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Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
"Poe, Finn, you two have been gone for a long time"

*Poe and Finn look at each other and giggle*

*Rey and Chewie roll their eyes at them*

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The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Mulva posted:

I like how the Mandalorian does more to present the post-Empire Imperial position, and because it's delivered by Werner loving Herzog it's better acted than anything in the movies too.

Madness.

If it wasn’t for Werner then baby yoda would’ve been CGI. Literally everyone at Disney and the people running this poo poo including the directors and show runners have no idea what the gently caress they’re doing lol.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

General Dog posted:

RJ seems like a decent enough guy, but his admission that he couldn’t write scenes for Poe and Finn together seemed like a powerful self-own

Yeah this admission probably blows up my thoughts that he had a better ending for TLJ.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

I enjoyed the film but Leia’s death is literally this



But replace planet with son

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Looke posted:

I enjoyed the film but Leia’s death is literally this



But replace planet with son

Note: Leia and her home planet died

Henx
Feb 18, 2011
That was beyond awful. I don't really have more to say at this point beyond I now have a desire to watch it again just to clarify my thoughts on how poor it was.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Mulva posted:

I like how the Mandalorian does more to present the post-Empire Imperial position, and because it's delivered by Werner loving Herzog it's better acted than anything in the movies too.

Madness.

yeah, the mandalorian paints the empire as a more degraded version of the remenant in the old canon. its basicaly warlords and few weird loyalists. their tech and weapons are still floating around like marauders using an AT ST because its so loving common probably.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Henx posted:

That was beyond awful. I don't really have more to say at this point beyond I now have a desire to watch it again just to clarify my thoughts on how poor it was.

expound please. also i see it tomarrow.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Lol thinking about if the only change to TLJ was Poe and Finn go to the casino planet. It probably saves the whole movie from the backlash.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Raccooon posted:

Lol thinking about if the only change to TLJ was Poe and Finn go to the casino planet. It probably saves the whole movie from the backlash.

nah fuckboys would still bitch about Holdo

man I can’t believe how badly-paced TRoS was. just absolutely abysmal, rushed as hell

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
The Last Jedi seems so much better now.

Kylos story in the second half was good and Palpatine is always fun but otherwise that honestly kind of sucked.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
This movie sounds really awful, I mean I’m going to see it because my wife wants to but reading the leaked plot......it sounds loving dire

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Raccooon posted:

Lol thinking about if the only change to TLJ was Poe and Finn go to the casino planet. It probably saves the whole movie from the backlash.

honestly. yeah probably. rose is an ok character but she feels like too much of mouth piece for the writer which sucks because i think she could be a good character. a empathtic person who is from the lower ranks and joined because family troubles and has seen the bad side of the galaxy and has a uplifting vibe.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Do it ironically posted:

This movie sounds really awful, I mean I’m going to see it because my wife wants to but reading the leaked plot......it sounds loving dire

i have only heard various bits and pieces and havent watched the clips. i kinda want to go into this shitshow blind.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
lmao they reveal palpatine is back in the OPENING CRAWL?

The Opening Crawl posted:

The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of REVENGE in the sinister voice of the late EMPEROR PALPATINE.

GENERAL LEIA ORGANA dispatches secret agents to gather intelligence, while REY, the last hope of the Jedi, trains for battle against the diabolical FIRST ORDER.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader KYLO REN rages in search of the phantom Emperor, determined to destroy any threat to his power…

This is so bad

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Amethyst posted:

lmao they reveal palpatine is back in the OPENING CRAWL?


This is so bad

oh god is that real. HAHAHAHAHHAHA.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Escobarbarian posted:

nah fuckboys would still bitch about Holdo

man I can’t believe how badly-paced TRoS was. just absolutely abysmal, rushed as hell

Yeah there would still be complaints but if you do that the interactions with Poe and Holdo never happen. Or at least fewer of them.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Also the way they reveal Rey’s ancestry is really anticlimactic, like Kylo just drops it about 40% of the way through the movie

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
Lol at Kylo Ren rages

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
I mean I liked filling in the backstory of Leia training to be a Jedi and she had her own sabre and all that but yeah...

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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Escobarbarian posted:

Also the way they reveal Rey’s ancestry is really anticlimactic, like Kylo just drops it about 40% of the way through the movie

There's a leaked clip of a theater when that line is dropped and the theater is dead silent except for one guy who coughs twice.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Pollyanna posted:

There's a leaked clip of a theater when that line is dropped and the theater is dead silent except for one guy who coughs twice.

IT loving SUCKS SO MUCH I BIT MY TONGUE SO HARD I BLED ON MY SHIRT loving BLOOD MAGIC SHIIIIIIIT

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Raccooon posted:

Lol thinking about if the only change to TLJ was Poe and Finn go to the casino planet. It probably saves the whole movie from the backlash.

the third act would still be garbage, just maybe less garbage without rose's confusing message of 'don't sacrifice yourself to save people' coming immediately after holdo sacrifices herself to save people

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
another thing I’m baffled about in this movie (I’m baffled about a lot in this movie) is that they introduced this idea of the force also having this like, life force healing energy magic, and make it absolutely integral to the plot. like it’s not midi-chlorians levels of bad but it’s close.

cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

Bogus Adventure posted:

Lol at Kylo Ren rages

:argh:

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.
"Actually everything is about the Palpatines and the Skywalkers, who are also Palpatines. That's it, it's aristocratic white people all the way down."

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Brother Entropy posted:

the third act would still be garbage, just maybe less garbage without rose's confusing message of 'don't sacrifice yourself to save people' coming immediately after holdo sacrifices herself to save people

Lol never thought about that.

But if the Casino was Fin and Poe doing some caper poo poo riffing off each other. It probably pops a lot better than Fin and Rose.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Escobarbarian posted:

another thing I’m baffled about in this movie (I’m baffled about a lot in this movie) is that they introduced this idea of the force also having this like, life force healing energy magic, and make it absolutely integral to the plot. like it’s not midi-chlorians levels of bad but it’s close.

Going from enhanced human because of the force to full on magic.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Raccooon posted:

The scene of them escaping in the Tie Fighter in TFA is probably the best scene in that movie.

Best scene of the sequel trilogy honestly.

Gorelab posted:

I honestly thought that Finn had an interesting thing in TFA, it's just that they took an interesting if somewhat sanitized start then decided to do absolutely gently caress all to build upon anything with him while still wanting to give him lots of screen time.

I honestly think they originally half-planned for Finn to be Reys love interest, with Kylo being the brooding dramatic scion of power and Finn being the kind-hearted working class hero type guy and Rey ultimately choosing him. But I guess they worried that every single alt-lite weirdo would make youtube videos about how star wars is white genocide now and walked it back.

I dunno Ridley and Driver probably did have better chemistry and the Kylo story was the best part of the movie but it really felt like Finn was missing a reason to be there.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Brother Entropy posted:

the third act would still be garbage, just maybe less garbage without rose's confusing message of 'don't sacrifice yourself to save people' coming immediately after holdo sacrifices herself to save people

Actually the message is to fight for things you love and not against things that you hate. But go off against the best of the sequel tril

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Raccooon posted:

Lol never thought about that.

But if the Casino was Fin and Poe doing some caper poo poo riffing off each other. Its probably pops a lot better than Fin and Rose.

i mean, i was fine with the casino planet stuff until the conclusion is them patting themselves on the back for freeing some horses while the literal child slaves just get a fancy ring of the #Resistance brand

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I found the Palpatine transmission!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWbFni6_25Y

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Raccooon posted:

Going from enhanced human because of the force to full on magic.

Dude the first movie had a guy fading into nothing and sending telepathic messages after death. It was always magic, don't play that poo poo.

Also Finn and Poe should have done some hand stuff to each other at least, Jesus Christ, they seemed like the only folks enjoying each other's company in those films.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I didn't watch the last Jedi but I am truly shocked but Ray and fin arent getting together Because it is really obviously how it was set up to happen?? But much like Disney would never release Zootopia in today's environment, I think they realized that they would like to buckle down on the tacit racism

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

I wouldn't be surprised if, going forward, Disney just decides to place everything they do onwards in the time between the original and sequel trilogy, much like the Mandalorian.

This means they still get to create lots of new things, don't need to acknowledge the sequel trilogy at all and are also allowed to slather everything in nostalgia.

The sequels will just exist in a vacuum, never to be addressed again.

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
I hope they incorporate the new movie into the fabulous Galaxy's Edge theme park. After you wait in line to go to the cantina and experience all two of the rides for $130, a Palpatine cast member personally force yeets you back into the parking lot.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Mulva posted:

Dude the first movie had a guy fading into nothing and sending telepathic messages after death. It was always magic, don't play that poo poo.

Well felt like the rules were a little more defined to at least a living person. You get the magic poo poo when you are dead and can't impact much.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

ErrEff posted:

The sequels will just exist in a vacuum, never to be addressed again.

Nah they just couldn't help themselves, they put the first scene of the Lando And Random Ex-Stormtrooper Lady movie in at the end there.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Quantum Shart posted:

Actually the message is to fight for things you love and not against things that you hate. But go off against the best of the sequel tril

that's a wack-rear end :decorum: message

like, those two aren't mutually exclusive at all. you can love your allies and hate the people you're fighting against at the same time

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Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Vitamin P posted:

Best scene of the sequel trilogy honestly.



Yeah its loving depressing that the sequel trilogy opens with one of the best scenes in all of star wars then goes to complete poo poo.

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