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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Any early numbers coming out for how various chains have done this year now that Christmas is over? In particular JCPenney, Macys and the other chains slowly (or not-so-slowly) being smothered.

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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Invalid Validation posted:

When it’s taxpayer money they’ll give their buddies a shitload more than they should. I work for the state and they rent out the building we work in and I guarantee you it’s for much more than anybody else would pay.
I work for the state and we spend a ridiculous amount of effort to follow rules about not paying sales tax. We often go with more expensive vendors because the cheaper option would involve going through the hell of setting up sales tax exemption, and I've wasted countless hours recovering less than $50, total, over the course of my career, in sales tax.

I'm not ashamed to say that my department buys a lot from Amazon, because Amazon doesn't make me physically print out paperwork and mail it to Vancouver and wait four weeks for their accounting department to mail back more paperwork asking for additional information and blah, blah, blah.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Horseshoe theory posted:

Any early numbers coming out for how various chains have done this year now that Christmas is over? In particular JCPenney, Macys and the other chains slowly (or not-so-slowly) being smothered.

I'm not sure Christmas is really over until February, given how ingrained Christmas commercialism is in western society (sales! sales! sales!)

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Sodomy Hussein posted:

I'm not sure Christmas is really over until February, given how ingrained Christmas commercialism is in western society (sales! sales! sales!)

Poppycock! Valentine's Day items are being displayed as we speak!

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

suck my woke dick posted:

When the rental pool Dells get rotated out after 3 years it's awesome because you can buy them second hand for basically scrap prices and fulfil your own office's needs for computers that run Office and don't break on the cheap.

My first tech job was at a “computer recycling company” that received massive cardboard boxes on pallets full of these computers by the truckloads. We cleaned them, wiped everything, sent some of them to schools within the state, put others on eBay, and the owner of the company had a retail computer shop so he would just grab the cleanest best ones and take them in the back of his pickup to his store and sell them for ~$300-500.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Mister Facetious posted:

Poppycock! Valentine's Day items are being displayed as we speak!

I feel a deep, visceral anger over the fact that so much of retail is just swapping out one holiday's bland, commercialized bullshit for another holiday's bland, commercialized bullshit. Even then there's so much overlap, especially when it comes to Christmas. Like gently caress you Christmas, you gobbled up Thanksgiving a matter of decades ago leave Halloween alone and stop showing up in loving August.

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

ToxicSlurpee posted:

I feel a deep, visceral anger over the fact that so much of retail is just swapping out one holiday's bland, commercialized bullshit for another holiday's bland, commercialized bullshit. Even then there's so much overlap, especially when it comes to Christmas. Like gently caress you Christmas, you gobbled up Thanksgiving a matter of decades ago leave Halloween alone and stop showing up in loving August.

We will not stop fighting the War on Christmas until it is forced back across the Thanksgiving DMZ, and anyone who says otherwise is a dirty appeaser who would see Labor Day swallowed next.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Complications posted:

We will not stop fighting the War on Christmas until it is forced back across the Thanksgiving DMZ, and anyone who says otherwise is a dirty appeaser who would see Labor Day swallowed next.

This Canadian humbly suggests you adopt Canadian Thanksgiving as an American holiday akin to Victoria/Memorial Day, to create an "autumnal buffer zone" against the forces of St. Nick, Kris Kringle, and Sinter Klaus.

ellspurs
Sep 12, 2007
Kappa :o
You're worried about Valentine's Day merch?

I have bought Mini Eggs today and have seen Easter Eggs on the shelves. In December.

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

ellspurs posted:

You're worried about Valentine's Day merch?

I have bought Mini Eggs today and have seen Easter Eggs on the shelves. In December.

:stare:

I gotta say, that might be a record for Easter candy.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Shinji2015 posted:

:stare:

I gotta say, that might be a record for Easter candy.

Yeah holidays (all of them) just keep starting earlier. It's aggravating.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
They're the only thing to look forward to in hellworld 2020.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Complications posted:

We will not stop fighting the War on Christmas until it is forced back across the Thanksgiving DMZ, and anyone who says otherwise is a dirty appeaser who would see Labor Day swallowed next.

You'll never make it over the Black Friday no man zone!

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Yeah holidays (all of them) just keep starting earlier. It's aggravating.
It is the year 2035. Christmas displays are available all year long. The space from January through September is a jumbled celebration of all events. Easter eggs for New Years, American Flag-colored Valentine's cakes.

Chaos reigns.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



FilthyImp posted:

It is the year 2035. Christmas displays are available all year long. The space from January through September is a jumbled celebration of all events. Easter eggs for New Years, American Flag-colored Valentine's cakes.

Chaos reigns.

I embrace our candy oriented future.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


By 2021 mall security is a bunch of Daleks shouting CONSUME while being appropriately decorated for the closest holiday

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

blatman posted:

By 2021 mall security is a bunch of Daleks shouting CONSUME while being appropriately decorated for the closest holiday



1986

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Somfin posted:

There's an early bit in Accelerando where a shopping mall is decked out in dead elves because the AI driving its marketing determined that combining war crimes and christmas would move product like hell

I thought that was stupid as gently caress when I read it and now I think it wasn't going far enough

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Yeah holidays (all of them) just keep starting earlier. It's aggravating.

I hate it because we get the consumerism of the two Christian holidays blasted at us but gently caress it, if it's going to be like that people collectively should go full feast day mindset with it like, what, you're expecting us to come to work any time within one week on either side of Easter Sunday? gently caress off, I got poo poo to buy/prepare/recover from. You'll see companies pushing holiday stuff go away real fast.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Neo Rasa posted:

I hate it because we get the consumerism of the two Christian holidays blasted at us but gently caress it, if it's going to be like that people collectively should go full feast day mindset with it like, what, you're expecting us to come to work any time within one week on either side of Easter Sunday? gently caress off, I got poo poo to buy/prepare/recover from. You'll see companies pushing holiday stuff go away real fast.

It's very much like this for higher-status workers, especially around Christmas. Party in mid-December, take all the time between the 24th and the 2nd off. It's the people who have already-poo poo jobs that don't get to indulge like that.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

PT6A posted:

It's very much like this for higher-status workers, especially around Christmas. Party in mid-December, take all the time between the 24th and the 2nd off. It's the people who have already-poo poo jobs that don't get to indulge like that.

I didn't get that time off, but I did get to work from home and since literally nothing was scheduled to happen or did, it was basically a staycation that required me to check my work laptop every now and then. While I'm gllad I get it, I remember still when I didn't and its bullshit that everyone can't.

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

Hell, I'm a federal worker and our office basically shuts down from Thanksgiving through this coming Monday. People on half days or day on/day off, it's been a ghost town.

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever
College professor, so this is basically a month's holiday for me, though I am doing some committee stuff and the like. I've had a ton of lovely retail jobs, though, and this time of year I plan out even my grocery shopping to avoid the BS as much as possible. The people doing that work have my infinite sympathy... they work 2 or 3 times as hard for the same lovely wages.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005
Yeah I work in higher Ed and I'm back today after being off from the 17th of last month.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


PT6A posted:

It's very much like this for higher-status workers, especially around Christmas. Party in mid-December, take all the time between the 24th and the 2nd off. It's the people who have already-poo poo jobs that don't get to indulge like that.

24th and 2nd? More like 20th though the 6th.

TyroneGoldstein posted:

Yeah I work in higher Ed and I'm back today after being off from the 17th of last month.

:):hf::)

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate
Pier 1 is done

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/pier-1-imports-to-close-nearly-half-of-its-north-american-stores-1.4755419

gaj70
Jan 26, 2013

PT6A posted:

It's very much like this for higher-status workers, especially around Christmas. Party in mid-December, take all the time between the 24th and the 2nd off. It's the people who have already-poo poo jobs that don't get to indulge like that.

OTOH, it circles around.... the next higher tier of workers are all trying to close deals, make numbers, etc. before the quarter closes. Christmas to New Year Eve ends up being the busiest week of the year.

unnoticed
Nov 29, 2005

That's odd...
I didn't know Pier1 even had this many stores...
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pier-1-reports-widening-losses-hundreds-of-planned-store-closures-2020-01-06?mod=home-page

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker
I was shocked a few years ago when on a smallish lot they built a standalone Trader Joe's and a standalone Pier1.

As expected, TJ's is always super busy and it seems like even wasting the footprint for the Pier1 building took away valuable TJ parking space.

Secondly, there's a non-dead, indoor mall across the street that seems like it would have been a more perfect fit for Pier1 than a standalone building.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
The perfect fit for Pier1 is in the bin, and that’s where it’s going.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Did pier 1 sell anything useful, or was it all boomer decorative crap?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Beachcomber posted:

Did pier 1 sell anything useful, or was it all boomer decorative crap?

I thought peir 1 was like a Ross' or Marshalls but for furniture?

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

It always seemed like overpriced flimsy junk to me, so I’m not sad to see it go.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

HootTheOwl posted:

I thought peir 1 was like a Ross' or Marshalls but for furniture?

Like an even more WASP Pottery Barn.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Beachcomber posted:

Did pier 1 sell anything useful, or was it all boomer decorative crap?

Those big round chairs that looked like upturned mushroom caps.

Unoriginal Name
Aug 1, 2006

by sebmojo
Pier 1 is where you go when you need a Live Laugh Love plaque for the dayroom.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:


Add another to the list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdGxR-aU6o

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

HootTheOwl posted:

I thought peir 1 was like a Ross' or Marshalls but for furniture?

Nah that's Homegoods.

Pier 1 is like Homegoods but expensive and filled with plain ol' awful stuff instead of entertainingly awful stuff.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Cheesus posted:

I was shocked a few years ago when on a smallish lot they built a standalone Trader Joe's and a standalone Pier1.

As expected, TJ's is always super busy and it seems like even wasting the footprint for the Pier1 building took away valuable TJ parking space.

Trader Joe's actively rejects large parking lots so it's stores can seem busy and vibrant without actually seeming too crowded inside. It is an idea that seems to be working well.

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I hope JCP did well.

They're my favorite!

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