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Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

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UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal

volts5000 posted:

What do you do when your opponents point out your average donation is really high? Hold a “lowest donation” contest to skew the average down, of course!

https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1209894635243548673?s=21

wouldn't this literally cost money for transaction fees?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

UCS Hellmaker posted:

wouldn't this literally cost money for transaction fees?

Probably. But the point is to deflect wine cave criticisms in the most missing the point way possible. Its a ruse for the very stupid, so its going to work completely with the Pete crowd

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS

Cpt_Obvious posted:

“What’s a good way to insult my big donors while also alienating my small donors?”

Nah those mega-donors want him to have more grassroots support. They know their money is good, but it’s only good if he wins. Getting people to donate pocket change still creates the invested effect, boosts his raw unique donators number, and lowers his average donation amount, which are all positives to the Democratic base and can be touted in future campaign messages. It’s a way of cheesing the numbers. Bernie does it too but obviously he comes off as a lot more sincere, and asking for $1 is obviously very different than asking for 1 cent. A dollar is a positive number in your ledger while a penny probably does technically cost you money to process.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

volts5000 posted:

What do you do when your opponents point out your average donation is really high? Hold a “lowest donation” contest to skew the average down, of course!

https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1209894635243548673?s=21

This is so loving transparent that it could only possibly work on the most hardcore of team politics Dems, so I guess I've gotta give some very small props to Pete for at least knowing his audience.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Reminds me of Gillibrand trying to make a debate threshold by offering free T-shirts for one dollar donations.

Using her Wall Street cash to solicit donations for merch

Built 4 Cuban Linux
Jul 15, 2007

i own america
I truly feel that Bernie winning Iowa would give him the nomination, so I hope the campaign goes all out and spends everything they've got. I've been giving money and may actually drive out to Iowa that weekend (though I'll probably just phone bank).

It still feels like there's a lot of faith in the magic Bernie enthusiasm gap, that might not actually materialize.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

I finally managed to get through to my centrist family yesterday. Got the whole bunch of them pretty upset about some of the things Pete Biden and Warren are doing and saying. When I said “he’s gonna win” I heard some “I hope so’s”

The sad part about arguing with centrists is convincing them that good things are possible.

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

Cpt_Obvious posted:

“What’s a good way to insult my big donors while also alienating my small donors?”

Yeah, that's a super lovely way to treat both of his small donors.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Pictured: Adam Driver making a small donation to Pete's campaign

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005


Hunter's just out of frame, being loved too.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1210204017470693376?s=20

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.


quote:

“He can’t win the nomination,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of the center-left group Third Way, adding that Sanders’ uptick is simply him “bouncing around between his ceiling and his floor a little bit more than people had thought he would.”

The center-left group Third Way

CENTER

LEFT

Edit: and from this article I have learned that not only is Gray Davis still alive, journalists actually ask him his opinion on things. I'm not sure why this happens, but it happened here.

Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Dec 26, 2019

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Wicked Them Beats posted:

The center-left group Third Way

CENTER

LEFT

Edit: and from this article I have learned that not only is Gray Davis still alive, journalists actually ask him his opinion on things. I'm not sure why this happens, but it happened here.

$

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

People are going to call Sanders the Democratic Trump if he rides a "party outsider" populist wave to the nomination and it's going to give all of us migraines.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

sean10mm posted:

People are going to call Sanders the Democratic Trump if he rides a "party outsider" populist wave to the nomination and it's going to give all of us migraines.

What if a President who didn't suck dog poo poo gave as few fucks about decorum and tradition as Donny?

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF
I'm just getting around to watching the rest of the PBS primary and can I just say how all of these politicians are so goddamn out of touch. I know they have to get the "rust belt vote" or "middle america". I live on the coast and when they talk about people sitting down and doing their bills at the end of the month at the "kitchen table", well guess what! I don't have a kitchen table! My kitchen is a small hallway because I live in an apartment. And I'm far from the only one. These analogies are so loving dated. I do my bills on a laptop. Because I'm under 70 years old. Talk about rent control. Talk about anything that affects me. I would love someone to talk about rent control since the concept of buying a house is absolutely beyond my imagination.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
This is a really interesting segment

https://youtu.be/grUM4rszFGY

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
https://twitter.com/ComradCapacitor/status/1209957683761156097?s=20

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

sean10mm posted:

People are going to call Sanders the Democratic Trump if he rides a "party outsider" populist wave to the nomination and it's going to give all of us migraines.

they're already doing that all of the time

volts5000
Apr 7, 2009

It's electric. Boogie woogie woogie.

sean10mm posted:

People are going to call Sanders the Democratic Trump if he rides a "party outsider" populist wave to the nomination and it's going to give all of us migraines.

They're already doing that. I've seen "He's always angry" and "His supporters chanted 'Lock Him Up'". It's horseshoe theory in real life.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

this is literally a Rand Paul argument

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

kidkissinger posted:

they're already doing that all of the time

Hell, they were doing it back in '16 when they were playing up the whole "they're both political outsiders!" narrative.

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

kidkissinger posted:

they're already doing that all of the time

It’s awesome when play up Bernie being as big of a misogynist as Trump.

The guy who supported Planned Parenthood and equal pay for the last 30 years is just as bad (or worse) for women than a (likely) child rapist and unapologetic serial sexual assaulter.

It’s been said may times, but Liberals really do hate socialists more than fascists.

Meatball
Mar 2, 2003

That's a Spicy Meatball

Pillbug

RasperFat posted:



It’s been said may times, but Liberals really do hate socialists more than fascists.

If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Meatball posted:

If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.

They're already holding him to standards they get mad at us for

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Meatball posted:

If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.

Christ, I wonder how many Jill Steins and Gary Johnsons will come lurching out of the woodwork this time around to profit off of the Anybody But Bernie and Never Trump crowds.

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp

the_steve posted:

Christ, I wonder how many Jill Steins and Gary Johnsons will come lurching out of the woodwork this time around to profit off of the Anybody But Bernie and Never Trump crowds.

If Johnson has a viable strategy to be a spoiler against Trump I'll convert my savings account to $1s and make it rain on his campaign.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Meatball posted:

If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.

Campaigning for Bernie just to loudly chant Vote Blue No Matter Who when he wins.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Meatball posted:

If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.

https://twitter.com/pavanvan/status/1209951616515883009?s=19

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

What the gently caress is wrong with these people?

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

mycomancy posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with these people?

I remember in '16, that was one of the (many) criticisms leveled against Hillary, that she never did anything to earn anyone's vote and simply expected it as her due, and how dare we loving peasants expect her to appeal to her voters.

So this is just some rear end in a top hat trying to gloat over some false equivalence poo poo so they can feel smug and get one over on the Berniebros of 4 years past.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Meatball posted:

If bernie wins the primary the "vote blue no matter who" crew will go to gigantic lengths to explain why they're not voting for bernie.

I'm on the vote blue no matter who (in the general, push primaries as left as you can get) crew and I will be thrilled if Bernie takes the nom.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


mycomancy posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with these people?

I remember an old GOP coworker of mine who called his vote “sacred.” That’s some legit dementia. L

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Sorry double post

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


How are u posted:

I'm on the vote blue no matter who (in the general, push primaries as left as you can get) crew and I will be thrilled if Bernie takes the nom.
Yeah, same here. I'm "vote blue no matter who" hoping that Sanders wins the nomination.

If Biden wins, I'll vote for him but I won't be happy about it.

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

I mean, those donut people are supposed to be Bernie’s foes, right? The fact that this was tweeted at all tells me two things:

1. They are actually starting to believe/notice that Bernie could win the primary and is probably the favorite, and
2. They are already preparing themselves psychologically to vote for this guy they have hated for years.

This is all very encouraging. I worry about the centrist parts of the party working hard to keep the nomination from Bernie at the convention, but I’m less worried about him not getting support in the general from those people. Liberals hate Trump way more than some of you guys give them credit for; and they will turn out to defeat him, even if they still harbor negativity towards Bernie.

Mellow Seas fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Dec 27, 2019

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Someone needs to redo the McCain family pic where a hook removes his adopted child, for Biden:

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Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
When does the voting take place?

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