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So I just kinda realized something funny about GameStop. Some of their stores have a designated "Elite" status. I can't remember the qualifications, but I think they were stores that made $x (a million? It probably varies by city) each year. Years ago, back when I worked there, the only location I knew had the designation was the one that had no stores within ~5 miles any direction. Now that there's less stores, I noticed a few more Prestige locations in town last time I googled GameStop. Gee, I wonder why.
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I think Games Workshop wasn't actually unique in being a company that does literally zero market research at all.
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DrNutt posted:Please explain when this has happened to anyone. Every game I 'own' digitally on just about any platform I have free access to redownload and replay at any time. The one exception in my digital library is PT, which was a free demo for a game that ended up getting cancelled. But I'm sure, any day now publishers are going to start yanking away all those games I've paid for. Any day now. Desura: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desura It was an indie focused steam. It closed down one time in 2012 or so. Forcefully necromancered back to life later and died again in 2016. I lost some games I ended up rebuying on steam. I haven't checked in on it recently. At least gaben needs money for knives and food so he do spherical approximations for his life so steam will probably keep going.
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DrNutt posted:Please explain when this has happened to anyone. Every game I 'own' digitally on just about any platform I have free access to redownload and replay at any time. Plus all the cases of eBooks being withdrawn from Apple or Amazin stores...
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FilthyImp posted:The Marvel fighters were gone for a bit recently, and iirc Ducktales Remastered was taken off of the console stores because the licensing expired. - Activision lost the Transformers license, so War For Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron (the only good transformers game), and a couple others were pulled from Steam, Xbox, and PSN. - GTA 4 and 5 have had patches removing music they lost the licenses to. - Scott Pilgrim vs. The World can't be bought for love or money - P.T. - Audible removed "From Those Wonderful Folks Who Gave You Pearl Harbor" - Jerry De Lafamina's book on the madmen era of NYC advertising agencies. (I have a copy) Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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Dec 15, 2019 04:50
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Even GTA 3, Vice City and San Andreas had music removed from the Steam releases due to licensing issues iirc. Of course, that's a problem older than Steam, ask any Daria fan. Mostly because music licensing is a clusterfuck and no one saw affordable home media collections coming.
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I wish more stores handled games being removed the way that GoG does. If a game is pulled they take the down store page but still host the game's installer, manual, and everything else for users that have already bought it. There are weird situations though where games are pulled from GoG but not elsewhere effectively making them re-DRM-ed. This happened to the Duke Nukem games because lol Gearbox but hopefully it doesn't become a trend because putting up DRM-free versions of a game until the publisher feels like taking them away is a bad loving precedent to set for the industry. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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Dec 15, 2019 06:25
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Sodomy Hussein posted:According to Steam alone that would be literally 500+ games at this point for me, and I already tossed my old consoles because of the DVD cases of games I had no intention of ever playing again. At some point you need to make room for a significant other to live in your household, at which point becomes clear which things in your life are things and which are just poo poo that should go to the used book store. The original cases can eat up a lot of space, but just a bunch of discs is tiny. A binder for 300-400 discs takes up about one foot by one foot by six inches.
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I recently installed Transformers: Devastation off Steam (that's 2 years after it was pulled from the store) since I bought it before it was removed, is that not how it works with every game pulled from the store?
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Dec 15, 2019 12:03
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Detective No. 27 posted:Years ago, back when I worked there, the only location I knew had the designation was the one that had no stores within ~5 miles any direction.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:I recently installed Transformers: Devastation off Steam (that's 2 years after it was pulled from the store) since I bought it before it was removed, is that not how it works with every game pulled from the store? That's normally how it works, gog isn't special in that. I think PT and maybe one other thing were full on disappeared.
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Marvel Heroes was yanked and you can’t play any of it. Not sure you can download it cause it ain’t gonna work anyways. A lot of games these days are mmo service games. When they go offline they are doneso. At this point you just have to go in realizing you won’t get to keep the things you paid for digitally cause you don’t actually own them.
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That's also been a point of interest and debate for people interested in digital preservation. Like WoW. Do you archive the Vanilla release? The release with Day Zero patch? The major expansions? Everything? And, even, how do you account for things that get stealth updates or rebalances.
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Didn't something like that happen to the deadpool game too?
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FilthyImp posted:That's also been a point of interest and debate for people interested in digital preservation. Like WoW. Do you archive the Vanilla release? The release with Day Zero patch? The major expansions? Everything? It's a theoretical point, but the practical response is that preservation has only ever been able handle a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of human culture. We will preserve what we can afford to preserve. Completeness is not really possible.
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Hot Pink Justice posted:Prestige is based on survey scores. They are? I totally forgot. I had too much dignity to beg for surveys.
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The good Tron game from awhile back is now dead because Disney stopped paying to keep the DRM servers running and never bothered to remove the DRM even after all these years.
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No, you can get Tron 2.0 from GOG right now.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Of course, that's a problem older than Steam, ask any Daria fan. Mostly because music licensing is a clusterfuck and no one saw affordable home media collections coming.
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Headphones already existed in the 60s, he didn't even need to invent them.
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Detective No. 27 posted:No, you can get Tron 2.0 from GOG right now. I've never actually played any of them, so what I meant was Tron: Evolution.
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Lambert posted:Headphones already existed in the 60s, he didn't even need to invent them. The idea that people walked the streets with headphones on to isolate themselves from everything around them would have been preposterous back in the day. Also, no hats! Unthinkable.
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duz posted:I've never actually played any of them, so what I meant was Tron: Evolution. But that game sucked; Tron 2.0 wasn't a masterpiece, but it was fun, had some original mechanics, did cool things with the IP, and is fondly remembered by the portions of the internet that care about it...and it got a Windows 10 patch about 14 years after it came out. Obviously I have no idea who's in charge of pushing patches for these things, and its an awful standard to use for preservation, but for even middle-popular stuff, there may be enough demand to make sure it stays playable. Like, surely if anyone cared they could crack Tron Evolution's DRM, right?
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Yes, there have been cracks since it came out. In fact you can still pirate just about all the games being discussed here, that's not what was being discussed.
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duz posted:Yes, there have been cracks since it came out. In fact you can still pirate just about all the games being discussed here, that's not what was being discussed.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Arthur C. Clarke wrote a short story sometime in the 60s with a minor plot point where portable music players small enough to be worn as jewelry got invented! ...and then they were banned as public nuisances, because he predicted the MP3 player but not headphones. This is not a relevant post but I love that fact so much. The way I'm reading this is that he was still prescient because I constantly run into people listening to loud music either from their phones or a Bluetooth speaker. Like, when I'm hiking.
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FilthyImp posted:The irony is that crackers/warez folks actually do more to help preservation than the actual entities empowered to hold the license for said games. So at a certain point you're better off stripping the DRM because Oops it's removed from the market/DRM servers were nuked, etc. Pretty much. All the more reason to make sure your crack intros are top notch.
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Scaramouche posted:Didn't something like that happen to the deadpool game too? It has, it goes away but Activision/whoever will pay whatever the licensing is to bring it back at times when like a new X-Men or Deadpool flick is out.
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Zachack posted:The way I'm reading this is that he was still prescient because I constantly run into people listening to loud music either from their phones or a Bluetooth speaker. Like, when I'm hiking. Remember when it was fashionable to have popular songs on lovely early cell phones as your ring tone?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Remember when it was fashionable to have popular songs on lovely early cell phones as your ring tone? Not to mention having your car go HONK or YUK YUK when you lock it. People love making lovely noises.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Remember when it was fashionable to have popular songs on lovely early cell phones as your ring tone? It stopped??? 
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Most people went back to abstract ringing noises, if they have the sound on at all.
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Dec 17, 2019 07:12
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Go through enough phones and eventually you just stop bothering.
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I still have Casino Night Zone (the big band jazz version from Sonic Generations) as my ringtone, but I learnt quite quickly that you want generic music for your wake-up alarm because custom alarms are a great way to turn a piece of music you love into a piece of music you hate.
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It's a great use for a piece of music you already hate though.
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I can't use music to wake up because I just integrate it into my dreaming.
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I had a CD player alarm clock in high school and it had the dual benefit of making me hate a specific song PLUS the sound of a CD-ROM whirring up at 6:00 AM. Lots of Californication and AFI. Probably acted as some kind of exposure therapy.
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Just lol if your alarm is anything other than the Pillar Men theme from Jojo.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Just lol if your alarm is anything other than
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Love it when someone’s phone goes off in their pocket on the bus and the chorus of “Bring Me To Life” by Evanescence doubles in volume as they take it out.
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