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Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Docahedron posted:

And it was painting Lowtax in a negative "he's a Nazi" light

it was a picture of quotes

if your takeaway from the quotes is "these quotes make this person look bad" and you think that's the fault of the person who's pointing those quotes out then uh

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Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
it isnt worth ruining this community over

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

cumshitter posted:

your ban for snoo was a picture of your comments about dealing with trans posters
Yes and again, it was cherry picking. And all those comments were directed at a small group of trans posters, not the trans community. I'm talking about the ones in that thread that just utterly despise me. I made it clear I was not talking about all trans people, I was referring to one single group here.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Galactic Cat posted:

hey yall whats going on in here didnt read the thread yeat

Now don't go banning anyone around here, y'hear

FanofPortals
Sep 22, 2006

BILL FILLMAFF'S GREATEST DISAPPOINTMENT

Galactic Cat posted:

hey yall whats going on in here didnt read the thread yeat

Reading is over-rated. Also happy new years

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Tallgeese posted:

One of those (buying guns) is generally a legal activity.

Not to be pedantic I'm being pedantic , but I don't think thermite is a controlled substance. It's actually really pretty boring overall. Yeah, you can create a lot of heat and melt a hole in something with it, but it's not like a bomb or something.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
people make lovely mistakes and it takes a real person to own up to them, so dont bury this down and try and ignore it

people gently caress up, and can make amends

campfire
Feb 19, 2008

Snoo Zertnert

Lowtax posted:

Again, you're missing all the times I defended the trans community and said how much empathy I had for them. That doesn't fit your narrative. Sorry I said I liked a trans porn video, sorry I called a trans person ugly in 2003, but you're cherry picking things I said.

im not owned im not owned

what if we just rolled the clock back 24 hours and went on our collective merry way

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Lowtax posted:

Yes and again, it was cherry picking. And all those comments were directed at a small group of trans posters, not the trans community. I'm talking about the ones in that thread that just utterly despise me. I made it clear I was not talking about all trans people, I was referring to one single group here.

just let this poo poo go man, over turn the bans tomorrow or something, this isnt worth it for some stupid rule that is basically a symbol for you now than an actual rule

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
i have been scared of posting my opinion on all this for fear of being harassed by the movement that formed against fyad. i want to preface this by saying that i think most of the people angry at fyad are acting in good faith. i think that what started as a legitimate purge of transphobia got hijacked by a few narcissists to further their posting grudges.

i realized i was trans a few months back through reading the troon saloon thread. i eventually got invited to an offsite discord that really helped me early on. when the first thread about fyad was started i supported it because there was actual transphobes in fyad. i watched and helped people on the discord go through post histories and fyad looking for anything transphobic. fyad got closed and everyone who could reasonably be said to be transphobic got permabanned but that didnt satisfy some very vocal people.

i realized pretty quickly that it had stopped being about fighting transphobia and had become a way to get anyone this group disliked banned. the discord that had been a safe place originally became extremely toxic as the mods of it started witch hunts to find imaginary kiwi farms spies. theyd dig through kiwi farms and post screenshots of obvious troll posts saying "im actually <some poster>" and then act like this was proof. they started forming actual lists of people they wanted banned, sometimes for stuff as minor as mocking an avatar. ive seen online communities get destroyed like this before. i left the discord around the time that fyad was reopened when i realized that if i said anything id be labelled an enemy.

since then ive seen posters who i believe are well meaning say "ban the transphobes" or that fyad is harassing various threads. ive personally found the new fyad to be more welcoming and safer for me than tgrs or the cspam reconciliation thread. the "harassment" that i see people claim is either not by fyad posters or its fyad posters simply disagreeing and immediately being probed. in the last few pages people have posted evidence of harassment thats just someone saying "this is frivolous" in one of the qcs threads. ive yet to see any actual evidence of transphobia in new fyad beyond "they made fun of my avatar". i understand why some people would feel differently but i dont think we should prohibit all mockery of other posters, just bigotry.

im sorry but i cant help but laugh at the idea that people are in tears because they got banned. if this site forms such an essential part of your social and support network than that is extremely unhealthy and you need help that this site cant and shouldnt provide.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
the mod sass rule has barely been enforced in the last 10 years.

Docahedron
May 11, 2008

Im a special snowflake

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

it was a picture of quotes

if your takeaway from the quotes is "these quotes make this person look bad" and you think that's the fault of the person who's pointing those quotes out then uh

Some days "pictures of quotes" are doxng

But all days pictures of Lowtax's quotes aren't I guess?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Hot Karl Marx posted:

people make lovely mistakes and it takes a real person to own up to them, so dont bury this down and try and ignore it

people gently caress up, and can make amends

ultimately it’s this lowtax, doubling down is natural but if you say you hosed up and move on to tackling the problems this can go away

Galactic Cat
Jun 21, 2018
oh i thoutgh this is where the trans porn is at because i saw lowtax posting here was that wrong

lowtax is your dick out rn

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

Lowtax posted:

Yes and again, it was cherry picking. And all those comments were directed at a small group of trans posters, not the trans community. I'm talking about the ones in that thread that just utterly despise me. I made it clear I was not talking about all trans people, I was referring to one single group here.

would it be helpful if i pointed out the non regulars in this thread that are only here to threadshit?

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy

Neopie posted:

Lowtax, going 'no I like trans porn' as a rationale for how you're chill with transpeople is transphobic literally now. You did this today.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Lowtax posted:

Yes and again, it was cherry picking. And all those comments were directed at a small group of trans posters, not the trans community. I'm talking about the ones in that thread that just utterly despise me. I made it clear I was not talking about all trans people, I was referring to one single group here.

This is not the defense you seem to think it is

If mod sass is just "posting things a mod has said that same day" then it means literally nothing

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
now is literally the time you can make these amends

this can empower our community if you act now

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lowtax posted:

Yes and again, it was cherry picking. And all those comments were directed at a small group of trans posters, not the trans community. I'm talking about the ones in that thread that just utterly despise me. I made it clear I was not talking about all trans people, I was referring to one single group here.

You mean the group that was mad that you kept showing your entire rear end and missing the point of their complaints? The group that answered your four point post but that you never bothered to go back and read said answers to? They are mad at you for very good, very specific reasons, and painting it as just a bunch of hysterical queers who are mad for no reason is just as bad a look as saying you're an ally because you find a trans attactive and you've watched trans porn.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost

Lowtax posted:

The posts I banned people for were mod sass. I didn't see anything about the trans community, and I apologize if there was something there and I missed it. I just saw a lot of people freely making GBS threads on me, and if I'm going to try to unravel and deal with this mess, I'm going to enforce the rules.

Hey, you have a lot of poo poo going on right now and it’s understandable that you haven’t been keeping up with forums issues right now given your RL situation, but you might want to hold off on full ban hammer action until you have had a chance to sit down and look over everything.

I understand that this is piling into a giant ball of stress and confusion for you, and having a bunch of people upset isn’t helping, but you really should pause for a moment. From the tone of your replies in this thread it seems like you feel like you need to focus more on justify/defend your actions, which isn’t really a good attitude to go into this with.

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

it was a picture of quotes

if your takeaway from the quotes is "these quotes make this person look bad" and you think that's the fault of the person who's pointing those quotes out then uh
The whole purpose of the image was to make me look like I was insulting the entire trans community, when I was trying to make it clear I was speaking about one small group of people.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


turn off the TV posted:

tall geese were you the one who kept on posting about radical c spam terrorist attacks i really want to know who it was and that was bizarre enough to sound like you imo

Don't know about that but he's definitely been low-key making GBS threads on trans people and undermining their feelings since the beginning of this situation https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3906400&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post500687262

quote:

I am certain they will survive without being able to post on our august forums for six hours.

Not shocked that poster's defense of it all has now moved to "it's only $10"

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

Tallgeese posted:

One of those (buying guns) is generally a legal activity.


Whitenoise Poster posted:

lmao i just thought about the couple thousand people who have no idea any of this is going on and just posting about drugs or cars or whatever we have in these 15 other subforums I don't look at

Like it'd be pretty funny to be one of those people in the unlikely event that sa actually died for real.


FanofPortals posted:

Reading is over-rated. Also happy new years


Zarin posted:

Not to be pedantic I'm being pedantic , but I don't think thermite is a controlled substance. It's actually really pretty boring overall. Yeah, you can create a lot of heat and melt a hole in something with it, but it's not like a bomb or something.

Galactic Cat posted:

oh i thoutgh this is where the trans porn is at because i saw lowtax posting here was that wrong

lowtax is your dick out rn


Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

i have been scared of posting my opinion on all this for fear of being harassed by the movement that formed against fyad. i want to preface this by saying that i think most of the people angry at fyad are acting in good faith. i think that what started as a legitimate purge of transphobia got hijacked by a few narcissists to further their posting grudges.

i realized i was trans a few months back through reading the troon saloon thread. i eventually got invited to an offsite discord that really helped me early on. when the first thread about fyad was started i supported it because there was actual transphobes in fyad. i watched and helped people on the discord go through post histories and fyad looking for anything transphobic. fyad got closed and everyone who could reasonably be said to be transphobic got permabanned but that didnt satisfy some very vocal people.

i realized pretty quickly that it had stopped being about fighting transphobia and had become a way to get anyone this group disliked banned. the discord that had been a safe place originally became extremely toxic as the mods of it started witch hunts to find imaginary kiwi farms spies. theyd dig through kiwi farms and post screenshots of obvious troll posts saying "im actually <some poster>" and then act like this was proof. they started forming actual lists of people they wanted banned, sometimes for stuff as minor as mocking an avatar. ive seen online communities get destroyed like this before. i left the discord around the time that fyad was reopened when i realized that if i said anything id be labelled an enemy.

since then ive seen posters who i believe are well meaning say "ban the transphobes" or that fyad is harassing various threads. ive personally found the new fyad to be more welcoming and safer for me than tgrs or the cspam reconciliation thread. the "harassment" that i see people claim is either not by fyad posters or its fyad posters simply disagreeing and immediately being probed. in the last few pages people have posted evidence of harassment thats just someone saying "this is frivolous" in one of the qcs threads. ive yet to see any actual evidence of transphobia in new fyad beyond "they made fun of my avatar". i understand why some people would feel differently but i dont think we should prohibit all mockery of other posters, just bigotry.

im sorry but i cant help but laugh at the idea that people are in tears because they got banned. if this site forms such an essential part of your social and support network than that is extremely unhealthy and you need help that this site cant and shouldnt provide.

all of these folks i dont recognize as posting here

pizza combos
Feb 23, 2011

Whitenoise Poster posted:

lmao i just thought about the couple thousand people who have no idea any of this is going on and just posting about drugs or cars or whatever we have in these 15 other subforums I don't look at

Like it'd be pretty funny to be one of those people in the unlikely event that sa actually died for real.

This is me. Went down a rabbit hole in PYF and ended up here. Bizarre.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Lowtax posted:

The whole purpose of the image was to make me look like I was insulting the entire trans community, when I was trying to make it clear I was speaking about one small group of people.

dude just say tonight is a lovely night and let this stuff slide. reinstate account and start fresh. if lovely accounts keep acting lovely then go nuts

Galactic Cat
Jun 21, 2018
i rarely post and lost my old account oops but i need to know if lowtax is in control of his dick rn or not

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

im sorry but i cant help but laugh at the idea that people are in tears because they got banned. if this site forms such an essential part of your social and support network than that is extremely unhealthy and you need help that this site cant and shouldnt provide.


Plinkey posted:

Also lowtax banned a goon that asked for like 40 bucks to get through the month today because they were coming up a bit short, what the gently caress dude, kick em when they are down, cool.


you're a loving rear end in a top hat

it's not just posts and lulz, it's access to a safe place where people feel comfortable being vulnerable, admitting they need help and in a lot of cases finding it.

edit: if you want me to go more SCIENTIFIC SOCIALIST HISTOMAT analysis, I can tell you why places like this are INCREDIBLY loving IMPORTANT as our society crumbles before our eyes, but that'd probably be sincere loser poo poo to your ears, so why waste my loving breath

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

Tallgeese posted:

One of those (buying guns) is generally a legal activity.

:rolleyes:

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Zyla posted:

all of these folks i dont recognize as posting here

Most of them are, shocker, FYAD-exclusives

Galactic Cat
Jun 21, 2018
anyhw lol thinking that he is going to listen or change his mind

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

Lowtax posted:

The whole purpose of the image was to make me look like I was insulting the entire trans community, when I was trying to make it clear I was speaking about one small group of people.

just a small thing but please dont say transsexual any more, its an outdated term, trans people or trans folk are the more respectful ways to refer to them. transsexual is pretty much considered a slur by most trans people these days, so hearing it a lot on your stream was also contributing to the anger

FanofPortals
Sep 22, 2006

BILL FILLMAFF'S GREATEST DISAPPOINTMENT
lowtax can you embed this chill and relaxing music in this thread only? I know the forum still runs off Kenneth Stumpf TITAN code but still:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQWWOZPTyOw

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



you've got a lot going on, and even people like me who have nothing going on aren't up to date on everything going on, it's fine, just repeal those bans

when a mod makes a thread specifically requesting people let it all out in regards to something to clear the air so a solution can be found, retaliating based on that is a super bad thing

I believe you when you say you're sympathetic to the situation of the trans community generally and trans posters on these forums specifically, but there's more context to this whole thing than mod sass

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Zyla posted:

all of these folks i dont recognize as posting here

I've seen captain billy pissbob around for a while

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

eric ciaramella posted:

the mod sass rule has barely been enforced in the last 10 years.

Lol not when dealing with low tax directly

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Lowtax posted:

Yes and again, it was cherry picking. And all those comments were directed at a small group of trans posters, not the trans community. I'm talking about the ones in that thread that just utterly despise me. I made it clear I was not talking about all trans people, I was referring to one single group here.

Yes, the trans thread in TGRS had a very negative reaction to you, but this was because the trans thread is the place where they post about things that matter and are important to them. It was designed to be a safe space where they could shelter a bit and you kind of blundered in there and made them all feel really uncomfortable. I know you didn't intend to, but that was what happened. Chalk it up to a misunderstanding, but it was a misunderstanding that you caused by choosing a very poor venue to talk to them in.

sweet geek swag has issued a correction as of 07:51 on Jan 1, 2020

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
just take a step back, reinstate the accounts and see how poo poo ends up

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
there is absolutely nothing wrong with claiming ignorance

JuulPodSaveAmerica
Aug 29, 2012

Lowtax posted:

The whole purpose of the image was to make me look like I was insulting the entire trans community, when I was trying to make it clear I was speaking about one small group of people.

:qqsay:
somebody put all of the things i was saying into a meme photo

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Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
billy pissboy is old cspam, i recognize the transitor av from ages ago iirc

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