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Zoran posted:Lucas himself admits he's not an actor's director and he has little talent for dialogue. He always loved editing
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Pollyanna posted:Were they seriously going to do 3 different directors for a trilogy? I mean, good thing it’s Disney that proved it was a bad idea, but god drat. I mean...maybe this is the joke...but you do know who directed the OT, right? This is probably the joke.
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Dec 18, 2019 23:00
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This is scored lower on rotten tomatoes than attack of the clones. That's an achievement
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Zoran posted:Lucas himself admits he's not an actor's director and he has little talent for dialogue. He always loved editing He also purposely pursued a muted effect from the actors for much of the PT as a genre convention. Obviously not applied to highly emotional scenes
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Dec 18, 2019 23:00
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Disney sounds like they don’t know what they’re doing and lucked out on Avengers. Or just bought Marvel.
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The prequels were kind of stupid fun to rag on but the ST is just loathsome trash I can't even be bothered to hate properly. loving lol Disney.
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thrawn527 posted:I mean...maybe this is the joke...but you do know who directed the OT, right? Oh right, someone else did ESB. I forgot.
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It was so prescient when Disney made the new villain represent the people who did bad things after the first movie of the new trilogy was out. And losers on the internet being mean to celebrities is such a timeless theme to base your new trilogy on.
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Pollyanna posted:Oh right, someone else did ESB. I forgot. And someone different directed ROTJ. Maybe this wasn't the joke. 3 different directors directed the OT.
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Dec 18, 2019 23:02
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Lucas directed a lot of rotj and had absolute final creative control over everything so it’s not quite the same Or not ESB since it was studio financed ? I don’t remember clearly
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euphronius posted:Lucas directed a lot of rotj and had absolute final creative control over everything so it’s not quite the same That's never really been proven, though I'd certainly believe it. I'd totally buy the person who directed the Ewok scenes was a different person than the one who directed Throne Room scenes. He did have complete creative control, don't get me wrong, it's absolutely not the same thing. I just couldn't let a post complaining about 3 different directors for a Star Wars trilogy being a bad idea go unnoticed. It was just funny to me. edit: For ESB he had control over the story, but was largely hands off for the direction. I remember reading a story about him visiting the Dagobah set once and getting furious Kershner was going so far over budget and deadline to film the scene where Yoda lifts the X-Wing out of the swamp. He couldn't understand why Kersh wouldn't just go with a shot that was "good enough". thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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This I did not know and/or totally forgot about. I guess this trilogy was just super cursed.
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theblackw0lf posted:Abrams came in late and had very little time to write a script, as Disney for baffling reasons refused to move the deadline much. I literally could have written a better script than he did given the same amount of time and I don't even know how to format a movie script
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Esb is the real stand out. Lucas hates ESB lmao. Again tho I think he lost financial control a bit for that film
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Thrawn: I think there is “who directed what in ROTJ” info in the audio commentary from Lucas on the dvd. One of the dvds. My wine-soaked brain can’t remember specifics
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romanowski posted:make david lynch do a star war No!
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Pirate Jet posted:Do you guys like to think about how The Book of Henry started a chain reaction that tipped over one of the biggest franchises of all time? Plz explain?
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Disney had an opportunity to move things forward for maybe a decade of Star Wars after what the TLJ set up. They should have been kissing Johnson's feet. Instead they hosed it because they're chickenshit, and have probably killed off the franchise in the short term. There will be a reboot of ANH in 2030.
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dex_sda posted:It's that whole dumb prequel stuff about creating beings in the force and virgin birth poo poo yea this is idiotic as gently caress
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euphronius posted:Esb is the real stand out. Lucas hates ESB lmao. I've read the opposite, actually. That he poured so much of his own money into ESB that the reason he was so pissed at Kershner was that when he went over budget and passed deadlines, Lucas was risking being financially ruined if the movie didn't do well. Which is why he hired a director for ROTJ whom he could control easier, and wrapped all of his Episode 6-9 plans into just one more movie to cash out. This is largely from the book The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski, which I will never stop recommending, because it's insanely well researched, if rather amateurishly written, as it was his first (and only) book. euphronius posted:Thrawn: I think there is “who directed what in ROTJ” info in the audio commentary from Lucas on the dvd. One of the dvds. My wine-soaked brain can’t remember specifics Well I'll have to check that out, because that sounds fascinating. I've never really been into commentaries, so I've never listened to these. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Necrothatcher posted:Disney had an opportunity to move things forward for maybe a decade of Star Wars after what the TLJ set up. They should have been kissing Johnson's feet. Instead they hosed it because they're chickenshit, and have probably killed off the franchise in the short term. they were so eager to roll back TLJ that they started before the movie was even over
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You are right thrawn I got it backwards. Esb was the studio breakout.
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Rian Johnson: hey fuckos, here's a future for star wars without having to rely on actors in their 60s and 70s and aging boomer audiences Disney: lol, gently caress off
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Shaocaholica posted:Plz explain? Trevorrow was going to do episode 9 until the book of Henry came out and was an infamous turd of a film
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Brother Entropy posted:Trevorrow was going to do episode 9 until the book of Henry came out and was an infamous turd of a film hosed up thing is it's a more watchable movie than Jurassic World
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Necrothatcher posted:Rian Johnson: hey fuckos, here's a future for star wars without having to rely on actors in their 60s and 70s and aging boomer audiences I was lukewarm on TLJ, but freaking out and trying to make your gigantic franchise do a 180 in time for Christmas 2019 because it maybe made 1% less than the quadrillion dollars you hoped for and some nerds got mad is just repeating the Justice League disaster all over again. They either had to just lean into that poo poo, or give themselves more time to write themselves out of the corner and make a dull Marvel's Glowstick Space Avengers movie that would go down smooth with audiences.
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Necrothatcher posted:Disney had an opportunity to move things forward for maybe a decade of Star Wars after what the TLJ set up. They should have been kissing Johnson's feet. Instead they hosed it because they're chickenshit, and have probably killed off the franchise in the short term. Just curious since I came to talk about this very subject- if TLJ had been more of a consensus success (as far as fan reception), what would've been the logical extension of its story into the third movie? I don't hate Last Jedi, and I think in a lot of ways it did its best with the bad hand TFA dealt it, but it does seem like it really burned the bridge behind it. It's explicitly about the circular nature (and overall futility of) Star Wars- the galaxy is always going to be that lightsaber, caught in the balance between light and dark, repeatedly broken and then re-mended. The protagonists identify this, but come to the conclusion that better things aren't possible. The end. Where can you go from there? General Dog fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Can you imagine going to see this movie without reading the spoilers lol. I would probably be very upset. Now I just get to laugh while watching the worst Star Wars lol
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romanowski posted:make david lynch do a star war Last time he considered it he got a splitting headache while Lucas tried to explain what a wookiee was
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sean10mm posted:They either had to just lean into that poo poo That ship sailed with the tacked-on garbage TLJ had at the end. quote:or give themselves more time to write themselves out of the corner and make a dull Marvel's Glowstick Space Avengers movie that would go down smooth with audiences.  this is disney they consider that money rightfully theirs
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What if they thought it was an irredeemable model and they needed to get as much as they could and end the trilogy model and reset for a new set of movies in .. 4 years ? Nothing is filming atm
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Can you imagine going to see this movie without reading the spoilers lol. I would probably be very upset. Now I just get to laugh while watching the worst Star Wars lol This is why I’m going to see it anyway. I want to see the looks on people’s faces.
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General Dog posted:Just curious since I came to talk about this very subject- if TLJ had been more of a consensus success (as far as fan reception), what would've been the logical extension of its story into the third movie? I don't hate Last Jedi, and I think in a lot of ways it did its best with the bad hand TFA dealt it, but it does seem like it really burned the bridge behind it. It's explicitly about the circular nature (and overall futility of) Star Wars- the galaxy is always going to be that lightsaber, repeatedly torn in half between light and dark and then re-mended. The protagonists identify this, but come to the conclusion that better things aren't possible. The end. Where can you go from there? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis,_antithesis,_synthesis
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:If you think giving Favreau the reins is gonna save star wars then you have learned exactly the wrong lesson from all this The Lion King proves Favreau is a lovely yes man and giving him the franchise would only make things worse. The fact that he made Cook to criticize critics because they rightfully criticized a film of his kind of displays how childish his mentality is. People with egos that are this easily bruised should not be working on Star Wars.
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what han didnt die or harrison didnt give a gently caress to do whatever it was needed to do ghost han?
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Is there any reason to think it's not just benjamin renjamin having a hallucination
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thrawn527 posted:I've read the opposite, actually. That he poured so much of his own money into ESB that the reason he was so pissed at Kershner was that when he went over budget and passed deadlines, Lucas was risking being financially ruined if the movie didn't do well. Which is why he hired a director for ROTJ whom he could control easier, and wrapped all of his Episode 6-9 plans into just one more movie to cash out. I had always thought the major falling out was between Lucas and his producer, Gary Kurtz—the guy who was actually responsible for making sure things got done on time and on budget.
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Zeta Acosta posted:what han didnt die or harrison didnt give a gently caress to do whatever it was needed to do ghost han? the latter, it was panic booking after carrie fischer died. his respect for her plus a dump truck full of money probably got him in to do a minute long scene
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Mat Cauthon posted:Too bad it's gonna happen anyway. Especially if they do a Mandalorian movie and it does well. It would be really loving boring and it could do much worse. This movie may suck but at least it's loving interesting in how much it sucks. Favreau would turn all the Star Wars film into Iron Man 2's.
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Zeta Acosta posted:what han didnt die or harrison didnt give a gently caress to do whatever it was needed to do ghost han? han's not a jedi so he can't be a force ghost but apparently being a normal ghost is still on the table
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