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Simplex posted:I think Patricia mostly sucks, but the justification for firing him just isn't there. ......... absolutely dumbfounded by this statement
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Scipiotik posted:The justification for firing Patricia is that even when the team was good this year the defense that they spent all the money on was putrid. It's important to remember that with the injuries on offense, Patricia was brought in as a defensive minded coach. And the Lions defense is awful.
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Has a defensive minded head coach that was brought in to improve the defense ever actually done it?
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Dec 18, 2019 18:17
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Zimmer.
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OxySnake posted:It's important to remember that with the injuries on offense, Patricia was brought in as a defensive minded coach. This stat is a little old now but still worth mentioning: https://twitter.com/TJLang70/status/1196166321354018818 E: There's probably an interesting discussion to be had around how your offense suddenly getting neutered impacts your defensive performance (less time to rest between defensive series, playing defense from behind etc.) but even so this stat was almost entirely based on games with Stafford under center. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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C-Euro posted:This stat is a little old now but still worth mentioning: Darth Brooks posted:Zimmer. I don't know what the updated stats are for this year, but MN is something like 26-5 in games where the offense scores at least 21 points under Zimmer. Patricia is the biggest fraud in Pro football coaching.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Has a defensive minded head coach that was brought in to improve the defense ever actually done it? Pete Carroll?
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seiferguy posted:Pete Carroll? He was thought of more of a superstar who was evading college sanctions I think than brought in for that particular purpose. Going back Belichick might count? Oh god help me. Herm Edwards with the Chiefs. He did improve the defense, although he did it by giving the offense no chance to be successful. I mean, the offense probably wouldn't have been successful anyway, but still.
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Zimmer is the answer(flores looks like he might become that if Miami gets him some talent) but I would like to shout out good hc marvin Lewis
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Has a defensive minded head coach that was brought in to improve the defense ever actually done it? even bill loving belichick's defenses are generally "eh, it's not the WORST in the league, i guess" and he was a defensive-minded coach
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evilweasel posted:even bill loving belichick's defenses are generally "eh, it's not the WORST in the league, i guess" and he was a defensive-minded coach
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Cross-post from the NFCN thread, Patricia will (hopefully) start out on the hot seat next year: https://www.instagram.com/p/B6OXsZoHMZN/?igshid=16k2ucfc7hc4n
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Dec 18, 2019 21:04
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Play posted:......... absolutely dumbfounded by this statement There's s quote about Peyton Manning that applies to the Lions situation as well. "If 18 goes down we're hosed and we don't practice hosed." My feeling is that Detroit wouldn't be much better with a healthy Stafford, but that's opinion and conjecture. As it is firing a second year coach because he couldn't win with Jeff Driskel Ann's David Blough is a real bad look.
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Dec 18, 2019 21:09
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How about firing him because he's a rapist... is that a bad look?
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Dec 18, 2019 21:20
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After already keeping him for two years, probably yeah.
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You're going to fire him now for sexual assault allegations that became public 2 years ago? Now that your career coaching record is 9-20-1 we've decided to take these allegations seriously. Simplex fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Dec 18, 2019 21:23
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Matt Patricia is a bad look.
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Mega64 posted:Matt Patricia is a bad look. Remember when Matt Patricia (Matt Patricia!) scolded a reporter over slouching?
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Play posted:How about firing him because he's a rapist... is that a bad look? I guess winning does cover a multitude of sins...
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I think the justification of "we brought in this person to get us from above average and into the playoffs consistently and they have managed to tank the team incredibly hard" is a pretty loving good one.
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Patricia built a fort out of gatorade coolers and random sideline stuff in some game and it endeared him to me so I hope he stays forever and builds more forts 
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Has a defensive minded head coach that was brought in to improve the defense ever actually done it? Jeff Fisher
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DariusLikewise posted:Jeff Fisher just dont look at what happened to the offense
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Simplex posted:You're going to fire him now for sexual assault allegations that became public 2 years ago? I feel like this is probably one of those "better late than never" things. Parallelwoody posted:I think the justification of "we brought in this person to get us from above average and into the playoffs consistently and they have managed to tank the team incredibly hard" is a pretty loving good one. Yeah if you need a football justification, it's right there too. The Lions have been demonstrably worse since he became the head coach. I guess it takes 3 years to learn a lesson though
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1207451735805046784
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Coughlin has a bad reputation of being very hateable. Michael Strahan is the only Giant I know of who said the team hated him till they collectively told him to back off.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Has a defensive minded head coach that was brought in to improve the defense ever actually done it?
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Matt Patricia has no redeeming value. He sucks in every possible way
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Matt Patricia has no redeeming value. He sucks in every possible way I loathe Patricia, but we can't scrub the Gatorade throne from the history books.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Matt Patricia has no redeeming value. He sucks in every possible way Recently I had the insane idea that, once the season is over, I should measure how good every team in the league is at 2 minute drill situations, just because I know the Lions suck at them and it would be more evidence that he should be fired this man is literally driving me insane
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Has a defensive minded head coach that was brought in to improve the defense ever actually done it? Tony Dungy.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Recently I had the insane idea that, once the season is over, I should measure how good every team in the league is at 2 minute drill situations, just because I know the Lions suck at them and it would be more evidence that he should be fired Everything ever written about how smart of a coach he is regards how he prepares for the 2min drill and situational football... Yeah.
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He prepared only to hold a blank clipboard and sit occasionally in New England, still was terrible at that
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Coughlin might be the least deserving HC to win a SB, and somehow he did it twice.
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seiferguy posted:Coughlin might be the least deserving HC to win a SB, and somehow he did it twice. 
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How the gently caress do you justify giving this another year? https://twitter.com/ByNateUlrich/status/1207722894576488449
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SI released a list of head coaching candidates: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/12/17/nfl-head-coaching-candidates-to-watch The list, but if you click the article there's brief analysis blurbs for each candidate. quote:
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Ches Neckbeard posted:How the gently caress do you justify giving this another year? We have to be leading the league in illegal shifta
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