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Infinite Karma posted:I mean, in the real world "induced demand" is a thing, because people want to go places but they loving can't, so as soon as it's easier to get there, they actually go. When more traffic bandwidth is opened up, more people use it, it doesn't just fill up with imaginary cars that create the traffic. Look at the 73 toll road - there's never traffic, even though people desperately want to get between the places that it leads, because it's too expensive. Also this. Toll roads shouldnt exist.
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Infinite Karma posted:I mean, in the real world "induced demand" is a thing, because people want to go places but they loving can't, so as soon as it's easier to get there, they actually go. When more traffic bandwidth is opened up, more people use it, it doesn't just fill up with imaginary cars that create the traffic. Look at the 73 toll road - there's never traffic, even though people desperately want to get between the places that it leads, because it's too expensive. I feel like people often overlook this. Certainly mass transit is preferable to people driving places, but I feel like with our lovely relationship to mass transit, it's often just a question of going somewhere vs not going somewhere. I feel like making more trains happen faster is totally out of consumer control, and whenever given the option, we do vote for trains. Edit, going full blowhard: We shouldn't be punished for our lack of ability to make our politicians build the trains we vote for.
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Skyscraper posted:I feel like people often overlook this. Certainly mass transit is preferable to people driving places, but I feel like with our lovely relationship to mass transit, it's often just a question of going somewhere vs not going somewhere. I feel like making more trains happen faster is totally out of consumer control, and whenever given the option, we do vote for trains. I dont think carpools are a good solution but...CHANGING THEM TO TOLL ROADS WHAT THE gently caress I dont wanna have to fight a motherfucker on the freeway entrance next to the santa ana zoo again, DONT MAKE ME GAVIN
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Dec 11, 2019 22:03
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Build the loving trains and housing or throw yourself into a volcano, dems
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Infinite Karma posted:I mean, in the real world "induced demand" is a thing, because people want to go places but they loving can't, so as soon as it's easier to get there, they actually go. When more traffic bandwidth is opened up, more people use it, it doesn't just fill up with imaginary cars that create the traffic. Look at the 73 toll road - there's never traffic, even though people desperately want to get between the places that it leads, because it's too expensive. 73 is hilarious, it's like the perfect ideal of orange county.
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We gotta start the TIMBY party.
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Skyscraper posted:We gotta start the TIMBY party. Guillotines In My Back Yard
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Infinite Karma posted:I mean, in the real world "induced demand" is a thing, because people want to go places but they loving can't, so as soon as it's easier to get there, they actually go. When more traffic bandwidth is opened up, more people use it, it doesn't just fill up with imaginary cars that create the traffic. Look at the 73 toll road - there's never traffic, even though people desperately want to get between the places that it leads, because it's too expensive. They gave people chauffeurs to simulate self-driving cars and their vehicle use doubled. https://jalopnik.com/zombie-miles-and-napa-weekends-how-a-week-with-chauffe-1839648416 Also after a San Fransisco freeway collaped in a big earthquake in the late 80s they decided not to rebuild it and the traffic "disappeared". The reality is that the amount of asphalt and roads and metal we'd have to make to give everyone a decent low-traffic experience in a personal vehicle is ludicrous. You can blame whoever you want but our society's flirtation with this ideal has been an absolute loving disaster.
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Pomp posted:Build the loving trains and housing or throw yourself into a volcano, dems Which California volcano do we dislike enough to suffer this fate?
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:They gave people chauffeurs to simulate self-driving cars and their vehicle use doubled. Is that somehow a reply to the post you quoted? It seems like the opposite.
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FMguru posted:I'm more of a GIMBY fan Hello I am interested in your club
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FMguru posted:I'm more of a GIMBY fan Put 'em in the front yard where we can see them 
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The guillotine is a dangerous device and needs a continuous fence no less than five (5) feet high with a single gate that can be latched and locked, with the latch and lock located at the top of the gate.
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A guillotine is a tool, and as such should be kept at the public library for check-out when needed.
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Jaxyon posted:73 is hilarious, it's like the perfect ideal of orange county. I looked it up recently, and the 73 is set to be a toll road until 2060 or so with their new higher-interest, longer-term bonds (instead of the original plan of 2005-ish). I guess it pays to have guaranteed profits so no matter how you gently caress up your privately-funded project you're guaranteed to make that sweet public money?
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I'm still annoyed they did all of that work replace those bridges to widen the 405 and then just added a lane of traffic rather than a dedicated bus lane or a lightrail track
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The Glumslinger posted:a lightrail track Of course they didn't do that.
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God would I love a trans california rail all the way up to shasta
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Hell yeah me too. Heading up there after Christmas for a week of doing absolutely nothing at all. Gonna pick a friend up at the train station in Dunsmuir at 12:30 AM + delay, which will be fun!
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:God would I love a trans california rail all the way up to shasta There are people at my local supermarket collecting signatures to defend prop 13...
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FilthyImp posted:That would be amazingly forward thinking and useful considering the build-out of rail to LAX. They're planning one and its actually mostly funded, but its going to be likely be a tunnel alongside
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sincx posted:The unfortunate truth is that most people consider higher density housing to be inferior in quality, and will pick single-family detached housing if they can afford it. Realistically the choice is freeways or trains, not sprawl or no sprawl. Stop building condos and apartments out of wood structures with lovely insulation and you got that fixed.
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Celexi posted:Stop building condos and apartments out of wood structures with lovely insulation and you got that fixed. Hey man stick builds are earthqualr resistent
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Hey man stick builds are earthqualr resistent
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Admiral Ray posted:The guillotine is a dangerous device and needs a continuous fence no less than five (5) feet high with a single gate that can be latched and locked, with the latch and lock located at the top of the gate. Ahem, the gate must be self-closing and self-latching to meet code. Wouldn’t want small children accidentally guillotining themselves!
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Admiral Ray posted:The guillotine is a dangerous device and needs a continuous fence no less than five (5) feet high with a single gate that can be latched and locked, with the latch and lock located at the top of the gate. This post came from a place of pain
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Anza Borrego posted:Ahem, the gate must be self-closing and self-latching to meet code. Wouldn’t want small children accidentally guillotining themselves! There's also a Guillotine Safety test, a background check, 10 day waiting period, a Guillotine Safe Handling Demonstration, state fees, and Licensed Guillotine dealers charge their own fees. If you decide you need a pocket guillotine then you need to get a Concealed Pocket Guillotine Carry License, and there's a background check, training and fees, and the ease of getting one issued depends on how the locality feels about issuing such licenses to proles.
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https://twitter.com/echarlie429/status/1205336601020239873 whoopsie doodle
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I already got, and returned, my "you're registered as no party preference, did you want a ballot from the democratic or (that other third party I forget which one), or would you like to register for a party?" card. So if your registration for dem gets wiped out, you'd get one of those, yeah? Note that I'm in contra costa county.
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I too pay attention to every piece of unexpected mail that is sent to me in the election season.
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remarkable that radium keeps getting the job to write the voter registration software.
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Placer County sent me a card asking to verify my EVIL COMMIE "DEM" permanent absentee voter status and I did and included a note saying "nice try McClintock"
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I discovered yesterday that the owner of my favorite sandwich shop is a tremendous CHUD. Apparently so much so that it turned into a (local) news story.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:I discovered yesterday that the owner of my favorite sandwich shop is a tremendous CHUD. Apparently so much so that it turned into a (local) news story. Please don't be Mr Pickle's (I don't even like the food much just the mascot)
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Admiral Ray posted:remarkable that radium keeps getting the job to write the voter registration software. Didn't he legitimately get a job as a programmer for the federal government?
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Some PG&E news, Newsome actually did something good, maybe https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-13/ PG&E’s future in doubt after Newsom rejects bankruptcy plan quote:SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday rejected Pacific Gas & Electric’s proposal to pull itself out of bankruptcy, saying its reorganization plan falls “woefully short” of requirements set under state law. Hard to say since this is non-binding, but Im kinda surprised he didnt just give in to the hedge funds
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Gavbot has been calibrated to favor votes more than money
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Gavbot has been calibrated to favor votes more than money Actually extremely rare for a candidate
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