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Pesmerga posted:I’m finding something optimism and to get me out of hope at the ballot box, so I’m channeling my effort into something that will at least provide some help to those that need it. At this point I think despair at the state of British politics is almost necessary, because it reinforces how badly the forces of capital are aligned against us, and why we need to look for other solutions than worrying about the next election. Because even if we get a larger number of seats than the Conservatives, this environment isn’t going to just disappear. If things don't go well on Thursday then you can be miserable after. Until then descending into despair is only going to help the Tories. They want you miserable and demoralised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuKaTuk_lw Fully expect Part II of this on Friday.
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I can't believe you fixed horseshoe theory!  Bobby Deluxe posted:What makes me angry enough to be awake before 11am is that he's a very intelligent guy (probably moreso than me in most areas), and he's still been swayed by the Libs plastering dodgy bar charts everywhere. Christ knows what the rest of town is thinking. I'm not angry at him, I'm angry at the loving Libs. This probably won't make you feel better, but I'm coming to understand that being very intelligent doesn't mean you have an unlimited attention span; even if you have the ability to think about things critically, you still have to choose to do that. I was talking to my sister last week, and while she's someone I think of as smart and switched on, her take on GE 2019 is "they're all as bad as each other" because she'd uncritically swallowed the "Corbyn is an antisemite" line from the news. The bright spot in this is she identified it as a story from last year, so I'm choosing to believe she just hasn't been paying attention lately (tbf she does have a new baby). She also seemed open to my suggestion that the ownership of the papers might have been a factor in that story, and couldn't actually identify any specific example of antisemitism when asked. I doubt I've convinced her to vote Labour this time, but at least I can't see her going CON or LD. Anyway this was a long post to say, keep trying! Even if you can't shift him in time for this election, it's still worth it!
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Gonzo McFee posted:Anne Widcombe with her ankles behind her ears, ready to give it up for Brexit, getting her fanny like a chlorinated chicken straight from the can absolutely torn up by Jacob Rees Moggs in a full gimp suit, only recognisable because his nanny sits patiently in the corner of the room reading Nigel Farage's autobiography aloud. Gonzo, can you please not post this poo poo? It's a gross way to talk about women of any age.
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Whether we do it after a loss or we do it later because Corbyn got old, we'll have to replace Corbyn some time. It's pretty clear, though, that if he's replaced with another left progressive candidate they'll just roll out all the same arguments. If they can't find any dirt they'll just remind you that they were part of Corbyn's cabinet, a friend of Corbyn, and are just like him. They will stop at nothing to get a centrist fart like Harman or Kendall into the seat so that we have that American scenario of choosing between two establishment governments.
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Necrothatcher posted:If things don't go well on Thursday then you can be miserable after. Until then descending into despair is only going to help the Tories. They want you miserable and demoralised. I wish it was that easy not to be. As it stands, I’m currently awaiting an appointment to see whether I’m suffering from depression.
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Rarity posted:Gonzo, can you please not post this poo poo? It's a gross way to talk about women of any age. I also didn't need to picture Rees mogg in a full gimp suit
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Thanks some of this has helped. Thankfully I already voted anyway so no problem on that front.Braggart posted:Weetman break until after the election I can't, it's a disease.
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ThomasPaine posted:
Can you please stop inflicting this utter intelligence vacuum onto the rest of us, this is violence
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How do the pollers figure out who to contact anyway? Cos I figure the new registrations presumably aren't on the list?
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Bundy posted:Can you please stop inflicting this utter intelligence vacuum onto the rest of us, this is violence I'm sorry my mind is broken and I have no control over my own posting
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ThomasPaine posted:That survation poll has really thrown me lads and I'm dangerously close to despair. Someone please provide a reassuring counterpoint... 
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Jose posted:This whole twitter thread E: For the purposes of this pep talk I am somewhat generously counting myself as a ‘kid’ TACD fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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the shipping forecast last night was quite something, "warnings of gales in all areas except Trafalgar"
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Sanford posted:Sorry to distract from election chat, need some advice. We’ve had a request from the local college for a guy with autism and severe anxiety to visit us, mainly because our office is within spitting distance of the campus building he attends. I’ve volunteered to take care of things because I happened to see the ‘agenda’ and the only thing on it was “walk round and meet everyone” so I thought I better step in, but it’s really not an area I have any expertise in. I know there’s lots of people in here with experience with this kind of thing so just looking for any general advice. He’s expressed an interest in learning how software is made, seeing how computers work and can be repaired, and learning how people work together in a team. On my agenda I’ve got: Could you find a meeting room with neutral colours that’s segregated from the rest of the place, and control access for the duration of the visit? Can print off some paper signs to reroute people away.
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Also for those feeling the effects of the polls, reminder that the press had been full gently caress Labour mode for the council and EU Parl elections and we still won the Peterborough by-election with an increase in vote share.
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Three days from a Labour government, lads. Hope everyone has already picked out a millionaire's house to loot.
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Doccykins posted:the shipping forecast last night was quite something, "warnings of gales in all areas except Trafalgar" I honestly thought my roof was going to be torn off at around 3-4 am.
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Sanford posted:Sorry to distract from election chat, need some advice. We’ve had a request from the local college for a guy with autism and severe anxiety to visit us, mainly because our office is within spitting distance of the campus building he attends. I’ve volunteered to take care of things because I happened to see the ‘agenda’ and the only thing on it was “walk round and meet everyone” so I thought I better step in, but it’s really not an area I have any expertise in. I know there’s lots of people in here with experience with this kind of thing so just looking for any general advice. He’s expressed an interest in learning how software is made, seeing how computers work and can be repaired, and learning how people work together in a team. On my agenda I’ve got: I have autism and can speak of my own experiences and needs. They may not map perfectly to his, but can maybe help you understand the condition a bit. If it was me, it would be unwise to take me into loud and crowded spaces. Look at them through windows or door windows, and if I say I want to go inside, then it's okay. Don't take me into the middle of the room. Sound coming from all around me is disorienting and messes me up. Walls and corners are good. Speaking from in front of me is best, and people should avoid shouting like foghorns when speaking to me. Don't have loads of new people come up and talk directly to me, it can get overwhelming. I won't necessarily be up for handshakes, and especially not endless ones with people I don't know. Try not to spring surprises on me, I'm not built for that. It generally takes me a little time to absorb something new and unexpected. Let me lead when it comes to when I'm comfortable moving on and when I need a break. Check in about that, and try not to assume anything. Stick around to the end of the tour if you can. Don't hand me off to others if you can help it, and don't leave me alone in an unfamiliar environment (a quiet room for resting excepted - in that case being alone is beneficial for me). This experience will tire me out, and I'll run out of energy to continue at some point. If that happens, I need to stop. Make sure everyone respects that. Good on you for offering to help 
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Guess this is why most of the Lymington-Yarmouth ferries are cancelled today, though they're usually cancelled in a light breeze
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ThomasPaine posted:That survation poll has really thrown me lads and I'm dangerously close to despair. Someone please provide a reassuring counterpoint... According to the Corbyn Twitter slightly above 4 million people registered, compared with just above 3 the last time around. Indicates higher turnout, no? Who are they enthusiastic to vote for? Maybe people just hate squirrels? Or the Tories tapped into their strategic gammon reserves, sealed in an abandoned part of the London subway and untouched since the Blitz? genericnick fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:Anyway this was a long post to say, keep trying! Even if you can't shift him in time for this election, it's still worth it! Fight the good fight folks, wherever you can, however you can. I can't influence people much, but if I can turn him, his missus has a fairly popular YouTube channel, so maybe I can butterfly effect a change?
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Anyone reckon we're due another document leak from Labour today or tomorrow? The way the media have been going heavy on Russia over the last few days makes me think the Tories are worried Labour have the Russian interference report.
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If a poll suggests a tory vote above 43% it can be discarded immediately. If it suggests a vote above 40% it's probably dodgy but not immediately so. The tories are not getting any more people to vote for them this time around than they did last time. It's all about turnout. The under 50s turn up to vote then the country is red.
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ThomasPaine posted:That survation poll has really thrown me lads and I'm dangerously close to despair. Someone please provide a reassuring counterpoint... The only numbers that matter will be the final tally of votes. The rest is so much augury and haruspicy.
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Pesky Splinter posted:The only numbers that matter will be the final tally of votes. The rest is so much augury and haruspicy. Oh yeah usually I'd agree, it's just that survation were very very accurate last time. I'm wondering whether it may have gone to their heads...
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Someone told me this thread is taking the black pill this morning. First of all the black pill should mean ANARCHY. Second of all I feel ya, it's nerve-wracking as we are now 96 hours away from socialism or barbarism. But now is the time to hold steady. Whatever comes we must be ready to face it and I dare not get my hopes up too high, but I will not allow myself to let my hopes be pushed down. That's what those Tory cunts want us to do. So pick your sads from the floor and throw them into the bin. Cheer the gently caress up. e: lmao I mean black pill the second time I typed it out, not black people Tesseraction fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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ThomasPaine posted:Oh yeah usually I'd agree, it's just that survation were very very accurate last time. I'm wondering whether it may have gone to their heads... See: Silver, Nate.
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ThomasPaine posted:Oh yeah usually I'd agree, it's just that survation were very very accurate last time. I'm wondering whether it may have gone to their heads... Dunno how accurate this guy is (Jose posted him also talking about polls), but they reckon they've changed their methodology: https://twitter.com/centrist_phone/status/1203962181194321920
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Pesky Splinter posted:The only numbers that matter will be the final tally of votes. The rest is so much augury and haruspicy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-dButYcv14
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genericnick posted:According to the Corbyn Twitter slightly above 4 million people registered, compared with just above 3 the last time around. Indicates higher turnout, no? Who are they enthusiastic to vote for? Maybe people just hate squirrels? Or the Tories tapped into their strategic gammon reserves, sealed in an abandoned part of the London subway and untouched since the Blitz? https://twitter.com/centrist_phone/status/1203719521443426307?s=19 Whole thread is good and promotes a more optimistic outlook on polls.
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I have to agree with this, the polls say the tories are winning. Yet boris is jeered wherever they go. Corbin is weak, yet hes met like a loving rockstar. We may win. We may not, but the feeling is now they are trying to fake it til they make it.
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Guavanaut posted:You forgot alectryomancy and also Holy poo poo the Simpsons predicted the Libdem's future!  (Also was totally expecting a Silent Hill, Gyromancy)
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"The Left says, 2 times 2 are 4; the Right, 2 times 2 are 6; and the Juste-milieu says, 2 times 2 are 5". Bakunin was good. (Well except for in the areas where he wasn't. Like antisemitism)Tesseraction posted:Someone told me this thread is taking the black pill this morning. First of all the black people should mean ANARCHY. Second of all I feel ya, it's nerve-wracking as we are now 96 hours away from socialism or barbarism. The "black pill" nonsense really drives me up the wall. Like, loving hell, black pill means something exceptionally dumb and if anyone in UKMT was actually a black piller they'd not last a day before being driven out. It comes from the rampant misogyny of the incel mob. It doesn't just mean "being a pessimist or prone to a negative outlook". I'd also point out it's entirely possible to be down about the potential result for whatever reason & still go out & work to make sure what you dread doesn't come to pass.
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forkboy84 posted:The "black pill" nonsense really drives me up the wall. Like, loving hell, black pill means something exceptionally dumb and if anyone in UKMT was actually a black piller they'd not last a day before being driven out. It comes from the rampant misogyny of the incel mob. It doesn't just mean "being a pessimist or prone to a negative outlook". Yeah correct, I know they mean "abandoning all hope" but its ties to the nazincel crowd is part of why I say don't use it.
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