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Lotion Tester posted:Probably kind of This owns. Thank you Also everyone go download BeOS. I loved BeOS and ran it as my primary os for years
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:This owns. Thank you I wanted a BeBox just for the CPU lights 
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EVIL Gibson posted:When phone companies cut over from switchboards to digital, it is really a cut using bolt cutters. Reminds me of when I was decommissioning a SCIF when I was in the Air Force. Destroying thousands of dollars of cables and equipment that couldn't be used anymore because it was classified.
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KozmoNaut posted:The 2.xx versions of Winamp were light on resources and had an easy to understand straightforward interface, which made it the MP3 player for PC. And it was made freely available, which just increased its popularity. The last versions of WinAmp are 5.666 and 5.8, and I was surprised just how many people still use these. They take up almost no resources on a modern system, and they're just great.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:In the early 2000s Pepsi ran a promotion where under the bottlecaps you could find codes for a free download off iTunes. I would install iTunes, download the song, burn it to CD (if I recall that was the only way to really export them at the time) and then uninstall iTunes. Even on my Mac at work I avoided iTunes as much as possible. Oh yeah, I'd forgotten all about that. The only way to export iTunes songs was to burn them to CDs (each song could be burnt five times, IIRC) and them rip the CD with iTunes to make it an ordinary MP3. The poo poo we put up with.
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Qwijib0 posted:I wanted a BeBox just for the CPU lights Hell yeah the beboxes owned. They never show up on eBay and when they do they are either broken af or super pricey I really want HaikuOS to gel into something.
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I actually installed and used winamp just last week, to play some music and sound effects for a Christmas party play at work. I just needed something that would play MP3s with no fuss, and could be configured to not advance to the next file in the playlist - and it worked fine, of course.
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Horace posted:Oh yeah, I'd forgotten all about that. The only way to export iTunes songs was to burn them to CDs (each song could be burnt five times, IIRC) and them rip the CD with iTunes to make it an ordinary MP3. The poo poo we put up with. All part of the deal they had to strike with the labels to get them to allow DRM that wasn’t like “the file disappears after you play it” Non-DRM’d files never had limits.
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I miss Winamp's file renaming system. It did a match and redid all of the metadata in a MP3. Good for wonky rips or stuff obtained from friends. It also had a batch converter.
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EVIL Gibson posted:When phone companies cut over from switchboards to digital, it is really a cut using bolt cutters. "Any emergency calls in progress?" ... "Good enough"
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Lotion Tester posted:Hello, I am the weirdo that actually paid the registration fees for Scorched Earth and mIRC. I paid for mIRC. Fun Fact: it actually expires after 15 years or so.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I never really understood the popularity of WinAmp. It was cool like how some demoscene stuff was cool, how keygens that played music were cool, and how making an mp3 collection you didn't pay anything for was cool, and a teeny bit like how smoking was cool. Most software isn't cool, but Winamp was.
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Data Graham posted:All part of the deal they had to strike with the labels to get them to allow DRM that wasn’t like “the file disappears after you play it” Also, it was much more permissive. It would only let you burn each playlist a fixed number of times. Maybe 5, maybe 10. Enough that it wasn’t a hassle to just make a new playlist if needed. Apple really made an excellent deals for users at the time.
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BogDew posted:I miss Winamp's file renaming system. It did a match and redid all of the metadata in a MP3. Good for wonky rips or stuff obtained from friends. Foobar2000 is superior in every way, so much so that I use it on Linux (through WINE), just for its batch conversion tools.
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Code Jockey posted:modplug > winamp Don't forget XMPlay https://www.un4seen.com/ Still being updated I think.
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Speaking of batch jobs. I've been slowing migrating all my media over to my very loud and power hungry new-old rack server. Now over the years I have got copies of the same stuff all over the place in mostly drunken moments of freeing up space. So now I've got everything sorted neatly on a few drives I can go the route of properly mirroring and striping drives for redundancy/performance. How do I check for duplicates for 30TB worth of stuff? All these years I never noticed CCleaner has a Duplicate Finder and it's surprisingly fast and robust with it's options. As a bonus it exports a text file.
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I remember trying to get into Foobar2000 because nerds kept recommending it over WinAmp because it had more features and such. I tried it for a while, it was more hassle and just looked and felt so... nerdy and uncool. Switched back to WinAmp and never looked back, smell ya later nerds  I think it's been a good ten years since I listened regularly to mp3s, drat.
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Humphreys posted:Speaking of batch jobs. I've been slowing migrating all my media over to my very loud and power hungry new-old rack server. Now over the years I have got copies of the same stuff all over the place in mostly drunken moments of freeing up space. Use a filesystem with deduplication built‐in. This does suppose they’re all on the same volume.
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EVIL Gibson posted:When phone companies cut over from switchboards to digital, it is really a cut using bolt cutters. Uhhh... What's the roll-back plan? No wonder that nerd flicking the switch was sweating
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DF Retro is always pretty great, but their most recent video about Shadows of the Empire touches on its compatibility with all kinds of obscure early 3D accelerators. It really took me back, as getting this game to run was a real pain in the rear end. The whole video is great, but they get into the PC port at about the 20-minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mznc8dhijTo
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Platystemon posted:Use a filesystem with deduplication built‐in. Sorry I wasn't quite clear with my case. Multiple physical drives I'm trying to mitigate dupes.
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Humphreys posted:Sorry I wasn't quite clear with my case. Multiple physical drives I'm trying to mitigate dupes. If it's music, importing everything into itunes and having it move/sort your files into a new location works surprisingly well.
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klafbang posted:Also, it was much more permissive. It would only let you burn each playlist a fixed number of times. Maybe 5, maybe 10. Enough that it wasn’t a hassle to just make a new playlist if needed. Apple really made an excellent deals for users at the time. They kept pushing it too, renegotiating the deal over and over the more the balance of power shifted in Apple’s favor. If I recall correctly, the initial deal said you could burn a playlist ten times, but you only got 3 computers/devices you could copy your files to. They reworked the deal so they got that limit up to 5 devices, but the labels said “a hah, but you can only burn playlists 5 times  ” to which Apple was like “oh no not that  ” because remaking a playlist is super easy and anyone needing to burn more than 5 copies of a playlist is getting into legit questionable territory anyway.
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I have been using Winamp since 1999 and I will continue to for another twenty years.
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Star Man posted:I have been using Winamp since 1999 and I will continue to for another twenty years. You have actual mp3 files?
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I used to be a gigantic Winamp nerd... then I moved onto Foobar and spent hours meticulously tweaking and customizing the interface. I have a several hundred GB music collection, a good chunk of it lossless that I ripped myself from my uncle's massive CD collection. Spent untold hours arranging, tagging, renaming, etc... And these days I never touch it. I haven't played a file from it in a couple years actually. Went to streaming services some time ago and never looked back.
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stevewm posted:I used to be a gigantic Winamp nerd... then I moved onto Foobar and spent hours meticulously tweaking and customizing the interface. Considering the state of streaming TV/Movies these days, It still surprises me that streaming music is so good. Just pay $10 to any service out there and get access to 99% of popular music ever released.
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It kinda blows my mind. The whole iTunes concept was premised on the idea of streaming/subscription services being rear end, because "you don't own the music files" / "if you stop paying the subscription fee you lose your whole collection" / etc. It all made total sense at the time compared to the streaming services available at the time, and it broke the back of the labels after a protracted war. But nowadays, ... I'm tempted to say I think this is a personal taste thing, but I just don't care about hoarding music anymore, or keeping my own music files. If I want to listen to something it'll be on youtube for free, or spotify or whatever, and all of the arguments I used to go to the mat about with regard to ownership and subscription fees now just seem ridiculous. I do have a number of music files that are certainly not going to be on any streaming service, but ... I just don't listen to them anymore, and I thought it was just me and the XKCD guy, but maybe not? I keep hearing people telling the same story.
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I got rid of my multiple hundreds of gb music collection because, as stated by others, I literally never played anything from it. It is so much easier to just listen to spotify or whatever these days. I have a spotify premium subscription and if there is a song that I want to listen to missing from spotify, it's on youtube.
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wa27 posted:Considering the state of streaming TV/Movies these days, It still surprises me that streaming music is so good. Just pay $10 to any service out there and get access to 99% of popular music ever released. This is why I keep my collection-- you never know when or if music will balkanize like TV/movies did. I don't want 3 services with different restrictions depending on the label.
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Qwijib0 posted:This is why I keep my collection-- you never know when or if music will balkanize like TV/movies did. I don't want 3 services with different restrictions depending on the label.  Yeah, or things just get lost because reasons.
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Data Graham posted:It kinda blows my mind. The whole iTunes concept was premised on the idea of streaming/subscription services being rear end, because "you don't own the music files" / "if you stop paying the subscription fee you lose your whole collection" / etc. It all made total sense at the time compared to the streaming services available at the time, and it broke the back of the labels after a protracted war. I think owning downloaded songs made a bit more sense to consumers when ubiquitous mobile devices with a reliable and fast internet connection were not really a thing.
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I use Spotify on my phone while I'm commuting/out of the home because I accidentally washed my iPod Classic a year ago and don't feel like there's a good high-capacity player on the market. Spotify covers... most of my music needs? I have a pretty big collection that covers a fairly wide range of music and quite a few things aren't on Spotify. I still have a collection of files at home, partially as a hobby and partially so that I still have access to all my music when, for example, the internet goes down (every time we get more than an inch of rain in my neighborhood). Spotify does offline play and I guess I could sync everything to my local machine but I'd still be missing out on a lot of tracks/albums that I actually do play somewhat frequently.
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I rely on my music library and don't use streaming services aside from occasionally looking up a song I don't have handy or to get a link to a video for a post. I don't want to pay for a streaming service, prefer to curate own my playlists or listen to whole albums, and have control over every part of the process. It also lets me ignore what kind of signal strength I am getting, continue to barely use any data, and it's one less point of tracking information Big Tech has on me.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I rely on my music library and don't use streaming services aside from occasionally looking up a song I don't have handy or to get a link to a video for a post. I'll use a streaming service for background noise, but any music I care about gets converted to mp3 (or flac or whatever) and stored locally, so I have it forever even if all the streaming services should collapse tomorrow.
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Powered Descent posted:so I have it forever even if all the streaming services should collapse tomorrow. I hope your storage and playback devices can be powered by a hand crank
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Data Graham posted:It kinda blows my mind. The whole iTunes concept was premised on the idea of streaming/subscription services being rear end, because "you don't own the music files" / "if you stop paying the subscription fee you lose your whole collection" / etc. It's much harder to maintain a collection when new computers don't include optical drives. I've got Tidal, through my phone provider, and it's got a TON of poo poo on it and it's basically become my favorite thing for discovering or exploring music.
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Epsilon Plus posted:I use Spotify on my phone while I'm commuting/out of the home because I accidentally washed my iPod Classic a year ago and don't feel like there's a good high-capacity player on the market. Spotify covers... most of my music needs? I have a pretty big collection that covers a fairly wide range of music and quite a few things aren't on Spotify. I still have a collection of files at home, partially as a hobby and partially so that I still have access to all my music when, for example, the internet goes down (every time we get more than an inch of rain in my neighborhood). Spotify does offline play and I guess I could sync everything to my local machine but I'd still be missing out on a lot of tracks/albums that I actually do play somewhat frequently. Regarding high-capacity music players, does your phone take SD cards? You can get 200+ GB micro SD cards for under $50 these days. That's more capacity than even the largest iPods offered.
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I still have my old hard drive with all my old MP3s on it tucked away somewhere. I've been meaning to get a backup of it Just In Case but haven't yet been arsed to. There are a few bands that don't have their full catalogue on Spotify and most of them are on youtube, why bother? There are some old Finnish underground rap albums and Balkan synthpop from the 1980s that I carry around on a memory stick but that's the extent of music I don't stream.
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