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Popero posted:What happened to the auction anyway Advantages. Auctions moved from being "hey here's a bunch of food and comfort items and some of these might be booby traps" to "save your money to bid for the HII clue", and production just never bothered fixing it (by, say, taking the advantages away from the auction) so they took auctions away entirely.
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^^^  ^^^Popero posted:What happened to the auction anyway They stopped doing it because people just started waiting and saving up for the advantages
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Dec 22, 2019 18:24
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Popero posted:What happened to the auction anyway Jeff thinks it's bad television, which is so completely wrong
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Dec 22, 2019 18:25
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precision posted:Jeff thinks it's bad television, which is so completely wrong when was the last time something Good Television happened at an auction?
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Dec 22, 2019 18:26
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When I'm in charge of Survivor, the coconut-chop reward challenges are coming back.
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Dec 22, 2019 18:28
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Lone Goat posted:when was the last time something Good Television happened at an auction? Mike Holloway
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Dec 22, 2019 18:42
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Raxivace posted:Honestly if it had been Dean that had somehow been knocked out by the nullifier (Or in previous seasons people like Ben Driebergen or Chris Underwood), I think way fewer people would be complaining. The main issue with the nulifier was the coin flip to get it
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Dec 22, 2019 19:02
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Imagine being Janet and knowing you’d have a million dollars if Rob didn’t turn the coin upside down when it landed.
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Dec 22, 2019 19:57
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Pinterest Mom posted:When I'm in charge of Survivor, the coconut-chop reward challenges are coming back. Are those the challenges where the players players get like 3 'lives' and the other players try to deliberately end those lives? Because yeah, those challenges really do need to come back.
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Dec 22, 2019 19:58
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Well she got 100k so I’m sure she’ll be ok.
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Dec 22, 2019 20:05
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I kinda think it would be cool if idols could cancel each other out. Every idol is also a nullifier. It functions as defense and offense, so you have to choose how to use it, and more player decision making is never a bad thing. Example: You are in the majority. Your target stands up to play an idol. You have an idol of your own that no one knows about. You now have options. Do you A. Do nothing, gambling that the minority didn't vote for you. You risk going home, but if you don't, you remain unexposed to your alliance, and keep your idol for future use when it could be even more helpful. B. Play your idol to nullify theirs. You protect your entire alliance and ensure the correct target goes home, but expose yourself to treachery in the future now that they know you can find idols and that you are vulnerable. And that is, of course, assuming they don't already think you're vulnerable, and aren't coming for you tonight. C. Maybe you've been getting weird vibes from them lately. Maybe it was a really crazy tribal. Either way, you find yourself thinking; "what if my alliance voted for me?" If they betrayed you, and your play your idol as a nullifier to protect them, you go out looking like the biggest chump in the world. So why not just play the idol on yourself? It's the only option that guarantees your own survival no matter what. But it also makes you look selfish and paranoid if they didn't betray you, and turns you into an even bigger threat if they did. Every option has its ups and downs, and it's up to the players to decide how they want to play it. And that's not even getting into the possibility of having two idols...
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Dec 22, 2019 20:10
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mancalamania posted:Imagine being Janet and knowing you’d have a million dollars if Rob didn’t turn the coin upside down when it landed. Or if the producers had sent Tommy to IOI instead of Dean. Tommy, to be consistent with the game he says he was playing, would have turned down the coin flip. No flip, no Nullifier in play and again, Janet ends up winning.
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Dec 22, 2019 20:10
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Anything that helps majority alliances is bad. Everything should encourage breaking them up.
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Dec 22, 2019 21:41
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TMMadman posted:Are those the challenges where the players players get like 3 'lives' and the other players try to deliberately end those lives? Because yeah, those challenges really do need to come back. yep Zesty posted:Anything that helps majority alliances is bad. Everything should encourage breaking them up. remove the vote from survivor in 2020
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Dec 22, 2019 22:02
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Impeach a jury member
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Dec 22, 2019 23:07
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Pinterest Mom posted:Advantages. this is like the easiest fix in the world and i don't get why they haven't done it. just have jeff straight up say 'no advantages in the auction, if you see something you want, you better get it!'
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Dec 23, 2019 00:01
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It's funny that AU Survivor has arguably more broken auction rewards than US but they still manage to keep them in. In 2018, somebody won a (covered) ability to duplicate everything that people won at the auction. So he got a copy of every food item, his home video, etc. Then in 2019, somebody won a box to be opened at camp that gave them everything that was at the auction and an idol.
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Dec 23, 2019 02:40
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I love the coconut chop challenge because it usually forces the bottom member(s) of an alliance to realize they're on the bottom and try and do something about it in response. I can do without the food auction, since it doesn't seem like you often get anything as good as like the Randy/cookie drama out of it.
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Dec 23, 2019 02:58
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Raxivace posted:I love the coconut chop challenge because it usually forces the bottom member(s) of an alliance to realize they're on the bottom and try and do something about it in response. My fav was the south Pacific version of this where it was a weird board game, and it was the immunity challenge, and then the person on the bottom didn't/couldn't do it poo poo about it.
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Dec 23, 2019 03:56
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Lone Goat posted:My fav was the south Pacific version of this where it was a weird board game, and it was the immunity challenge, and then the person on the bottom didn't/couldn't do it poo poo about it. Edna had a real shot, Brandon was just being... Brandon and intentionally made his losing moves to block her off.
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Dec 23, 2019 04:04
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The Bloop posted:Impeach a jury member what if every survivor vote had to be 2/3 or it went to rocks i was joking when i wrote this but now i'm realizing it's better than at least 3 of the past few seasons' gimmicks
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Dec 23, 2019 05:13
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Deceptive posted:Mike Holloway that was actually extremely boring because he didn't even go through with denying everyone their family letters
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Dec 23, 2019 06:28
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Lone Goat posted:that was actually extremely boring because he didn't even go through with denying everyone their family letters he wasn't going to deny other people their letters, he just wasn't going to buy his own. sadly he not only tried to not buy it, therefore giving away his plan, and then tried to walk it back after everyone was already mad at him.
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Dec 23, 2019 06:52
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Adus posted:he wasn't going to deny other people their letters, he just wasn't going to buy his own. sadly he not only tried to not buy it, therefore giving away his plan, and then tried to walk it back after everyone was already mad at him. oh yeah i remembered it wrong, thanks but what happened was even less interesting than what i said!
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Dec 23, 2019 06:54
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precision posted:I'd like to see a season with no immunity idols except the ones from challenges I agree and I feel like there are lots of fans who share this opinion, but isn't Jeff on record essentially telling us to STFU and get used to all kinds of advantage gimmicks because that's what he likes and what he thinks the audience wants to see?
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Dec 23, 2019 15:21
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I think if fire tokens replace hidden immunities then they could be a way to slow down the rate of advantages entering the game. The hunt for them will still be entertaining and the players are given more choice for how to use them. I do think it’s amazing that production’s attempts to shake up the game with advantages has now led to the opposite happening.
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Dec 23, 2019 19:10
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No, tokens need to be public. Give them out publicly and have the contestants be in the know when token exchanges take place. The social politicking of garnets in the genius are what make them fun. If they were secret they would suck.
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Dec 23, 2019 20:16
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They ever let the audience vote for anyone? If nothing else it would be nice for the fan favorite to get a Sia kickback each season.
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Dec 23, 2019 20:19
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Invalid Validation posted:They ever let the audience vote for anyone? If nothing else it would be nice for the fan favorite to get a Sia kickback each season. There used to be a fan vote to give a big cash prize to a player, Sprint used to sponsor it but now they don't anymore. I think Cochran won the last one?
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Dec 23, 2019 20:24
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I'm curious if/when a contestant will start meta gaming for the Sia money.
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Dec 23, 2019 20:26
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Lone Goat posted:There used to be a fan vote to give a big cash prize to a player, Sprint used to sponsor it but now they don't anymore. I think Cochran won the last one? Wasn't it invented so Rupert would get money
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The Bloop posted:Wasn't it invented so Rupert would get money I wasn't watching back then, so I don't know if the first Sprint Fan Favourite (or whatever it was called) was Rupert's first season, but for an all-returnee season they upped it from the normal 100k to 1 million and Rupert won that one.
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Dec 23, 2019 21:03
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bagrada posted:I'm curious if/when a contestant will start meta gaming for the Sia money. didn't Wendy do that
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Dec 23, 2019 21:51
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SweetJahasus posted:No, tokens need to be public. Give them out publicly and have the contestants be in the know when token exchanges take place. The social politicking of garnets in the genius are what make them fun. If they were secret they would suck. Fair point and this has now got me wondering what happens to tokens when someone is voted out.
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Dec 23, 2019 22:42
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IcePhoenix posted:didn't Wendy do that Looks like that maybe was her plan. Instead of her that season it went to Devens for being entertaining, Aurora for growing up in foster care, and to Joe Anglim for cutting his hair.
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Dec 23, 2019 22:46
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IcePhoenix posted:didn't Wendy do that there is not a chance that a single action Wendy took could be ascribed to "strategy"
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Dec 23, 2019 23:16
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mancalamania posted:Imagine being Janet and knowing you’d have a million dollars if Rob didn’t turn the coin upside down when it landed. That pissed me off. Don't pretty much all sport games do a clean toss and let it hit the ground?
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Dec 24, 2019 05:16
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It ticks me off but I'm okayish with it with normal coins where it's a 50/50 anyway. With the size and definition of that nullifier he could easily have felt how it fell and engineered the result.
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bagrada posted:I'm curious if/when a contestant will start meta gaming for the Sia money. When we hear someone on the island singing, I'm gonna swing on the coconut tree on the coconut tree-ee-ee I'm gonna play like Tribal council doesn't exist One two three one two three chop Throw me another coconut unitl I lose count
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