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Best Friends posted:Imagine being a cop and literally hiding behind a civilian in a gunfight. How many blue lives matter memes does it take to melt your brain enough that that seems okay Literally gonna remember this poo poo for the next time I hear some rear end in a top hat spout off the "sheepdog" speech.
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Someone photoshop this to replace the emblem with a bystander's minivan, tia. 
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Handsome Ralph posted:Literally gonna remember this poo poo for the next time I hear some rear end in a top hat spout off the "sheepdog" speech. I thought the sheepdog thing was a justification for police brutality, ie it's ok for a few sheep to get killed by sheepdogs if it keeps the whole flock from being eaten. Pretty sure anyone who believes that poo poo will be OK with this murder.
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If a sheepdog hurts one of its sheep you put it down. If a cop does it you give him vacation
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Fister Roboto posted:I thought the sheepdog thing was a justification for police brutality, ie it's ok for a few sheep to get killed by sheepdogs if it keeps the whole flock from being eaten. first, I hate the loving sheepdog speech because my neighbors aren't sheep, they're people. however, I recall one paragraph about how if a sheepdog turns on the sheep it must be put down without mercy to reiterate: I loving hate, hate, hate that loving sheepdog essay and even worse are the guys with "wolfhunter" shirts thank god I didnt and don't have to deal with that stupid poo poo for most of my career by virtue of the fact I worked in serious units who didn't have time for fuckin losers edit: suck a dick Grossman quote:The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours. Also the plural of anecdote is not data, but an informal survey of everyone in my current unit is that the Miami shootout was criminally negligent. "I don't recall being trained to take cover behind civilians" and "what the gently caress" were the top two most common comments Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I thought the sheepdog thing was a justification for police brutality, ie it's ok for a few sheep to get killed by sheepdogs if it keeps the whole flock from being eaten. Nah, every time I've heard it, it's pushed as "We're sheepdogs because we protect the sheep from the wolves! Sheepdogs don't hurt sheep or needlessly put them in danger" and yet... Internet Wizard posted:If a sheepdog hurts one of its sheep you put it down. If a cop does it you give him vacation Pretty much. Smiling Jack posted:edit: suck a dick Grossman
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Serious question: what purpose do motorcycle cops serve? I can't think of anything other than possibly highway patrol in low traffic areas, and even that is questionable. Limited capacity, no significant upgrade to range or speed, possibly maneuverability? Europe makes more sense than the US since so many of the roads are so much narrative, I just don't get it in Texas.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Serious question: what purpose do motorcycle cops serve? Writing tickets. Seriously, expressly.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Serious question: what purpose do motorcycle cops serve? It's a way of identifying cops who would rather generate revenue than do real policing, and then vectoring them into a position where they can do it in the most personally dangerous way possible. In my old dept, patrol units would generally give verbal warnings unless the driver had a warrant or was driving absurdly dangerously, but good luck if a motors unit stopped you. Those guys would write for everything. In theory, the motorcycle unit could better pursue under challenging road conditions, but in practice, the dept only pursued if there were no other cars on the road, because the risk of causing a bystander to crash wouldn't be worth nabbing someone for the gun/drugs/warrant they were running from.
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we complained about cops being little more than revenue generation and instead they became death squads just cant win here
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Proud Christian Mom posted:we complained about cops being little more than revenue generation and instead they became death squads Sometimes the pendulum swings and kills an innocent bystander or two.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Serious question: what purpose do motorcycle cops serve? I can't think of anything other than possibly highway patrol in low traffic areas, and even that is questionable. Limited capacity, no significant upgrade to range or speed, possibly maneuverability? Europe makes more sense than the US since so many of the roads are so much narrative, I just don't get it in Texas. Tickets. In California the CHP can use them to actually respond to accidents because our congestion is loving terrible. But still, they're there to write tickets.
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Tickets, ceremonies, funerals, motorcades Those are all they are useful for.
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I got pulled over in Daytona by a bike cop. Bicycle, that is.
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Chichevache posted:Tickets. In California the CHP can use them to actually respond to accidents because our congestion is loving terrible. But still, they're there to write tickets. Pretty sure Ponch and Jon did more than that. No, wait, all that other stuff was off duty or station hi-jinks. Man, even on TV, motorcycle cops just do tickets and accidents.
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I knew a bicycle cop in the guard that would catch college kids with drugs and then coerce them into the guard by looking the other way so he could collect the referral bonus. He retired as a cop and from the guard, a couple kids died.
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MonkeyWash posted:I knew a bicycle cop in the guard that would catch college kids with drugs and then coerce them into the guard by looking the other way so he could collect the referral bonus. He retired as a cop and from the guard, a couple kids died. 
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Yo what gives with you shitlord cops flashing your lights to get to the taco shop 20 seconds faster?
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Shooting Blanks posted:Serious question: what purpose do motorcycle cops serve? I can't think of anything other than possibly highway patrol in low traffic areas, and even that is questionable. Limited capacity, no significant upgrade to range or speed, possibly maneuverability? Europe makes more sense than the US since so many of the roads are so much narrative, I just don't get it in Texas. In the Netherlands it's escorting ambulances and cycling races and other events. Lots of accident response. Aside from a small national level squad of dedicated riders, each department must maintain a minimum pool of motorcyclist for event security. These are additional specialisations for regular officers and very sought after with multi year waiting lists. They then have the option of also doing their regular surveillance work on the bike when they feel like it. https://i.imgur.com/rrHWKUl.gifv
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Smiling Jack posted:
Cool so do you have any nifty insider info about why it’s always the case that when poo poo like this happens no one suffers any consequences? Love to hear some cool stories about life on the force.
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Can't fail to meet training standards when you don't get training. In reality, I cant, american police departments are subject to wildly different laws, training standards, department cultures and discipline procedures even if they're adjacent departments. I really have no idea how those responding agencies are trained or what type of oversight they have. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Is grey sweatshirt using his cuffs like a shield to ID himself?
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call of duty cosplay is getting out of hand
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Of all the poo poo I've seen cops do, this is pretty ok. I'd rather they show up wearing jeans than decked out like they're assaulting Falujeh.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:
They're the same people most of the time 
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Are we really making GBS threads on them for showing up ASAP? I feel like if the response had been to drive somewhere, change, and then respond to the shooting in a uniform acceptable to this thread they'd be shat on for not caring about a jewish deli.
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Between the two groups I think it’s stupid to have that many people stacked on one wall.
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colachute posted:Between the two groups I think it’s stupid to have that many people stacked on one wall. you want to send some of them home or something?
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Chichevache posted:Are we really making GBS threads on them for showing up ASAP? I feel like if the response had been to drive somewhere, change, and then respond to the shooting in a uniform acceptable to this thread they'd be shat on for not caring about a jewish deli. they had time to throw on their tactical hat, merrell boots, designer jeans, plate carrier and their dope af AR but not enough time to shave or put on a single piece of clothing that made them look like anything resembling a cop and not a ghost recon wild lands character
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:they had time to throw on their tactical hat, merrell boots, designer jeans, plate carrier and their dope af AR but not enough time to shave or put on a single piece of clothing that made them look like anything resembling a cop and not a ghost recon wild lands character Oh look it's the fashion police "hey we are responding to a officer down and shots fired" "Ok get the heavy vest and rifle from the trunk" "Oh poo poo pull over we need to shave first as to not offend random assholes on the internet"
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Smiling Jack posted:you want to send some of them home or something?
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"your honor my clients killed several innocent people, yes, but are you aware the cops had dad jeans on" courtroom erupts in shock and outrage
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colachute posted:It has nothing to do with whether or not I like cops. cop tactics by the initial units are going to be lopsided, inefficient, and not to military standards, as it's literally "run towards the gunfire". Units that train together and use better tactics, like ESU and SWAT usually show up later. Patrol cops have been referred to as "blue canaries" in several trainings I've been to. They're expected to get shot.
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Smiling Jack posted:cop tactics by the initial units are going to be lopsided, inefficient, and not to military standards, as it's literally "run towards the gunfire". Ok, I think it is stupid for them to be lopsided and inefficient.
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Maybe the answer is deescalation.
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