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value-brand cereal posted:Cross quoting this post. It's the library mentioned a page back, you know, the 24 million one? I have a phobia of see-through floors and I would not be able to use this library. Ridiculous.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I have a phobia of see-through floors and I would not be able to use this library. Ridiculous. A person using a cane wouldn't be able to use it either. I don't know how these things are done, but it seems odd that either there wsn't any design review, or that there was but nobody thought about the space being used by actual people.
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Those stairs were inspired by an office umbrella stand.
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Dec 28, 2019 08:37
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The inaccessible upskirt library is dumb poo poo and the architect equivalent of a teenaged artist going "it's not poo poo, it's just my style, maaaaan." It's cool to look at, of course, but it shouldn't have left the realm of form-over-function solutions like movies and video games. mutata fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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Dec 28, 2019 09:19
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Nothing impresses donors like making the news over dumb poo poo.
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Dec 28, 2019 09:26
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That library is impressively ugly. I say “impressive” because there are a lot of libraries out there and most of them aren’t ugly at all.
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TofuDiva posted:I don't know how these things are done, but it seems odd that either there wsn't any design review, or that there was but nobody thought about the space being used by actual people.
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Dec 28, 2019 09:58
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Love to sit on the bottom floor of a library reading a book while sand and dirt and literal poo poo rains down on me from above, it's very soothing.
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mutata posted:The inaccessible upskirt library is dumb poo poo and the architect equivalent of a teenaged artist going "it's not poo poo, it's just my style, maaaaan." I'm curious how the gently caress that got built. Someone, at some point, had to look at it and go 'Okay, the ADA accommodation cost is going to murder us...'.
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there wolf posted:Is there some kind of regulation that requires you to use a plumber, because swapping a sink is pretty easy to DIY. Any changes to these systems have to go through the house board. The building manager requires that anyone doing anything to these systems has liability insurance as a matter of course. The other reason is that our apartment doesn't have its own water mains shutoff valve. Thus I'd have to:
there wolf posted:Also get some baskets to set on that shelf in front of the mirror so you have somewhere to put what you aren't going to keep in a drawer. 
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Dec 28, 2019 13:09
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That looks like one hell of a crazy bidet on the right there.
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There are no shut offs to the hot/cold water lines directly under that sink...??
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I have a phobia of see-through floors and I would not be able to use this library. Ridiculous. Sounds like this bathroom is for you! (Trigger warning, see-though floor) 
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Sirotan posted:There are no shut offs to the hot/cold water lines directly under that sink...?? On closer inspection there are, I just mistook them for simple fittings. Swapping the sink might not be out of the question after all. It would solve another issue by allowing me to chose a sink drain pipe with a connector for the washer drain hose.
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Dec 28, 2019 14:17
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Liquid Communism posted:I'm curious how the gently caress that got built. Someone, at some point, had to look at it and go 'Okay, the ADA accommodation cost is going to murder us...'. Someone may have posted this already (apologies if it was and I missed it), but it turns out that not only is it nonfunctional design, it's an art and architecture library. Which either makes it inevitable or particularly egregious. Or both.
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It’s, like, an accreditation requirement that the architects’ hall has to be the biggest turd on campus.
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value-brand cereal posted:Cross quoting this post. It's the library mentioned a page back, you know, the 24 million one?
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Like, I could definitely see some sort of long-term storage area having weird stuff to ventilate the books ideally, but the difference between that and the main library in function is huge.
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The suggestion that the floor grating is necessary to ventilate the books is preposterous. It’s like the architects read books from the nineteenth century and decided to build a sanatorium crossed with a panopticon.
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PetraCore posted:So they built an entire library that is 100% not wheelchair or mobility device accessible on a university campus? Are there not lifts (elevators) for wheel bound folks?
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Architect: I want people to feel like they're inside a book. It's like poetry, it rhymes. Also architect: This book is full of upskirts.
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wooger posted:Are there not lifts (elevators) for wheel bound folks? Probably a pully system where you pull yourselves up with your bootstraps
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Dec 28, 2019 17:56
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That grating allows for plenty of air flow between the vertical layers of flammable material...
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Dec 28, 2019 18:44
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deoju posted:That grating allows for plenty of air flow between the vertical layers of flammable material...
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wooger posted:Are there not lifts (elevators) for wheel bound folks? whoa now, there's no room for logic in this thread, we're busy roasting the six pictures we got and making the wild assumptions that nobody involved in the entirety of the two-year, multi million dollar project in planning, design, construction, review, or county inspection, ever considered ada compliance quote:Designed and constructed to be fully ADA compliant, the library's design plans were reviewed by the City of Ithaca's director of code enforcement before construction. As the authority with jurisdiction over the project, the city inspected the facility upon completion and confirmed its compliance with ADA standards. To aid individuals with mobility issues, all levels of the stacks have elevator access. The grated floors in the stacks can accommodate individuals with wheelchairs, canes, and other similar assistive devices. The library also offers a paging service for all its visitors, whereby library staff retrieves books upon the patron's request. oh wait
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Fine, they have elevators. Most multi-story libraries do, since the shelvers have to get the books up there somehow. Please explain how anyone dependent on a cane can use that floor.
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PRADA SLUT posted:whoa now, there's no room for logic in this thread, we're busy roasting the six pictures we got and making the wild assumptions that nobody involved in the entirety of the two-year, multi million dollar project in planning, design, construction, review, or county inspection, ever considered ada compliance Hey! Looking up relevant information and posting it is getting in the way of righteous indignation. How dare you. (I kinda like it. I'd rather have something interesting vs another committee built office cube)
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Dec 29, 2019 00:25
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You could say that library really embodies the idea of looking up.
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Ok, I got a cross post question for my hosed up library defenders here: how do you clean it without getting water and soap on the books below?
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Dec 29, 2019 00:34
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All the dust and dirt falls through so you just mop the bottom floor as needed, boom
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Bad Munki posted:All the dust and dirt falls through so you just mop the bottom floor as needed, boom And the tops of the books and shelves?
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Fine, they have elevators. Most multi-story libraries do, since the shelvers have to get the books up there somehow. It probably depends on the cane. Some canes with big rubber feet may work fine. It would feel less steady than a solid surface, but the slats are close enough together that canes won't fall through which is what matters to people who don't use canes. Followed by "if their canes don't work they can just hold on to the railings". It would be harrowing to the visually impaired. The visually impaired likely weren't considered since it's a place for books and most people think vision goes fine->a bit nearsighted->utter blackness In reality many people who are seriously visually impaired or legally blind can read with assistive devices and have every right to use a library. My mom can't ride down escalators unless she goes directly behind someone else, because she can't clearly see the steps even when the ends are marked with yellow paint, but she can still read most books. Likewise people with a variety of phobias and perceptual difficulties would find the stacks inaccessible. But those kinds of disabilities aren't usually considered. I bet they are considering it fully accessible because if you can't access the stacks for whatever reason you can always ask a staff member to retrieve items for you.  Having enough staff on hand to constantly fetch books for the 2% (or whatever) of patrons who find the stacks inaccessible isn't the designer's problem.
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Ok, I got a cross post question for my hosed up library defenders here: how do you clean it without getting water and soap on the books below? Just use some canned air on the model. Tssst tssst see easy.
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falz posted:And the tops of the books and shelves? They're covered on top by more books
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I'm imagining trying to walk in stiletto heels on that grate and it's nightmare fuel. Only Rihanna can do that.  
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deoju posted:That grating allows for plenty of air flow between the vertical layers of flammable material... Bad library design chat cross-posting: shame on an IGA posted:Oh my loving god the ventilation plan is literally "let's make the entire building full of dry paper a giant chimney flue"
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Zamboni Rodeo posted:Bad library design chat cross-posting: goddamn this design firm loooves bare concrete voids and levels and using stairs as seating       aaaaaaaaaaaah  Even if there are elevators somewhere in these things there's no way they are disability-friendly. Or human-friendly.
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The Bloop posted:Sounds like this bathroom is for you! thanks, I hate it
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Youth Decay posted:goddamn this design firm loooves bare concrete voids and levels and using stairs as seating Looks like one of the Amazon buildings in Seattle. It's lovely to be in and move around.
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