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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Just Chamber posted:

But it also adds a nice class divide that if intentional would have been cool. The officers coming from high class affluent society, the Stormtroopers drafted from backwater planets. Though you'd need some cockney Stormtroopers to help that narrative. Though the British believing Americans are their lessers isn't exactly inaccurate.

Between that and none of even the minor the rebels like Dodonna, the pilots, or "death star in range in 15 minutes" control room guy having a British accent I'm almost certain it was a deliberate choice.

Hell, Red One sounds like he's from Erlanger Kentucky.

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Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Owlbear Camus posted:

Between that and none of even the minor the rebels like Dodonna, the pilots, or "death star in range in 15 minutes" control room guy having a British accent I'm almost certain it was a deliberate choice.

Hell, Red One sounds like he's from Erlanger Kentucky.

It's probably a deliberate choice born out of coincidence so to speak. The idea of villain with an English accent was already around by the time ANH came out I'm pretty sure.

TeaJay
Oct 9, 2012


SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Wait, are you liveposting while watching? Haha, just give us a rundown of the most ridiculous parts in real-time!

That kinda seems like a recipe for getting your phone thrown to a wall across the theater when the guy sitting next to you will be annoyed enough by you constantly lighting up your phone screen (turned up to maximum brightness, of course)

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Randarkman posted:

Thinking about it. Doesn't he kind of look like Frasier?

That admiral probably went home to complain about his lousy day at work at the Death Star having to deal with his ignoramus bosses who can't handle the truth to his brother Nigel, a meek lieutenant married to Maris the Hutt.

An Ounce of Gold
Jul 13, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
R2 just murdered Leia. I assume that's what happened because she just died all of a sudden while he watched.

poo poo, wasn't he there when Yoda died too? Hmmm

Just Chamber
Feb 10, 2014

WE MUST RETURN TO THE DANCE! THE NIGHT IS OURS!

An Ounce of Gold posted:

R2 just murdered Leia. I assume that's what happened because she just died all of a sudden while he watched.

poo poo, wasn't he there when Yoda died too? Hmmm

Did you not see him retract the pillow back? Bootleg copy?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Man star wars was better when it was in focus and didn't have all these gambling site pop up ads.

An Ounce of Gold
Jul 13, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Owlbear Camus posted:

Man star wars was better when it was in focus and didn't have all these gambling site pop up ads.

Yeah, bold decision by Disney

e: Wait, could the force ghosts in the OT actually touch things? Why can't ghost luke just appear in front of Palp and murder him since he can grab lightsabers?

An Ounce of Gold fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Dec 20, 2019

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Randarkman posted:

It's probably a deliberate choice born out of coincidence so to speak. The idea of villain with an English accent was already around by the time ANH came out I'm pretty sure.

Darth Vader himself being the obvious exception here, of course.

Then again, maybe that was foreshadowing as well :aaa:

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Lol david prowse was so petulant they didn't use his reedy little voice.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

An Ounce of Gold posted:

Yeah, bold decision by Disney

e: Wait, could the force ghosts in the OT actually touch things? Why can't ghost luke just appear in front of Palp and murder him since he can grab lightsabers?

Ghost Obi-Wan can sit down on a log and read his lines directly from the script.

Just Chamber
Feb 10, 2014

WE MUST RETURN TO THE DANCE! THE NIGHT IS OURS!

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Darth Vader himself being the obvious exception here, of course.

Then again, maybe that was foreshadowing as well :aaa:

Yea they all look down on the jumped up Yank, with his spiritual powers from the colonies.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Owlbear Camus posted:

Lol david prowse was so petulant they didn't use his reedy little voice.

That has to not be true. Have you heard the on set audio? it's not just his voice being wrong for the part, it's muffled by the helmet and sounds terrible, there was no way they weren't going to dub over his voice.

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Just Chamber posted:

Yea they all look down on the jumped up Yank, with his spiritual powers from the colonies.

A black Yank, at that (which comes across in spite of Lucas allegedly having told Jones he didn't want Vader to "sound black"). That Imperial jealousy coming out.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
You kind of have to feel for Prowse. All the iconic Vader stuff is someone else — the dialogue is Jones, the sword fighting is Bob Anderson, the breathing is Ben Burtt, the face is Sebastian Shaw, the ghost is Hayden. Kind of ridiculous.

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
Can we get the context in which the word "rear end" is said in the movie The Rise of Skywalker? We have seen the Snokes and chimp lab assistant. The rear end is all that remains.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

skasion posted:

You kind of have to feel for Prowse. All the iconic Vader stuff is someone else — the dialogue is Jones, the sword fighting is Bob Anderson, the breathing is Ben Burtt, the face is Sebastian Shaw, the ghost is Hayden. Kind of ridiculous.

His body acting, or whatever you call that when you move and gesticulate kind of exaggeratedly to compensate for not having your face be visible, is actually pretty drat good and does alot to convey emotion and intention to Vader's actions and dialogue.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



skasion posted:

You kind of have to feel for Prowse. All the iconic Vader stuff is someone else — the dialogue is Jones, the sword fighting is Bob Anderson, the breathing is Ben Burtt, the face is Sebastian Shaw, the ghost is Hayden. Kind of ridiculous.

Yeah I looked it up after being lovely about it a few posts ago. The way he tells it Lucas said he'd get a chance to do do the ADR and he found out his voice was replaced when the film released.

I was just remembered the part where he'd started deliberately loving up lines in ESB.

An Ounce of Gold
Jul 13, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Ok, why is she all the jedi? Is being a Jedi like being the Avatar or something? They keep mentioning generational poo poo, but it sure would have been cool to set that up in an earlier film.

Hagrid's voice, "You're a Jedi Ang!"

e: Does NO ONE die when they are thrown down a chasm? Luke jumps down and he lives in ESB, Palp in RotJ and he's fine, and now Kylo is just wall climbing back up? gently caress, if you are about to die in Star Wars I suggest just jumping into a pit. You'll be fine!

An Ounce of Gold fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 20, 2019

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

An Ounce of Gold posted:

e: Does NO ONE die when they are thrown down a chasm? Luke jumps down and he lives in ESB, Palp in RotJ and he's fine, and now Kylo is just wall climbing back up? gently caress, if you are about to die in Star Wars I suggest just jumping into a pit. You'll be fine!

There's a reason you keep hearing people say the movie is like a videogame.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Darth Maul gets cut in half and falls into a pit and survives.

I guess that explains why there are no railings in Star Wars.

Just Chamber
Feb 10, 2014

WE MUST RETURN TO THE DANCE! THE NIGHT IS OURS!

To be fair Darth Maul didnt fall into a pit, then explode and then have the planet explode around him

An Ounce of Gold
Jul 13, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
I'm done. I would say it's a disappointing ending to the saga if I hadn't already been disappointed by 7, 8, 1, 2, 3, and some of the goofy Han solo bits from 6.

At least this is bad in a different way?

E: The Mandalorian is good though...

E2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeK10F6iA8E

An Ounce of Gold fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Dec 20, 2019

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Just Chamber posted:

To be fair Darth Maul didnt fall into a pit, then explode and then have the planet explode around him

I guess the double explosions cancelled each other out...

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

An Ounce of Gold posted:

I would say it's a disappointing ending to the saga if I hadn't already been disappointed by 7, 8, 1, 2, 3, and some of the goofy Han solo bits from 6.

well dont worry there's no way this is the end of the saga disney is going to milk it for 50 more years

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

Star wars is a setting where they've had artificial gravity for thousands of years, so miles-deep metal tech trenches are actually incredibly safe and are a common feature in military bases, power stations, schools and public restrooms

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

Randarkman posted:

The guy Vader chokes is American though. Subsequent popular culture has overplayed the Britishness of the Imperials, which probably was mostly the result of where the films were primarily shot.

Admirals Ozzel and Piett Captain Needa General Veers Grand Moff Tarkin Moff Jerjerrod and like 15 other officers I'm not enough of a nerd to know suggest you're talking poo poo mate

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

An Ounce of Gold posted:

Ok, why is she all the jedi? Is being a Jedi like being the Avatar or something? They keep mentioning generational poo poo, but it sure would have been cool to set that up in an earlier film.

Hagrid's voice, "You're a Jedi Ang!"

e: Does NO ONE die when they are thrown down a chasm? Luke jumps down and he lives in ESB, Palp in RotJ and he's fine, and now Kylo is just wall climbing back up? gently caress, if you are about to die in Star Wars I suggest just jumping into a pit. You'll be fine!

Not only jedis get wisdom to their armor score against ranged attacks, they also have unlimited feather fall against pits, holes and ventilation shafts!

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

The only Star Wars movie with a lower Rotten Tomatoes average than Rise of Skywalker is The Phantom Menace. Even Solo and Attack of the Clones were "better" received by critics. This is not a good movie.

even phantom menace was. prior to the 3d re-release, TPM's score was like 63 or something.

the rat fandom
Apr 28, 2010

Randarkman posted:

I have the best idea for Rogue One, it shouldn't have been made.

An engineering flaw on something of that size and complexity, which is only exploited with a one in a million shot assisted by the force, is not a plot hole and actually makes way more sense than whatever garbage they used to justify the existence of Rogue One.

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:
goons are bad at watching movies

in rogue one, the design flaw is the fact that the reactor is volatile and can chain react and explode. galen erso says the plan should be to sneak someone onto the death star to plant a bomb next to the reactor. the exhaust port is not what galen put into the design.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

It is a million times easier to assume Space Nazis bought into their hype and thought the test model having a flaw they were fixing in the imperial flagship version was perfectly fine versus "oh man, I wonder why our design built by a guy we held hostage has a severe flaw in it, better build it anyway"

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZNDaqKza8Q

hot take

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Owlbear Camus posted:

It's exactly the kind of nice punchy world-building scene that the sequel trilogy needed more of. A few cast off lines about the emperor dissolving the senate and exercising dictatorship through governors like Tarkin helps loosely sketch in the world this story is taking place in. It's just the right amount, not the "galactic C-Span" of the PT, or the ST that really doesn't seem to care about providing much of a context for how the FO, Republic, and Resistance relate at all.

This is a huge problem with the sequel trilogy, period. There's been countless edits done by executives and marketers in the name of merchandising opportunities. Which is why the politics and galactic structure of the ST feels slapdash and cobbled together: Disney wants you to buy books and comics that delve into the timeline between RotJ and TFA. Same reason why pilots like Snap Wexley and Jess Pava have no context whatsoever in the movies. Read the comics about them. Also why Poe Dameron "dies" and comes back to life at the end of the movie. These are all decisions that were made in the name of maximum exposure at Target or Walmart, and why in many respects, the ST feels very small and shallow.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 20, 2019

the rat fandom
Apr 28, 2010

Horizon Burning posted:

goons are bad at watching movies

in rogue one, the design flaw is the fact that the reactor is volatile and can chain react and explode. galen erso says the plan should be to sneak someone onto the death star to plant a bomb next to the reactor. the exhaust port is not what galen put into the design.

Did they also state that in ANH?

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Horizon Burning posted:

goons are bad at watching movies

in rogue one, the design flaw is the fact that the reactor is volatile and can chain react and explode. galen erso says the plan should be to sneak someone onto the death star to plant a bomb next to the reactor. the exhaust port is not what galen put into the design.

GALEN ERSO posted:

My Stardust. Saw, the reactor module, that’s the key. That’s the place I’ve laid my trap. It’s well hidden and unstable, one blast to any part of it will destroy the entire station.

You’ll need the plans, the structural plans for the Death Star to find the reactor. I know there’s a complete engineering archive in the data vault at the Citadel Tower on Scarif. Any pressurized explosion to the reactor module will set off a chain reaction that will destroy the entire station...

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Thermal_exhaust_port

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

any porgs? Or pawgs?

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.
It's a good thing Rey didn't inherit her grandfather's looks.

... Which gets me thinking. When did old Palpy have his son? It couldn't have been before the events in episode 3 considering the ages of Rey and her father. So that means ugly old melty face Palpatine had sex. Try to get that image out of your head.


edit: added spoiler tags because I guess some people care.

Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Dec 20, 2019

Dean of Swing
Feb 22, 2012
Mandalorian finale is going to be a christmas special.

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Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Gianthogweed posted:

It's a good thing Rey didn't inherit her grandfather's looks.

... Which gets me thinking. When did old Palpy have his son? It couldn't have been more than 50 years before this film considering the age of Rey and her father. So that means ugly old melty face Palpatine had sex. Try to get that image out of your head.


edit: added spoiler tags because I guess some people care.

My understanding is there wasn't any boning involved. Grandpa Ovaltine used the same space cum shooting method to produce his son, who is Reys dad. Who had an eye on the back of his head, and is named Triclops lol.

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