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Samuringa posted:Since I posted it in the Chat thread, might as well double here Samuringa posted:Yea, it has always been flash over substance and this time they're going even more overboard on the flashiness I still can't get over the loving backhoe roaring in the cutscene  I'm also glad to see summons. Having only Disgaea 5 and DQ11 as the only new-ish RPGS that I've played recently I missed them. Although with Disgaea any Tera level spell is basically a summon in its own right.
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Sakurazuka posted:The desert in Secret of Evermore that stopped me getting any further because I didn't realise you were just supposed to walk over it and thought it was one of those endlessly repeating areas with a gimmick and gave up when I couldn't find it. Saved me from playing any more of that crap. I remember getting stuck in an attic labyrinth later as a dog, so you probably got off lightly
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Tales of Woe posted:in japan, yes. no date for the english version yet. Thank you. Also, what the crap Google?
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Scarlet Grace has a ton of good QOL changes but goddamn the requirements for learning new roles is obtuse and really grindy. Like they took 1 step forward in terms of ease of sparking techs, but this is just terrible.
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isn't it the latest game from akitoshi "i don't gotta explain poo poo" kawazu sounds on-brand for him
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Shinjobi posted:Just picked up DQ Builders 2. While it's more minecraft than standard JRPG, I am loving the Dragon Quest style to the whole thing. Got it on ps4, which means occasional bouts of tiny fonts and not the most precise controls, but drat this game is charming as hell. dqb2 is so good, please post your builds (if you want) Snooze Cruise posted:5. cookie I'm sorry but your number one choice is highly illegal, please choose another
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Are there any modern SRPG games as good as Fire Emblem: Three Houses? I'm not too familiar with the genre outside of Fire Emblem and Valkyria Chronicles.
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I don't think there's any other srpg series that's as comparably huge so it makes sense to not hear about other games so much. I think Front Mission might be closest in terms of size? oh you changed your question. sneaky.. I don't really know about modern srpgs though V oh yeah I forgot about SRW
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That's because outside of Fire Emblem and I guess Super Robot Wars there's like one zero budget SRPG released every two years that no one plays.
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Sakurazuka posted:That's because outside of Fire Emblem and I guess Super Robot Wars there's like one zero budget SRPG released every two years that no one plays.
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disgaea is the other active series that people actually play but i don't know much about it or whether it's comparable.
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Dec 29, 2019 23:37
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Disgaea is mostly about working out ways to efficiently grind to make numbers go up forever.
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Disgaea is fun if you don't mind the fact that it's infinite grind and reincarnation system is intentionally designed to utterly crush any other significant game mechanics.
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Zore posted:Disgaea is mostly about working out ways to efficiently grind to make numbers go up forever. The old games also have funny cut scenes
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Is Disgaea actually still active? I thought Nippon Ichi was dying
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The Battletech turn-based game is pretty good, just recently came out with an expansion. Banner Saga series, Into the Breach, Mario+Rabbids are good.
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cheetah7071 posted:Is Disgaea actually still active? I thought Nippon Ichi was dying I think their death is a slow-acting on-going thing. Either way, there's quite a catalogue of games to check out if you're someone who's never played one of their games.
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Yeah, Disgaea used to be notable but has seemed to lost out on its popularity. How does the series differ from Fire Emblem? EDIT - Actually Disgaea 5 seems to have done reasonably well, at least on the Switch.
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cheetah7071 posted:Is Disgaea actually still active? I thought Nippon Ichi was dying They put out a gacha game that immediately went into hell maintenance for six months. I think it recently came back up but obviously not ideal considering I think a Disgaea mobage was their plan to stop dying
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punk rebel ecks posted:Yeah, Disgaea used to be notable but has seemed to lost out on its popularity. Disgaea 4 & 5 are probably your better bets in terms of quality of life improvements and content. They're very tongue-in-cheek games that don't take themselves seriously and revel in their excess. It can be fun if you're the sort of person who enjoys breaking a game over your knee with it's own mechanics.
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You can get through the main story of most disgaea games with smart play, but that's not most of the content in the game, and the postgame throws walls in your face that demand you just make your numbers bigger. The plots are generally less serious than fire emblem: now we do war crimes.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Are there any modern SRPG games as good as Fire Emblem: Three Houses? I'm not too familiar with the genre outside of Fire Emblem and Valkyria Chronicles. A bit different, but Mutant Year Zero is quite good and has a interesting stealth mechanic you have to use to take advantage by lowering the number of enemies before you start more traditional turn based strategy combat.
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Some of the more interesting post-game content in Disgaea games are akin to puzzles you need to solve. But really 99% of the time post-game you're just gonna find yourself grinding 1000+ levels at a time and reincarnating for higher stat gains ad nauseam just so you can attempt the next post-game section. The main story can usually be beat within 40 hours give or take.
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disgaea 4 had a legit good plot and also has the least time spent with Weird Children, so play that one.
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Countblanc posted:disgaea 4 had a legit good plot and also has the least time spent with Weird Children, so play that one. They had the best cast, by far. They played off eachother well and had distinct personalities rather than walking tropes, like most Disgaea characters are. Also, the cast were specific types of demons(vampire, werewolf, reaper, etc.) rather than just generic Demon Overlords that look like they're 12.
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The main campaigns of Disgaea are full-length JRPGs and haven't been grindy since disgaea 2. It's not like the postgame is the only experience
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Some of the more interesting post-game content in Disgaea games are akin to puzzles you need to solve. But really 99% of the time post-game you're just gonna find yourself grinding 1000+ levels at a time and reincarnating for higher stat gains ad nauseam just so you can attempt the next post-game section. These games sound terrible.
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get this, they're not Except 3.
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But 3 was hilarious. Remember that one joke where school in Hell is the opposite of what it is on Earth?
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Oh the only joke in the game? Yeah I remember.
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disgaea postgames are grindfests, but the main game is just a solid SRPG with some wacky mechanics.
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Disgaea 1 doesn't really hold up mechanically, and 2 is reaaaaally pushing it, but D2 (not to be confused with Disgaea 2, because of course) and 3, 4, and 5 are all fun mechanically. D2 and 3 have pretty bad stories though.
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There's that new Vanillaware robot SRPG/mystery(?) VN, 13 Sentinels?
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Countblanc posted:Disgaea 1 doesn't really hold up mechanically, and 2 is reaaaaally pushing it, but D2 (not to be confused with Disgaea 2, because of course) and 3, 4, and 5 are all fun mechanically. D2 and 3 have pretty bad stories though.
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Caphi posted:There's that new Vanillaware robot SRPG/mystery(?) VN, 13 Sentinels? Oh yeah that one game they showed off years ago but still hasn't released. Im not sure if we've even seen gameplay footage?
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Elephant Parade posted:I played Disgaea 1 a few years ago and had a lot of fun. It might feel a bit basic if you've played later Disgaea games--I wouldn't know--but as an introduction to the series, it remains novel, engaging, and playable even today That's good to know, I'm definitely coming at it as someone who played it back in high school and then tried to go back 15 years later.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Oh yeah that one game they showed off years ago but still hasn't released. Im not sure if we've even seen gameplay footage? I think it's out. I got the demo and played a few of the chapters (which seem to just be the whole prologue) and it's interesting enough.
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Yeah it came out in late November in Japan. It alternates between the 2D sidescrolling VN style sections and occasional combat. The combat is seems more like a simulation game rather than strictly SRPGish, it's hard to describe. They had a weird ad where Yoko Taro recommended buying it despite only playing for 3 hours, mostly cause he wants to shill Vanillaware cause he likes them.
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punk rebel ecks posted:These games sound terrible. They're not. My *very badly made* point is that you're better off playing the main plot and ignoring the extra content unless you're really into that sort of thing. Some people totally dig spending hundreds of hours diving into the randomly generated Item World and such. I wouldn't call any of them bad, as they all follow a pretty similar formula. They each star an entirely new cast and entirely new plot, with some returning as guests or unlockables here and there. Disgaea 2 and 3 are probably the low point, storywise, with each game nonetheless adding more features and content. D2(a direct sequel to the first one), 4 and 5 are typically considered to be the better ones, but even Disgaea 1 can be fun to play through still. The combat systems are pretty tight, if a bit simplistic in the older titles, and you can completely ignore all the ridiculous Lvl 9999 shenanigans and still have a good time.
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Didn't know that the game was out in Japan already. I'll probably pick it up if the consensus is good. I've liked all of Vanillaware's other titles.Tin Can Hit Man posted:They're not. My *very badly made* point is that you're better off playing the main plot and ignoring the extra content unless you're really into that sort of thing. Some people totally dig spending hundreds of hours diving into the randomly generated Item World and such. I see. I may check the series out then. I'm shocked that I haven't played more SRPGs.
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