Moon Slayer posted:

I told you that in confidence.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

it makes more sense if you realize that the Wacky Delly episode was true to life and that Joe Murray was trying desperately to have the show cancelled

his wife killed herself during the preproduction of Rocko and he basically tried to get it cancelled so he could get the time he needed to grieve and get his poo poo together.

all of the poo poo he pulled really made the show really popular, and they kept renewing it and he pushed away and gave up show running in season 3 to his assistant stephen hillebrand (who later created apongebob)

following season 3, they hit the number needed for syndication, and when Murray came back again demanding to be let go, the execs obliged and ended the series

Moon Slayer posted:

I say make "more like old ..." jokes bannable unless they are really funny. You take that shot you better not miss.

Straight White Shark posted:

Holy poo poo I knew that Wacky Delly was semi-autobiographical but I did not realize the real life personal issues behind the show, that sucks I definitely do not begrudge him the gently caress-you tone of the recent special (not that I did in the first place because it was funny, but it's extra warranted knowing the background and history behind the show.)

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

it makes more sense if you realize that the Wacky Delly episode was true to life and that Joe Murray was trying desperately to have the show cancelled

his wife killed herself during the preproduction of Rocko and he basically tried to get it cancelled so he could get the time he needed to grieve and get his poo poo together.


all of the poo poo he pulled really made the show really popular, and they kept renewing it and he pushed away and gave up show running in season 3 to his assistant stephen hillebrand (who later created apongebob)


following season 3, they hit the number needed for syndication, and when Murray came back again demanding to be let go, the execs obliged and ended the series

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

it makes more sense if you realize that the Wacky Delly episode was true to life and that Joe Murray was trying desperately to have the show cancelled

his wife killed herself during the preproduction of Rocko and he basically tried to get it cancelled so he could get the time he needed to grieve and get his poo poo together.


all of the poo poo he pulled really made the show really popular, and they kept renewing it and he pushed away and gave up show running in season 3 to his assistant stephen hillebrand (who later created apongebob)


following season 3, they hit the number needed for syndication, and when Murray came back again demanding to be let go, the execs obliged and ended the series

Straight White Shark posted:

Holy poo poo I knew that Wacky Delly was semi-autobiographical but I did not realize the real life personal issues behind the show, that sucks I definitely do not begrudge him the gently caress-you tone of the recent special (not that I did in the first place because it was funny, but it's extra warranted knowing the background and history behind the show.)

Snow Cone Capone posted:

Where is this info from? I'd like to know more.

quote:

LK: Did you stay with the show until the very last episode? Was it your choice to stop production of new episodes of RML?

JM: I wanted to answer these together, because they affect each other. And there are many elements to it.

I have never talked publicly about this, but I had a horrible tragedy happen to me two months before I started production on Rocko. There were many unresolved issues when I moved to LA to work on the show, both emotionally and physically. I felt like I left to run a marathon with my pants around my ankles. I figured I would work on a season of Rocko (because I really didn't believe it would go on longer) and then move back to the bay area and clean up the loose ends I had left hanging. Well, the show got picked up for another season,, and then another. I was preaching the hand-crafted approach to series television, which takes a lot of work, and I just got to a point where the other part of my life couldn't wait any longer. The producer gets no hiatus (break) and the job is often a 7 day a week commitment. It was a very difficult decision to make, but I didn't think I was serving the show very well. We had an incredible staff that was able to keep the show going, so I told the network that 3rd season would be my last. I encouraged them to keep the show going. They asked if I would executive produce on the 4th season, which would mean overseeing writing, approving storyboards, and still be overall responsible for delivering the show on-time and on budget. I gave the creative directing and producing responsiblities to Steve Hillenburg and Ken Kessell, who did an incredible job, and I was able to work a little less, and the 4th season was great!! Although I was going to step away completely after 4th season, I encouraged the network to keep the show going...It was on a great roll.. but they thought 52 episodes were enough, and put an end to production.

A good thing is I feel all 52 episodes are top notch, and I am proud of all of them. There is always a risk of turning out mediocre product after a while when you are dealing with volume. But our team was intact until the end, and kept up the quality! Another good thing is Steve Hillenburg is working on a pilot for a possible new series with Nick, and if it goes it will be a blessing to us all! He's the best!!

I feel very fortunate to have been given the opportunity to do the show, feel sad if my personal experience helped put an end to Rocko, but I really had no choice. Anyone who knows me, knows I don't walk away from a commitment, but I had a commitment to myself. Yes, there were times Nickelodeon made it more difficult than it needed to be, but there were also times they made it easier.

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

"hey we want to bring back your show that you tried desperately to get shitcanned"

"ok heres my pitch about revivals and just accepting change and not clinging to the past dipshits"

love it

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

"better than John k" is a low bar for pretty much anything but especially "not loving kids"

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

And most importantly, happily made new movie

fauna posted:

i was thinking today how part of the magic of twisty is that all his adventures are associated with a particular costume, like barbie, so i know him only as a series of strangely-dressed personas: vest twisty, centurion twisty, geisha twisty, bakery twisty, malibu twisty

Fantastic Flyer posted:

Can I see some of these pictures of Twisty because lol

Fantastic Flyer posted:

Can I see some of these pictures of Twisty because lol

Straight White Shark posted:

he took Nick's money and made a 40 minute special that said that your favorite childhood media is all owned by evil corporations, reboots of the things you love are cynical soulless cash grabs, and only deranged lunatics hang on to the shows and movies of the past.

Nickelodeon wasn't even interested in airing the finished product and flogged it off to Netflix, lol

Straight White Shark posted:

he took Nick's money and made a 40 minute special that said that your favorite childhood media is all owned by evil corporations, reboots of the things you love are cynical soulless cash grabs, and only deranged lunatics hang on to the shows and movies of the past.

fauna posted:

they're cultural artefacts, lovingly guarded and never made public

Jerry Cotton posted:

ftp.fishmech.ru

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

kind of a Rocko situation where a show that seems very lolrandom as a kid turns out to have a serious method to its madness

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

"better than John k" is a low bar for pretty much anything but especially "not loving kids"

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

tbf they also put the Zim movie on Netflix and that's way more conventional (and, if anything, a lot lighter than the show ever was).

from what I understand they were planning a whole thing with reviving old shows as movies, and they greenlit three: Hey Arnold, Rocko and Zim. iirc Hey Arnold made it to air and bombed pretty hard, but they didn't want to cancel the project entirely (especially not the Rocko and Zim ones that were already greenlit and in production), so they made a deal with Netflix thinking that would actually get the specials in front of eyes that care.

e: the Zim movie is honestly partly responsible for my recent turn towards just openly liking what I like and not really giving a gently caress, because I went back and watched some of the show expecting to cringe hard and hate it, and instead found out it holds up amazingly well

kind of a Rocko situation where a show that seems very lolrandom as a kid turns out to have a serious method to its madness

Fantastic Flyer posted:

Can I see some of these pictures of Twisty because lol

Gone Fashing posted:

FilthyImp posted:

Gotta admire a poster's ability to run a gimmick like that so well.

Someone mentioned Frags getting run off a while ago. What was that about? Totally forgot about that bit of history.

Gone Fashing posted:

Pick posted:

Actually I think "Mysterious Mysteries" might be the funniest episode. I recall Career Day being, if anything, too accurate. Attack of the Saucer Morons, a classic. Abducted is extremely good also.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

Zim is fantastic and its kind of a shame that lolmonkeycheese association with it ever stuck

Also it was one of the last real times Nick ever took a real gamble with a creator. I'm still not sure how they hired the creator of Johnny the Homicidal Maniac to do a cartoon.

Snow Cone Capone posted:

Zim is great, but last time I tried re-reading Vasquez's comics, they didn't hold up as well.

Turtlicious. posted:

The admins said that I could come back, I apologized and pointed out that I was literally a different person 6 months ago, and that I got help, and they very kindly allowed me to stay.

Sid Vicious posted:

Did you really just add a period to your old user name after your last alt got permabanned too lmao

Turtlicious. posted:

I apologized, and pointed out that when I made those posts, I was dealing with a medical emergency where my insurance was loving up and I couldn't get my brain pills. Nothing actually happened, nothing was actually made. I have new meds now, and am not the same person I was six months ago. Literally A Bird said I was allowed back, as well.