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everybody is forgetting the established rules of the universe tho, in the canon Disney kept being anything but a chill smug monk puts you on the path to the "dark side" which means any strong feelings and you can quickly slippery slope into a genocidal space nazi. luke was afraid kylo would turn, turned himself then turned back too late to stop kylos fear of him turning to anger etc. the movie does a very bad job of explaining that but it's strongly implied. luke's character is and should be secondary to the way the force has been established to work
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The Mandalorian is pretty lovely too.
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Dec 19, 2019 00:32
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But but baby yoda! It's a beloved mascot and proof of Star Wars brand success and not a cynical cash in by soulless marketers who seeded memes.
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Werner Herzog likes it and thats good enough for me e: Baby yoda I mean. Not the mandalorian
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i know it's the cool goon thing to have a contrarian take about things, but the mandalorian passes the low hurdle of "best thing disney has done with the property" and for my money it's the best star wars has been since '83. turns out going back to formula of aping spaghetti westerns and kursawa flicks to tell a story about new characters instead of an explanation of throwaway lines about clone wars or side characters that no one really needed... gets you a pretty ok star war. and sure, baby yoda is precision engineered to sell plush dolls, but his role in the story lands just fine so whatever. send in your early bird redemption certificates for some baby yoda swag kids
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If disney had any prior faith in baby yoda it would have been plastered on every billboard from here to the Istanbul.
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Dean of Swing posted:If disney had any prior faith in baby yoda it would have been plastered on every billboard from here to the Istanbul. Istanbul is a city dumbass. You're thinking of the Bosphorus. Or maybe the Euphrates.
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Dec 19, 2019 01:11
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Is there a time skip in this movie.
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Dec 19, 2019 01:14
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I've made a bet with a co-worker that there will be time travel. Money is on the line.
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Dean of Swing posted:If disney had any prior faith in baby yoda it would have been plastered on every billboard from here to the Istanbul. Didn't Jon Favreau push to keep a cap on "Baby Yoda" so that the reveal was a surprise and made for a more enjoyable viewing experience?
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Dec 19, 2019 01:23
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Lol at the reactions to TLJ and then this. Disney needs to make a movie that breaks the mold and does something different BUT NOT TOO MUCH!!!!! I wonder if they're regretting the purchase yet (lol no they've made 4 bil back already easy) They are truly hosed.
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Blistex posted:Didn't Jon Favreau push to keep a cap on "Baby Yoda" so that the reveal was a surprise and made for a more enjoyable viewing experience? I can't possibly imagine the shark-eyed suits agreeing to this unless he just flew the puppet entirely under the radar. You show them the dailies with that adorable puppet and their brains will immediately start producing phantom cash register noises at 120 decibels.
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The Walrus posted:Lol at the reactions to TLJ and then this. Disney needs to make a movie that breaks the mold and does something different BUT NOT TOO MUCH!!!!! TLJ tried to be interesting and failed, the others tried to be boring and succeeded
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:TLJ tried to be interesting and failed, the others tried to be boring and succeeded
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Dec 19, 2019 01:32
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Yo mama jokes and pointless chase scenes are interesting as gently caress. At least they could have done a Scooby Doo gag with chasing through multiple doors/space portals?
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Dec 19, 2019 01:35
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Were there really red stormtroopers Also do they fly now
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They fly now!
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The C3PO red arm scene is JJ's own meta commentary on how much he sucks and just repackages the same old poo poo. I've read no reports that indicate TROS has big alien teats getting milked into a bottle. Therefore it is inferior to TLJ.
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i posted the ending of the film in this thread without spoilers cuz I thought it couldn't be true, that even jj wouldn't dare pinch off something so shockingly lazy and anticlimactic. should have searched my feelings I guess
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Dec 19, 2019 02:04
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They should have left in the version where Kylo falls down a hole and never returns. Bring back the hole you cowards
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Just watched caught the 10 am show in Australia. I hate to loving say it, but it's a bad movie. Lots of good ideas for things that would fill out 2 movies, but they cram them all into one and it makes the whole thing trash.
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Dec 19, 2019 03:05
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Owlbear Camus posted:I'm actually coming around on disliking the naked saber in the tent moment more and more. It's because Luke's character and 'better nature' is consistent in the film that he decides not to do so before he can go through with it.
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Raged posted:things that would fill out 2 movies, but they cram them all into one *In a Rian Johnson voice* All that has transpired has done so according to my design.
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tbh i'm not sure how Luke killing Kylo would have fixed that much anyway. I guess his academy wouldn't have gotten killed off, but Snoke would still nuke the Republic killing billions. Kylo didn't really have anything to do with that.
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drunkill posted:Just got out. rewrites are why the film has such problems in the first place lmfao
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skasion posted:tbh i'm not sure how Luke killing Kylo would have fixed that much anyway. I guess his academy wouldn't have gotten killed off, but Snoke would still nuke the Republic killing billions. Kylo didn't really have anything to do with that. well actually quote:In Story Group Official Canon news, it turns out that Ben didn’t attack anyone or destroy the temple after Luke attacked him. The building blew up for unknown reasons, killing many of the students in the fire, and a few surviving Padawans came across Ben alone in the flames. He told them what Luke had done, but they didn’t believe him and attacked, so he fled
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"The building blew up for unknown reasons" lol
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:What the hell are you talking about. If you find out the person in front of you is the next Hitler and you can stop WWIII with an effortless swing of a laser sword that you happen to have on your person, it is and should be everyone's first instinct to do so because it's just the sensible loving thing to do. That would be a compelling utilitarian argument, to a character shown to be utilitarian and pragmatic. Luke is a character who has already culminated his heroic journey with a conscious decision not to swing his laser sword at two current, actual Hitlers and instead resolved the conflict with a radical, risky act of completely unearned paternal trust. Like I said, it might have still worked, but we needed more than Luke's say so the kid had real spooky dreams for that. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:That would be a compelling utilitarian argument, to a character shown to be utilitarian and pragmatic. Luke is a character who has already culminated his heroic journey with a conscious decision not to swing his laser sword at two current, actual Hitlers and resolve the conflict with a radical, risky act of completely unearned paternal trust. Man these Hitlers are just coming out of the woodwork!
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Owlbear Camus posted:There's kind of a "scene missing" card between "I won't fight you, father" and tossing away his saber in the face of two evil wizards responsible for gigadeaths and willing to kill him because of his faith in "the good in you," and contemplating cold blooded murder over not even actions but bad dreams. The "scene missing" is the part where he's about to slice slice his father's head off for talking poo poo about his sister before he cools his head and decides not to. It establishes that Luke can be violent when emotional.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:The "scene missing" is the part where he's about to slice slice his father's head off for talking poo poo about his sister before he cools his head and decides not to. It establishes that Luke can be violent when emotional. him getting violent because king evil monster cape guy just said he's going to turn his sister into an evil monster lady is understandable. getting violent because a sleeping pupil had 2spooky dreams is... not
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Luke isn't real so going "ah well sometimes people get cranky as they age or they backslide into bad tendencies or or or" isn't the powerful argument driveby TLJ likers seem to think it is
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It was good. I’m not going to pretend it’s the best movie in the world but it was a good Star Wars movie. Critics are being proper harsh on it
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Sorry Chris you can't post here anymore, this is the own zone
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Moola posted:"The building blew up for unknown reasons" Chill guys - probably a gas main
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Chrs posted:It was good. I’m not going to pretend it’s the best movie in the world but it was a good Star Wars movie. Critics are being proper harsh on it make your own thread idiot
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Luke isn't real so going "ah well sometimes people get cranky as they age or they backslide into bad tendencies or or or" isn't the powerful argument driveby TLJ likers seem to think it is Driveby TLJ Liker New username?
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Chomp8645 posted:Driveby TLJ Liker Personally I'd go with a rian johnson plot twist
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