... she was 16. As a 55 year old this is perfectly acceptable.

Preemptively pouring one out for that guy's blue tick. Also Johnson is more than 20 years younger than Corbyn, yet somehow looks older. That's karma!

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




Angepain posted:

This has been happening for ages in varyingly serious contexts but they don't seem to give a gently caress about fixing it, or any other of the ways their site is terrible

If only lowtax had answered my email offering help with the forums software catastrophe, we'd have no need for twitter by now

the comment or commentariat autofeeder would take care of twitter mining

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

RockyB posted:


Also Johnson is more than 20 years younger than Corbyn, yet somehow looks older. That's karma!

Corbyn is not a near-octogenarian. But yeah Jòris is hosed

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Huh, Jezza is only 70. For some reason I had him down at late 70s.

Maybe that's because Bernie Sanders is 78. Or, y'know, the whole magic jam granddad thing.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Zalakwe posted:

I'm anxious because my wee one is in hospital.

She's only two weeks old but is a bit fevered and struggling with her breathing. It's likely a viral thing but they're now a bit worried it could be bacterial and ate prepping her for antibiotics. Doing bloods literally right now in what is likely one of the best children's units in the world.

I'm pretty sure I am well off income wise in terms of the thread average although I would hardly be paying more tax under Labour. I would though. They could slap 50% on my national insurance to resource the NHS and I would pay it gladly.

This election result looks touch and go at best to me right now and we might never solve all our problems with politics. But while there is still hope for a better tomorrow we have a moral duty to take it to these arrogant wreckers, who trade lives to serve their own ambitions, on every front.

Best of luck to your wee bairn, sounds like she's in the best possible hands though :unsmith:

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Angepain posted:

there was a bar just off Glasgow Central station that for a long time advertised "sexy food" in its window. I never had the guts to go in and discover what exactly "sexy food" involved. a panini with a little bikini on, perhaps

Paninis

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
I'm still thinking about 'binini' and chuckling to myself and I'm not even drunk.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

jabby posted:

This election is going to be massively unpredictable. We have the Brexit party only standing in certain seats, Momentum/Labour have been targeting activists and resources far more into marginals, the weather's going to be poo poo, and voter registration is sky high.

It's not over, at least until the exit poll drops...

what actually makes the exit poll so traditionally accurate? like all polls I have never been asked who I voted for afterwards and neither has anyone I know.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

ThomasPaine posted:

what actually makes the exit poll so traditionally accurate? like all polls I have never been asked who I voted for afterwards and neither has anyone I know.

every other poll is aspirational, exit polls are observational. you aren't polling what people think they may vote you're polling a fixed event.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




ThomasPaine posted:

what actually makes the exit poll so traditionally accurate? like all polls I have never been asked who I voted for afterwards and neither has anyone I know.

It's a big sample across a big sample of constituencies done right after the vote so people remember how they voted.

e: plus what Coolcab said.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Yeah other polls ask a number of people stuff including how likely they are to vote, and then apply "weightings" to adjust the numbers based on how likely they actually are to vote based on some combination of their responses, their age, etc. etc.

Exit polling you don't need to do that, you just need to ask enough people, and you know they've actually voted.

Can still get it wrong mind.

Perhaps a hamster
Jun 15, 2010


Bundy posted:

It's a big sample across a big sample of constituencies done right after the vote so people remember how they voted.

I like the implication of some voters being so undecided they can't even remember who they voted for the minute they get more than a few feet away from the polling station.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

Perhaps a hamster posted:

I like the implication of some voters being so undecided they can't even remember who they voted for the minute they get more than a few feet away from the polling station.
I'm presuming there's some overlap with the bloc of Lifelong Labour Voters who're voting Tory for the very first time in 2019, because they could never ever vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Ah yeah, it's obvious when I stop to think for a moment.

Perhaps a hamster posted:

I like the implication of some voters being so undecided they can't even remember who they voted for the minute they get more than a few feet away from the polling station.

One of the reasons I'm leery of compulsive voting and even those 'it doesn't matter who for just make sure you vote!' pleas is that I can quite easily see people associating the act with moral virtue rather than who exactly they vote for, and as a result going along despite doing no research and just crossing whatever drat box their pen hits first.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Dec 8, 2019

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



ThomasPaine posted:

Ah yeah, it's obvious when I stop to think for a moment.


One of the reasons I'm leery of compulsive voting and even those 'it doesn't matter who for just make sure you vote!' pleas is that I can quite easily see people associating the act with moral virtue rather than who exactly they vote for, and as a result going along despite doing no research and just crossing whatever drat box their pen hits first.

In fairness, whilst ITT we would take a different view, the foundation of modern liberal democracies does mean participating is seen as a Good thing by itself.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Personally I think the polls are still underestimating the youth turnout and have adjusted their weightings too little or not at all. My big brain prediction is that the pollsters think 2017 was a fluke, but we’ll actually see even more youth turnout than in 2017 and less elderly turnout as the pendulum finally loving swings from the young to the old being ‘politically homeless’.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

ThomasPaine posted:

just crossing whatever drat box their pen hits first.

this is already an observed effect even without compulsory voting, whoever happens to be listed on the ballot first consistently gets a small but measurable boost. it's why we randomize order iirc

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola

OwlFancier posted:

I will say I've gotten to enjoy several different varieties of estate design doing lettering, which dovetails nicely with a mild interest in urban planning coming off city builders.

I will also say that the weird snaking nested court/cul de sac design, while very nice for being sheltered and walkability, is a pain in the loving arse if you're delivering a hundred letters in sequence and the house numbers go in random loving runs in all directions.

I feel your pain. All of my bags were in those kooky interlocking courts and gardens arrayed around central fields with cuts and snickels shooting around in a kind of suburban mandala. A lot of the designs round there are quite pleasant, but I now feel horribly sorry for the posties. The first bag I would have been sunk without a bunch of kids on bikes who kept popping up to point me towards the right number. They'd clocked me haplessly wandering around trying to work out why I'd suddenly gone from 72 Snaketwist Gardens to 3 Theseus Court and showed a bit of socialist compassion in action. I thought I had a decent sense of direction!

By the end of the second bag though I'd somehow tuned in to the minds of the planners and was cruising through with only occasional 'gently caress's sake where's the letterbox? why is this the backs now?!?!' incidents. Think I might start organising my entire life around numerical chaos theory actually.

Shogi fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Dec 8, 2019

Rapacity
Sep 12, 2007
Grand
Always trust the kids. The kids know

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Wishing you and your little one all the best Zalakwe

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
But be sure not to cross the kids, as they also know the roads to send you down that lock you into the unending Labyrinth of Indistinguishable Suburbia, from which one can never escape

Perhaps a hamster
Jun 15, 2010


TACD posted:

My big brain prediction is that the pollsters think 2017 was a fluke, but we’ll actually see even more youth turnout than in 2017 and less elderly turnout as the pendulum finally loving swings from the young to the old being ‘politically homeless’.

Wouldn't it be nice if one day the worst of the oldies did actually find themselves politically homeless 'cause their horrible conservative racist opinions were considered so outdated there'd be no party representing them in the modern society?

Wouldn't it be nice.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Angepain posted:

https://twitter.com/HarryJosieGiles/status/1203409303736111104

it's definitely in the "I think i'm being inclusive but i'm actually showing my ignorance repeatedly" genre rather than the open-hatred genre, but it's still not great
gently caress's sake. When I was listening to the podcast and Nat was saying about the problems with trans representation, I was banging my head against the kitchen bench thinking "Seperate but equal is never loving equal."

By having different spaces for trans and afab women, all they're ensuring is that the funding for the trans only spaces starts at half that of the afab space, and conveniently disappears as the local councils handwring about having to prioritise.


Braggart posted:

Which crisps go best with beans up yer backside, thread?
What are those cone shaped ones you can put on your fingertips and pretend to be a monster?


HopperUK posted:

I'm still thinking about 'binini' and chuckling to myself and I'm not even drunk.
I tried conjugating it the other way but it came out a bit racist :smith:

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Dec 8, 2019

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
Solidarity Zalakwe, hope your bairn is ok

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




https://twitter.com/NinpoUK/status/1203502261231607808

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
More wee bairn love from me of course. Wait no gently caress not like that, I'm not Boris.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/07/millennials-manners-defence-mechanism-against-hostile-world

quote:

Not that stereotyping millennials as antisocial and selfish works. That recent cheering surge of last-minute electoral registering was said to mainly come from millennials. Moreover, in the Extinction Rebellion era, older people would have a drat nerve accusing the young of being disengaged.

Still, it’s intriguing that there’s a tendency among millennials to prioritise online etiquette over real-life manners. It would seem to reverse what’s generally presumed about online conduct – aren’t people supposed to feel emboldened to behave worse online? Maybe that’s tragic older types, who still haven’t managed to get over the novelty of the internet’s cloak of invisibility. In contrast, younger people take it so for granted they have developed a far greater sense of accountability for their online identities.

Certainly, it’s interesting to think that some younger humans prefer to exist in their most realised form in the online world, even developing better manners there. Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, they’re barging through queues, not opening doors and ambling around semi-detached, almost as though other people are made of pixels in the real world.

All of which is mystifying until you take a look at what comprises reality for many young folk. Millennials have plenty to feel disengaged about in a world where they’re been shafted out of real-life futures at every turn (economic, professional, climate, home-ownership, affording to have children, everything). Had all this been our lot when we were young, maybe we’d also have opted to be our better selves, living our best lives, in an online reality. While millennials should realise that they exist in the real, rather than virtual, world, older people need to realise that millennials are becoming dangerously detached from a world that keeps kicking them in the teeth.

Goddamn that is some strong boomer energy in the comment section. I guess the yoof are all off with their twatters and instagrumbles rather than commenting on the Graun.

So, who's watching what where on results night? I'm thinking Sky this time around, because they have Bercow and gently caress anything with Kuss'n'berg involved. ITV are offering the Johnson Brother, c4 are going for the dodgy comedy option.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

RockyB posted:

More wee bairn love from me of course. Wait no gently caress not like that, I'm not Boris.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/07/millennials-manners-defence-mechanism-against-hostile-world


Goddamn that is some strong boomer energy in the comment section. I guess the yoof are all off with their twatters and instagrumbles rather than commenting on the Graun.

So, who's watching what where on results night? I'm thinking Sky this time around, because they have Bercow and gently caress anything with Kuss'n'berg involved. ITV are offering the Johnson Brother, c4 are going for the dodgy comedy option.

We're doing a podcast livestream, details will be forthcoming

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the guy who was racist at the manchester derby has been doxxed and would it shock you to know he has a squaddies against corbyn meme on his facebook page

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
love that channel 4 asked this man about corbyn's antisemitism

https://twitter.com/yaakovkatz/status/1203500441503449089

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