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ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

feedmegin posted:

No stealing my schtick

hey take it up with trickjaw!

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:06

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# ? May 25, 2024 13:54

Vitamin P: Nov 19, 2013; Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

unwantedplatypus posted:

The cool thing about being American is that Jeremy Corbyn will be elected PM before I go to sleep tomorrow

I hope

He might be, he might not, it's a weird quantum thing that it kind of doesn't matter brainwise.

If the tories get a majority or get propped up by the Lib Dems then that sucks, it'll cause a lot of pointless pain, but if there wasn't a left-wing force in politics then that pain would have happened either way, it isn't mitigated by a different colour rosette being the cause. For the foreseeable future a political force for basic decency is going to face the same overwhelming establishment opposition so even if it loses tomorrow that's just an outcome of our grotesque power structure, you had to roll the hard 6 but didn't, it isn't a meaningful signifier so as someone said above the fight goes on.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:08

Debbie Does Dagon: Jul 8, 2005

Chuka Umana posted:

Is their anything they can do with a donation this late though?

Pay for the victory party

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:08

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

Chuka Umana posted:

Is their anything they can do with a donation this late though?

probably not but they can use it for the next general election in the spring

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:08

xtothez: Jan 4, 2004; College Slice

Chuka Umana posted:

Is their anything they can do with a donation this late though?

Pays for at least a couple of taxis full of momentum thugs I guess

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:09

team overhead smash: Sep 2, 2006; Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

jimmydalad posted:

I�m worried that blue Tories are going to win the constituency if yellows aren�t propped.

Not even a single constituency in the UK in the last 100 years has been decided by a single vote.

One of the goals we as supporters of Labour should be trying to achieve is the complete destruction of the Liberal Democrats, getting rid of a faux force of progressiveness which really just stands in the way of any real change from a socilist Labour majority government.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:09

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

xtothez posted:

Pays for at least a couple of taxis full of momentum thugs I guess

Don't those thugs ever take public transport?

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:10

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

team overhead smash posted:

Not even a single constituency in the UK in the last 100 years has been decided by a single vote.

One of the goals we as supporters of Labour should be trying to achieve is the complete destruction of the Liberal Democrats, getting rid of a faux force of progressiveness which really just stands in the way of any real change from a socilist Labour majority government.

There was one last election that was decided by two, iirc, so conceivably if one person went the opposite way, they could have had to resort to the coin flip.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:11

xtothez: Jan 4, 2004; College Slice

Failed Imagineer posted:

Don't those thugs ever take public transport?

Only once it's nationalised

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:11

team overhead smash: Sep 2, 2006; Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Chuka Umana posted:

Is their anything they can do with a donation this late though?

Yeah, there will be loads of digital ads ready and primed to go. It's simple enough to increase the budget for them so they're shown to more people.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:11

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

There was one last election that was decided by two, iirc, so conceivably if one person went the opposite way, they could have had to resort to the coin flip.

It's North East Fife, two votes in it between the SNP and the Lib Dems, with the SNP just edging it. One of my best pals from undergrad voted in it ~~for labour lol~~

e: also standing was the INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN DEMOCRATIC BRITAIN party, which with 224 votes won more than 100x the majority difference

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Dec 12, 2019

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:12

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

xtothez posted:

Only once it's nationalised

More like thugglic transport *hijacks First buses and places them in community hands*

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:12

Jrbg: May 20, 2014

God I hope labour win so much

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:12

Braggart: Nov 10, 2011; always thank the rock hider

Hey peeps, did you know we're an international inspiration?

SuperiorColliculus posted:

Hi Goons,

Longtime threadlurker first time poster: I'm a Kiwi but also a British citizen; turns out I'm moving to Ireland (ROI) in Feb (From the SF Bay Area in the US).

Please elect Labour and don't Brexit, thanks in advance

A Perfect Twist posted:

This is a post from Australia. Get out there and vote against Boris Johnson!!!

Do it ASAP! Get a bacon sandwich and a cosy tea while you are out to vote, make a day of it!

Boris Johnson is a loving fraud and has no business running England nor being anywhere near real power. The boosters, grifters and lobbyists supporting him are the only ones who will benefit from him winning. The rest of you will be hosed.

Get your friends in on it and vote Labor.

His Divine Shadow posted:

Some nervous couple of days ahead, even for me. I feel this election will not just determine the way ahead in the UK, but in the wider world, this election can show that you can win on a socialist plattform and could, I hope, galvanize our worthless left parties away from centrist consensus BS.

side_burned posted:

Agreed! I am way more emotionally invested in this election than an American should be and its becuse I feel the like the fates of Corbyn and Sanders are linked some how. Its incredibly irrational and nonsensical.

hump day bitches! posted:

This is a first test that a platform that is unambiguously leftist lead by someone who is unashamed of being a socialist can win.This is the only answer we have found to the rise of fascism and racial supremacy after the 2008 financial crisis and the austerity of the last 10 years. This is important as hell

LegendaryFrog posted:

Right there with you. Even with impeachment going on in Congress, all eyes of the American left are looking toward Corbyn these next couple of days. I'd love to see the UK set the template forward for the path out of right authoritarian decline (albeit through an incredibly messy and imperfect road to getting there.)

Gatts posted:

Yeah same

ZoninSilver posted:

More well wishings to you all from a Nordic country, no matter what happens it's been unreal to look at an election and dare feel hope for something other than tepid status-quo keeping. Best I've been able to do was argue with a british uncle who seemed interested in the Labour manifesto yet keeps posting dumb anti-labour/Corbyn poo poo. He's mostly ignored my rebuttals rather than argue, but last night I argued with him that if Corbyn somehow turns out as bad as he believes he is, it's just one man to remove from power and that's that, if Tories win and the NHS debacle turns out real, there's no bloody way to stop it since they're all in on it. I feel like that gave him pause, might never know if it made a difference, but I'll be very happy if I could make the tiniest possible difference over there

I don't feel like a similar movement is happening here anytime soon, but you've all made me a lot more aware and angry in a good way at things, and if an opportunity to become proper politically active springs up here, I have all of you to thank for it. It's a hell of an uphill battle, but gently caress 'em, we'll win it eventually.

Kreeblah posted:

Me, too.

gently caress, I really hope you folks can pull this off tomorrow. Having an actual leftist government over there would do wonders for dispelling the garbage "unelectable" myth.

That Italian Guy posted:

Don't lie to me again goons, not after Brexit and Trump!

Jokes asides, best of luck and goonspeed, Jam Grandad and all UK goons.

Orange Devil posted:

You and your wretched isles have done the impossible, you've given me hope. Just want to say thanks for that.

ShallNoiseUpon posted:

I mostly pay attention to UKPOL from afar because we have our own trash fire going on the US, but I'm really hoping for a Labour victory tomorrow. They're the only party and have the only leadership that seems to actually care about people and improving their material conditions, rather than serving corporate interests and the already wealthy and powerful. I hope a Corbyn victory can inspire and support movements globally and show that people have the power to finally say "enough is enough." Solidarity, UK goons.

Foul Ole Ron posted:

Oi you lot, good luck this week.

Tense nail biting stuff, but keep going, don't let the orphan hating bastards grind you down.

Pennfalath posted:

Good luck tomorrow from Belgium, everyone! Kick those Tory bastards out and show the world that running on and implementing a left, socialist programme can work!

Zedd posted:

Good luck from The Netherlands, Labour winning and a Bernie (or even Warren though less good) victory might shake things out of this downward spiral hopefully.

Pershing posted:

Regardless of what happens tomorrow I just want to thank the thread for giving this American resources to move towards socialism. Hoping there is something to celebrate in the returns tomorrow since it gives me a lot of hope in my own political action over here.

JosefStalinator posted:

Us Americans should go to sleep dreaming of the first Bernie-Corbyn summit

SpaceCadetBob posted:

This thread got me my awesome Av so I�ll definitely be hanging out in solidarity tomorrow! Good luck UKGoons.

Venomous posted:

Sending everyone in Britain itt my love and my hopes for a Labour government! Labour can and will win!

sean10mm posted:

Please gently caress up the tories, Britgoons.

Mokotow posted:

Hallo from Poland to you UK Goons. Even though my life has very little to do with the United Kingdom on a daily basis right now, I still follow this thread. I can�t help and notice the anxiety and fear about tomorrow here, and I just wanted to know I love y�all and your crazy island(s).

It sucks that we had to go through all this bullshit to get to this point. I would have preferred the Brexit referendum to not end with the result it did, doubly so since it was driven in a large part by anti-Polish sentiment. It sucks that the left is in disarray across the continent and Corbyn doesn�t have the tenacity to bin the referendum results, like the Tories have to hang on to the loving thing.

Me and my friends in the late 80�s and throughout the nineties grew up on British culture, and there�s a reason why so many Poles chose the UK as their new home when they came of age and their fresh capitalism-laden reality failed to give them a chance. One of the first things you read in elementary school is Wing 303, about Polish fighter pilots in the Battle of Britain. We grew up on Monty Python, Oasis vs. Blur, the Premier League, Madness, Pink Floyd, Terry Pratchett and loving Ray Cokes on MTV (you don�t have good taste when you�re 12).

It�s even more lovely that whenever I�d visit the UK after the referendum, I�d see mostly apathy from friends and colleagues, and I understand - we�re coming off of 20 years of wars, the internet was a loving mistake and the world, literally, is going to poo poo.

In all of this, I have high hopes - a landslide would be too much to expect I think, but the Tories will get a bloody nose, one way or another. If you feel lovely or anxious, remember there�s a whole continent out there with at least half of it, give or take, rooting for you leftie motherfuckers. Godspeed!

Priestly posted:

Non-UK lurker here, just popping in to say that I really hope Corbyn wins this loving thing. From my foreign perspective he's a very inspiring figure and rare source of hope in these dark days, and there's nothing that I'd love to see right now more than Boris crumbling into dust on live television.

Best of luck to you all.

Al-Saqr posted:

By all that is marx and holy I hereby declare with every last bit of humanity in me Jeremy Corbyn WILL be the next prime minister he WILL win. I don�t care what the polls say. I hope he wins so that laura keissenberg and all of those loving libs eat poo poo.

Bemused Observer posted:

Let me join in the international support, good luck from Poland!

TulliusCicero posted:

The difference is you guys were energized. We were not.

Your Bernie got the nomination. Ours did not.

Please show your dumb stupid racist child-country we can run a candidate like Corbyn and win UK goons! Show us we can end our nightmare!

Vote Labour

Lord Stimperor posted:

UK goons, godspeed tomorrow. UK labour is inspiring people all around Europe, and all of them are rooting for you.

Arabian Jesus posted:

Chiming in to wish all of you the best. Watching with high hopes from Canada

Gervasius posted:

Another non-UK goon lurker here, wish you guys best of luck tomorrow, and if when you get prime minister Jeremy Corbyn, hopefully this will inspire some genuine leftist movements in Europe.

Leandros posted:

I've been lurking this thread for over a year now and been using it as a source of news items to bombard my friends with. Godspeed with your friday morning hangovers, UK goons, whether out of celebration or grief. Nothing but the best of wishes from the Netherlands. May tomorrow spark a wave of socialism across the world.

unwantedplatypus posted:

The cool thing about being American is that Jeremy Corbyn will be elected PM before I go to sleep tomorrow

I hope

Sashimi posted:

Long time lurker from Canada wishing you all the very best tomorrow. It's heartening to see so much hope for a socialist party, even more heartening to see it all poured into hard work getting out the vote and spreading the message.

Senor Tron posted:

Good luck from Australia, I know the odds don't look good but fingers crossed you manage to pull it off and buck the hellworld voting trend we've all been on the last few years.

These posts are all from today alone, and we have had plenty of this throughout the election campaign. Our movement is giving hope to leftists worldwide. We are far from the only ones desperately hoping that we win this, and we are far from the only ones who believe that we will.

To everyone mucking in and helping with the election campaign efforts, you're amazing. To everyone offering support to others, even if only sympathy and encouragement, you're wonderful. To everyone who is scared, who desperately wants things to change, we love you, and you are awesome too. Together, we've got this.

And if you need more evidence that our movement is inspiring leftists around the world:

Politico posted:

Europe�s left looks to Jeremy Corbyn

After electoral batterings across the Continent, the social democrats and left-wing parties are desperately seeking a path to revival.

THE HAGUE � Traditional left-wing parties across Europe are searching for a savior.
Some believe his name is�Jeremy Corbyn.

...

Corbyn's U.K. tactics are now attracting the attention of other center-left parties across Europe, with interest coming from the Netherlands, Germany, Italy and France, according to people with knowledge of the contacts.

...

But the sight of enthused young people joining Labour in their tens of thousands is too good for European sister parties to ignore.

�We want to see why there�s a dynamic in the Labour Party with growing membership, the near result in 2017, and opinion polls. That�s interesting for the Labor Party in the Netherlands,� said Paul Tang, Dutch Labor�s leader in the European Parliament, who organized the event with Corbyn.

�You can�t just transpose one idea from one country to another, but still you can try to learn.�

...

Two figures that represent Labour�s internal revolution are 26-year-old activist Zeyn Mohammed and 21-year-old Beth Foster-Ogg. The latter plunged into politics as a teenage Momentum activist and now trains campaigners across the U.K. Mohammed splits his time between working in Corbyn�s London office and community organising in his native Scotland. This means listening to local people's day-to-day concerns and bringing Labour activists into grassroots campaigns on micro-issues like rent disputes or asylum cases. Mohammed is building a network of organisers to do the same across the U.K.

Together, they gave a campaigning masterclass to a packed audience of European activists in The Hague, coaching them on how to win over voters on the doorstep. Sharing a personal motivation � such as being driven to campaign because a friend could not access healthcare � is more effective on the doorstep than appeals based on policy, Foster-Ogg argued.

Anton Fleig, a 19-year-old recent high school graduate from Germany, said he had been inspired by Foster-Ogg to get into politics. "Corbyn, Momentum and the Labour Party is the successful example of Europe, how to renew a party and make good politics for ordinary people," Fleig said.

Idealism versus pragmatism

The appeal of Corbynism is one side of a debate happening in left-leaning movements around the world, about whether to appeal to the political center, where elections are traditionally won, or whether to tack left and appeal to their base.

It�s an argument reflected in the Hillary Clinton versus Bernie Sanders contest for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016. Corbyn learned from Sanders, copying his digitally savvy campaigning methods to enthuse an analogous base of urban young people excluded from wealth and security, for whom "socialism" doesn't sound like a dirty word.

...

"There's a number of social democratic parties in continental Europe that have been hit very hard in recent elections: Germany, Italy, France, the Netherlands, Austria. There's a real process of soul-searching taking place. They are looking to Jeremy Corbyn. To some, not to all but to some, he is the example," said Rem Korteweg of think tank�Clingendael.

"I actually think [the Corbyn phenomenon] is replicable," he added, "It has to do with the fragmented nature of the political landscape. It's difficult to make a case for a broad-based, community-wide political party... in terms of political mechanics it makes sense to be more targeted."

The New Statesman posted:

How the German left is looking to Jeremy Corbyn for inspiration

The leader of the SPD�s youth wing has been explicit that the party�must learn from the �traditional political answers� offered by Labour under Corbyn�s leadership

...

So what can the German left learn from Corbyn�s transformation of the Labour Party? Perhaps the greatest lesson is that �same old, same old� neoliberalism � remorseless privatisation, financialisation, austerity, deregulation, and a shrinking state � has become, for the left, a losing game. Labour under Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, and Ed Miliband became a pale echo of the party�s rich progressive tradition � to put it unkindly, �Toryism with a human face�. Likewise, the SPD suffered immeasurably from cleaving to the stale doctrines of the Gerhard Schr�der years, to which it shackled itself through a total of ten years of grand coalition with Angela Merkel�s CDU since 2005.

Instead, like Corbyn�s Labour, the SPD needs to craft a new ideology � one that carefully balances looking back�to before neoliberalism, and looking forward, beyond it. It needs a vision that does not try to fix the status quo, but to replace it: it needs, in short, to embrace anti-capitalism in a meaningful way.

The German left must also learn from the success of Momentum� an activist organisation that started by focusing on one issue, then gradually expanded its mission to push for greater change. For Momentum, that issue was ensuring Corbyn�s election as leader. For the German left, the likeliest candidate is K�hnert�s 2018 �NoGroKo� campaign against the grand coalition. The SPD�s electoral weakness has borne out K�hnert�s arguments against its participation in government � and the German left need to mobilise around this issue, focusing on taking the SPD into opposition, where it has the breathing room to achieve meaningful ideological renewal.

But above all, the SPD must learn the rewards of keeping the left united, across parties and among the electorate. The signal marker of Labour strategy under Corbyn has been to preserve the alliance between the post-industrial working class and metropolitan university graduates. This has meant doubling down on what these groups agree on (welfare, healthcare, housing) while carefully negotiating � with studied vagueness � what they do not (Brexit, trade, immigration). The result has been the formation of a credible left opposition force in Britain for the first time in nearly 40 years.

The Independent posted:

Bernie Sanders' team will be watching Jeremy Corbyn very closely over the next few weeks

For decades, politicians on both sides of the aisle have sold Americans the idea that anything short of a virtually unregulated financial system is tantamount to �socialism�. Anyone who questions the rampant privatisation of services that are essential to human existence, like healthcare and water, is labelled with the �S� word (and therefore considered dangerous and un-American).

Bernie Sanders changed all that. He didn�t shy away from the S-word: he made a case for its true meaning. The Vermont senator�s first attempt at securing the Democratic nomination might have ended in defeat, but his 2016 run energized the left of the Democratic Party, proving that challenging the Democratic establishment while rejecting �big money� was possible.

In the UK, Jeremy Corbyn�s team were watching closely. Corbyn strategist Steve Howell�s book about the UK�s 2017 general election, Game Changer, discusses what the Labour campaign learned from Sanders. The strategy of holding huge rallies as a way of building momentum was an early adoption. Sanders� use of what Howell calls �narrative arcs� to spread political messages was the inspiration for Labour�s election slogan: �For the many, not the few.� Like team Corbyn, Sanders has made no secret that he�s been keeping an eye on political events across the pond too. In 2017, he aligned himself with Corbyn and said he was �very impressed� by the Labour leader�s campaigning style.�

Importing political ideas from another country can be, as Howell writes, a �hazardous� business. But with 2016�s Brexit vote foreshadowing Trump�s shock election win just a few months later, Americans will be observing the UK�s upcoming election more closely than ever.

Both men once again find themselves running campaigns in close succession, and it is Sanders who will be learning from Corbyn.�

...

The Sanders campaign will be watching as socialist Corbyn goes up against a Trump-like Conservative Party leader who was born into wealth and power, armed with the slogan �People before privilege� � a similar �narrative arc� to the Sanders message of �the people vs �the billionaire class��. In the event that Sanders wins the Democratic nomination and becomes the right�s main target, what will the deluge of anti-Corbyn Facebook ads teach his team? What will be the most effective right-wing talking points be? How will Corbyn alter his �narrative arc� as a response to the coordinated and intensely personal attacks that he will inevitably face during the election campaign?

America�s Democratic and Britain�s Labour parties find themselves grappling with similar challenges: a split between �moderates� � or soft capitalists � and the socialist left. The right-wing talking points are also similar: that the left-wingers are economically disastrous, offering voters everything they want �for free�, and trying to subvert the �will of the people� by ignoring a referendum vote or impeaching an elected president. Navigating the growing unease over the US and UK�s long-held support for Israel, while simultaneously confronting antisemitism within their ranks and on the far-right, will be another difficult challenge.

If Jeremy Corbyn is victorious against Boris Johnson on December 12th, it will be one of the strongest indicators that people-powered movements can win the day and that Americans might also finally be ready to back a socialist candidate. But the question remains: Will the Democratic primary give them the chance to vote for one in November 2020?

For the many, not the few, worldwide.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:13

L.H.O.O.Q.: Jan 3, 2013

Lurker here and yep will be travelling up to get out the vote in Watford. Let�s get the jam man into no.10! Been a fun ride lurking the thread last few days. I will not hope, but I�ll do my bit tomorrow.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:13

willie_dee: Jun 21, 2010; I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

I�ll be voting tomorrow early, this thread is at risk of giving me some hope. Please stop, I don�t want to be sad tomorrow.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:15

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

https://twitter.com/IwantJC4PM/status/1204873485782323202

people are going to turn up and vote.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:16

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Without hope you'll be sad today, so be happy today, and only be sad tomorrow if you have to be.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:16

Ojo: Jul 4, 2003; Well... when I said that I had a plan, I meant that I have to plan... the plan.

I'm anxious and excited. Even though I don't live in the uk anymore, so many in my family have really suffered due to austerity, and I desperately hope things go okay tomorrow.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:17

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

willie_dee posted:

I�ll be voting tomorrow early, this thread is at risk of giving me some hope. Please stop, I don�t want to be sad tomorrow.

This has been the most blatently manipulated election in any of our lifetimes. And the country is still going red.

This is what the politically homeless look like when they find a home. A family.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:18

jimmydalad: Sep 26, 2013; My face when others are unable to appreciate the

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor

I�m just expecting the worse but hoping for a win? My vote is still conflicted but I�m finding it hard to see Tories losing the election. I dunno, I just have a bad feeling :smith:

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:18

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

As we go marching marching, in the beauty of the day.
A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill-lofts grey.
Are touched with all the radiance, that a sudden sun discloses.
For the people hear us singing, bread and roses, bread and roses.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:18

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1204894131941711874

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:19

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Chuka Umana posted:

Is their anything they can do with a donation this late though?

Yes.
If they're posting ads on Facebook say, then they will have an account which someone's credit card will be attached to and every time it hits their limit of ad spend, they'll get another bill. This could be up to a month after the end of the campaign. Whichever poor sap has their Credit Card attached will be more than overjoyed at seeing a donation!

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:19

IrvingWashington: Dec 9, 2007; Shabbat Shalom; Clapping Larry

Chuka Umana posted:

Is their anything they can do with a donation this late though?

As other folks have said, it's for digital outreach to push up the vote of young folks

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:22

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

It's up

weak poo poo if you ask me

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:23

Vitamin P: Nov 19, 2013; Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Bin one was better.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:25

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I like the implication that the UK is going to be underwater whoever wins.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:25

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

brave of them to come out against kinnock in 2019

also i agree, the tories should vote brexit.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:25

Firos: Apr 30, 2007; Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism

Vitamin P posted:

Bin one was better.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:25

RabidWeasel: Aug 4, 2007; Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

loving lol they actually did the Kinnock thing again, it is literally impossible to parody the Sun

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:26

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Also corbyn is gonna destroy *squints* liverpool? with a big lightning bolt. Bit of sun fantasy if you ask me.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:26

MonikaTSarn: May 23, 2005

Another lurker from germany joining in: You got this ! Go Vote ! Go get them !

Your positivity in the last days really was awesome. Gave me some hope when I felt really bad about the state of this hosed up world.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:26

jimmydalad: Sep 26, 2013; My face when others are unable to appreciate the

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor

I don�t know what I can do for people who don�t realise that having the same opinion as the Sun is a very bad thing. I�m so jaded by the recent history of politics. I guess I might as well vote Labour even if it�s just like chucking a pebble into a lake.

# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:27