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eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
A bellweather:

Kendra Horn has stated she's pro-impeachment. She's the rep who got elected in a Trump+14 district in Oklahoma.

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20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
The "Let's decide this via election, not impeachment" argument is pretty maddening here. That is, usually that argument has some weight when the president is facing a crisis, not when the president is the crisis.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



eviltastic posted:

A bellweather:

Kendra Horn has stated she's pro-impeachment. She's the rep who got elected in a Trump+14 district in Oklahoma.

from the Van Drew party switch we've learned that Democrat leadership was telling him, flat-out, "we will endorse someone against you in a primary if you do not vote yes"

i strongly suspect similar hardball is going on elsewhere. it's just Van Drew is particularly stupid and, when faced with two bad options, picked by far the worse one -- everyone else understands that, even if you flip parties, voters aren't going to support you over whatever Republican is already running in your district

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
https://twitter.com/MikeSpike77/status/1206658552082960384
yeah dems: he's not a criminal he's dangerously incompetent. Checkmate libtard.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

eke out posted:

from the Van Drew party switch we've learned that Democrat leadership was telling him, flat-out, "we will endorse someone against you in a primary if you do not vote yes"

We did? I missed that.

Roluth
Apr 22, 2014

eke out posted:

also lol even the republican voter base thinks top trump aides should testify, because they've been successfully convinced nothing wrong happened and he will be totally vindicated

https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1206961962376220672

this is where their messaging strategy starts making their senate strategy much harder

Hm. Not sure if this actually changes the Senate calculus, but this could push Trump back in the direction of the circus he wanted. This could change this, it could not. We'll have to see if Trump changes his tune.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
If Mitch can get a no witness trial pushed through he will and those 64% of Republicans polled will eat the poo poo and they will like it

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Just loving :lol: if the GOP overplayed their hand and gets heat for not calling witnesses that would def exhonerate trump and totally not result in more crimes.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

oxsnard posted:

If Mitch can get a no witness trial pushed through he will and those 64% of Republicans polled will eat the poo poo and they will like it

That seems like a rather low % of R's though for this sort of thing.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



eviltastic posted:

We did? I missed that.

yeah there were pieces saying that he was told directly that by democrats in no uncertain terms.

they included choice anecdotes like Van Drew trying to get DCCC staffers working for him to flip, and them instead immediately snitching on him to the national party lol. he really seems legitimately dumb

AhhYes
Dec 1, 2004

* Click *
College Slice

eke out posted:

also lol even the republican voter base thinks top trump aides should testify, because they've been successfully convinced nothing wrong happened and he will be totally vindicated

https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1206961962376220672

this is where their messaging strategy starts making their senate strategy much harder

Yep.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mcconnell-white-house-privately-at-odds-senate-trial-format

This piece claims the WH wants the trial to be long and a spectacle, and McConnell wanting it to be short. I hope Dems are thinking of ways to further goad Trump into pushing for a showy, extended trial.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

eke out posted:


they included choice anecdotes like Van Drew trying to get DCCC staffers working for him to flip, and them instead immediately snitching on him to the national party lol. he really seems legitimately dumb

Perfect fit for the GOP then :haw:

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1206982951101194240

is..

is The Calendar And The Clock going to come for me?

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Just catching up, but has anybody mentioned how rad the hathead of the dem guy in the rules committee hearings is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hx7jlZqwUo



(Not to take away from how good of a job he's doing, though, it's pretty solid.)

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

eke out posted:

yeah there were pieces saying that he was told directly that by democrats in no uncertain terms.

they included choice anecdotes like Van Drew trying to get DCCC staffers working for him to flip, and them instead immediately snitching on him to the national party lol. he really seems legitimately dumb

Ha! I just read that he'd been successfully wooed by the GOP. I missed all this. Yeah if he was the sort to inspire that kind of personal loyalty from rando staffers, he probably wouldn't need to be quite so worried about a primary challenge.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

(Not to take away from how good of a job he's doing, though, it's pretty solid.)

raskin's legitimately doing a great job and is one of the best democrats on the committee to be making this case (he's literally a law professor, also)

but man shouldn't some staffer have convinced him that this hair is a mistake by now

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



raskin should be an impeachment manager, btw, he's an excellent representative for the Judiciary Committee and Nadler should frankly not be allowed to talk

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

AhhYes posted:

Yep.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mcconnell-white-house-privately-at-odds-senate-trial-format

This piece claims the WH wants the trial to be long and a spectacle, and McConnell wanting it to be short. I hope Dems are thinking of ways to further goad Trump into pushing for a showy, extended trial.

McConnell's problem is that Trump does not want a simple acquittal. He wants exoneration, a declaration that he did nothing wrong.

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

I thought Nadler was pretty solid? Is his dislike of Trump shining through too much?

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



An insane mind posted:

I thought Nadler was pretty solid? Is his dislike of Trump shining through too much?

he's not bad for any reason other than the fact that he seems to have a lot of trouble finishing sentences and struggles when interrupted.

maybe it won't be such a problem in a senate trial, but i'd rather him not be the one talking, just because he's frankly not as good at it as many other people who could be doing it for us

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy
I'm Collins thecallwasfine I don't give a drat HIBBLE BIBBLE see here's the problem

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

eke out posted:

he's not bad for any reason other than the fact that he seems to have a lot of trouble finishing sentences and struggles when interrupted.

maybe it won't be such a problem in a senate trial, but i'd rather him not be the one talking, just because he's frankly not as good at it as many other people who could be doing it for us

if schiff isn't taking the lead on this it would be disappointing

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

eke out posted:

he's not bad for any reason other than the fact that he seems to have a lot of trouble finishing sentences and struggles when interrupted.

maybe it won't be such a problem in a senate trial, but i'd rather him not be the one talking, just because he's frankly not as good at it as many other people who could be doing it for us

Yea, Nadler is, unfortunately, not as good at public speaking as Raskin or Schiff or Swalwell.

heel turn
Jan 6, 2004

Some boy tried to step to me at the county fair. I said son u clearly have no ideal what creek im from
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1206987902800056320

Get him.

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



eke out posted:

yeah there were pieces saying that he was told directly that by democrats in no uncertain terms.

they included choice anecdotes like Van Drew trying to get DCCC staffers working for him to flip, and them instead immediately snitching on him to the national party lol. he really seems legitimately dumb

Don't suppose you have links handy?

Friend
Aug 3, 2008

Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

Just catching up, but has anybody mentioned how rad the hathead of the dem guy in the rules committee hearings is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hx7jlZqwUo



(Not to take away from how good of a job he's doing, though, it's pretty solid.)

https://i.imgur.com/r0NcpUk.mp4

Friend fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Dec 17, 2019

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

eke out posted:

raskin should be an impeachment manager, btw, he's an excellent representative for the Judiciary Committee and Nadler should frankly not be allowed to talk

Raskin is my Congressguy, and I'm pleased with the job he's done on this (and in fighting Trump/Republicans in general). I'd love to see him as one of the impeachment managers.

As for the hair, he usually has a messy fro but apparently he thinks slicking it down will make him look more professional. Hopefully someone sets him straight soon.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

what a flex. Goddamn Schiff is a wizard

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Meanwhile cut to Doug Collins screaming "WHERE'S ADAM!?"

heel turn
Jan 6, 2004

Some boy tried to step to me at the county fair. I said son u clearly have no ideal what creek im from
the calendar and the clock

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



"This hshissi is a classical casjse of a prosecutor... given evidence given by a prosecutar and then this and that"

Shut the gently caress up Collins...

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
Bruh I do not give a poo poo how corrupt Ukraine is; it has no bearing on the crimes Trump has committed

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
I've seen some Nunes and Gym quotes get vomited back by chuds on social media but I haven't seen a single "clock and calendar." It's so dumb and nonsensical that even idiot boomers are ignoring it

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

eke out posted:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1206982951101194240

is..

is The Calendar And The Clock going to come for me?

The Clock And The Calendar sounds like the name of a band whose sophomore album was panned by Pitchfork.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
The Clock and the Calendar will be who Cody Rhodes picks in his fight against the Butcher and the Blade tomorrow on AEW Dynammite.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1207005037421088773

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

The Clock and the Calendar will be who Cody Rhodes picks in his fight against the Butcher and the Blade tomorrow on AEW Dynammite.

Pretty sure the blade has been a major fixture of every one of Cody's big matches.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

A couple months ago...

https://twitter.com/MsEnergyHealer/status/1182883416896729088

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
I wonder if the GOP will circle the wagons around Pence like they’re doing Trump being that Pence has comparably no pull with the chud base. He may make for a great sacrificial lamb.

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BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Cabbit posted:

Pretty sure the blade has been a major fixture of every one of Cody's big matches.

HEYOOOOOOOOOO!!

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