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Heath posted:I think people really forget how much heavier traffic was in the forum's peaks. There was a time where something like adhering to grammar and punctuation restrictions was an attractive enough feature to make people pay ten dollars for the luxury of having it enforced. That probably seems bizarre to anyone under perhaps 23, but pre-social media internet was often very difficult to read - autocorrect was not a thing, and the internet skewed much younger than it does now. Nowadays typing like an idiot is an affectation, shitposting. Another thing I believe SA is primarily responsible for originating, and Twitter is for disseminating it. I think you would like the book Because Internet.
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This calendar stuff can be confusing but it can be figured out. As a thought experiment, imagine 4 balls on the edge of the international date line and
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Jan 2, 2020 07:22
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Methanar posted:I had a religion teacher at school that had a rant about how this was just another way that people were trying to erase christ's influence. It was calculated incorrectly anyway. King Herod's mentioned prominently in the birth of Jesus narrative with Joseph returning to Judea from Egypt because an angel tells him of King Herod's death which occured in... 4 BC. And Jesus stayed in Egypt for 2 years making him born in 6 BC. So six years before christ, christ was born.
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Jan 2, 2020 07:27
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:eh Posts like this are why the capitalization/punctuation rules were born way back when: there's good info here, but what the gently caress.
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Jan 2, 2020 07:31
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I posted a big effort-post thread on calendar reform in C-SPAM a ways back and it got like 8 replies so all you johnny-come-latelys get no sympathy from me. 
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Jan 2, 2020 07:47
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I see internet people from time to time talk about how they used to be goons and they always seemed to be slightly ashamed of it and I could never understand why. It turns out it's because they can from FYAD.
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Jan 2, 2020 07:55
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:It was calculated incorrectly anyway. King Herod's mentioned prominently in the birth of Jesus narrative with Joseph returning to Judea from Egypt because an angel tells him of King Herod's death which occured in... 4 BC. And Jesus stayed in Egypt for 2 years making him born in 6 BC. So six years before christ, christ was born.
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Jan 2, 2020 08:07
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Does anyone remember a time when Lowtax announced that the forums were undergoing like a database revert or something, and anything you posted on one night in particular would not get saved, so everyone was free to post whatever they wanted? I have no idea what year this occured, must have been before 2011 I think. I remember the forums going insane, threads would grow by 6 pages at a time and everyone was just posting nonsense and porn in GBS and stuff. The forums stopped working correctly.
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Jan 2, 2020 08:12
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Ghostlight posted:It's only calculated wrong if you use the Bible accounts of the nativity as an authoritative source to estimate the date. The bible accounts of the nativity are the only accounts of Jesus' birth which exist. The nativity account IS extremely wonky historically speaking. Joseph and Mary have to go to Bethlehem for the census administered by Quirinius which occurred in 6AD (because its where their ancestors lived even though that was never a thing which Romans did with their censuses) then Herod who died in 4BC, 10 years earlier, hears about Jesus and orders a mass execution which is not attested to in any non-biblical record. But considering it was explicitly created by a monk he probably did consider the bibles account of christ to be an authoritative source on which years did and did not contain christ
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Jan 2, 2020 08:26
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The Scientist posted:Does anyone remember a time when Lowtax announced that the forums were undergoing like a database revert or something, and anything you posted on one night in particular would not get saved, so everyone was free to post whatever they wanted? I have no idea what year this occured, must have been before 2011 I think. i thought that was a fever dream
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Jan 2, 2020 08:33
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Solice Kirsk posted:It just doesn't feel like 1723 though. I'd say it feels kind of like 1815ish. But now it's more like "Maybe y2k didn't happen in my lifetime and it's 1725. Eh, crazy stuff".
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Jan 2, 2020 08:45
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The Scientist posted:Does anyone remember a time when Lowtax announced that the forums were undergoing like a database revert or something, and anything you posted on one night in particular would not get saved, so everyone was free to post whatever they wanted? I have no idea what year this occured, must have been before 2011 I think. I remember the yellow forums. Ask tell had "Ask me about closing a thread." (greyed out after 0 replies). GWS had a thread "how doing maek eggs," probably with several pages.
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Jan 2, 2020 09:20
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The really funny thing would be if after all that the database didn't revert
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Jan 2, 2020 09:27
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:I posted a big effort-post thread on calendar reform in C-SPAM a ways back and it got like 8 replies so all you johnny-come-latelys get no sympathy from me. heres a summary of christian calendar reform they keep trying to get Easter right
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Jan 2, 2020 09:28
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The really funny thing would be if after all that the database didn't revert Kinda like the morning after doomsday.
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Jan 2, 2020 09:35
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:heres a summary of christian calendar reform The simplest form of calendar reform is just making it so that New Years and Leap Day are considered its own thing and aren't on any day of the week. That puts 363 days which is evenly divisble by 7 so every date would always fall on the same day of the week each year. You could reuse your calendars and have thanksgiving, election day, labor day etc. always be on the same date each year.
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Jan 2, 2020 09:41
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Ah but Big Calendar would throw its weight around and have anyone pushing the idea locked up.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:That puts 363 days which is evenly divisble by 7 
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Jan 2, 2020 10:56
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it's just simple math
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Jan 2, 2020 11:11
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Ariong posted:Reminds me of how during the early days of Pokemon Sun and Moon you couldn’t trade away a Cofagrigus without renaming it to something else, because f*g was in the no-no list and they forgot to make an exception. The GameFAQs forums has a word ban list with a short list of exceptions. “oval office” is banned, but “Scunthorpe” is whitelisted. Now here comes code that would make Radium proud: if the censor function encountered a whitelisted word, it would simply halt. It didn’t look at any of the rest of the words in the post. A clever person could use this to their advantage. If they wanted to talk about the hamlet of Shitterton in Dorset, they could first mention the town of Scunthorpe to get the filter to gently caress off, then talk freely about Shitterton.
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Jan 2, 2020 11:50
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Year should be divided into 100 days, just stop caring about how sun spins, lmao, who cares.
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Jan 2, 2020 12:01
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The sun can gently caress off
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Jan 2, 2020 12:10
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Captain Hygiene posted:I have tried reading FYAD quite a few times and have always come away with a headache and a weird feeling of confusion people have been asking "what is fyad" for as long as ive been on this site and people have also been saying "fyad sucks" for that long too. its a little more easy to understand now than it used to be since irony shitposting is the new normal but for quite a while it was pretty much the only place on the site where you could just post whatever the gently caress and others judgments would be only be based on whatever capricious standard of "being funny" they held. it was also, tho, very insular and judgmental of new posters who didn't fit the forums culture; originality was highly valued, and it turns out its insanely hard to be funny to a clique of strangers in an original fashion. most posters who tried to step into the forum just repeated trite observations every new poster made or repeated forum jokes that had been done to death and were probated or, if they persisted, banned. dril is the most positive example of the absurdist, freewheeling style it fostered since its clear like, he's playing a character, or more like maintaining a particular voice, but its also very easy to take him entirely seriously and be utterly confused what everyone finds so comedic about flag loving. when he calls the keebler elves the (((keebler elves))) its not sincere but its also very intentionally loaded and the humor comes from both the absurd juxtaposition of antisemtic tropes and cookie elf mascots and how its still just lucid enough for one to suspend disbelief and read it as a straightforward statement by a total loon. tho you also had posters who subverted that by being just incessantly straightforward and polite at all times like koos. a lot of the posters there have described it as chill despite the often overt hostility and disdain for, for lack of a better word, "breaking character". people mistake that for insincerity or irony, but I think it makes more sense when you realize what people were doing wasn't plainly sincere or coyly insincere, just kind of almost asincere. you didn't worry about "sincerity", you just wrote something that made a sort of deeper sense than trying to be deliberate could convey. you got a sort of catharsis by just being able to contextualize things in an absurd fashion to highlight the inherit madness of what you felt you were dealing with; a lot of the most famous jokes from the forum were incredibly sincere takes but written with a very irreverent style, permitting them to put forth their own narrative by essentially taking what they felt were the core elements of what they were going after and making a joke by highlighting the innate comedy of the matter. a lot of times its used to deflate a sense of seriousness, but yet again, its not unserious, just aserious, just refusing to let one self be swayed or overly affected by such a concept. they sure as hell took things seriously but not themselves seriously, which meant it was hard to cope with them when they popped up in a random thread to start mocking people (tho thats also because nobody on earth thinks straight when they feel like theyre on the defensive or their social position is threatened). as said, I think the appeal there is the sense of catharsis out of being, essentially, an idiot among fellow idiots, and that the freedom to be as outrageously shocking or weird in your conduct in the name of comedy meant people couldn't rely on social ranking or standards of conduct to demand behavior from you, sort of the thing about why people in masks or clowns end up having a sense of fantastical control in social conduct. and i mean, thats kind of my thesis here that, like, its really not a new thing, its literally just "the boring old rear end art of clowning except online". they're the one setting all the rules of behavior by making your rules a punchline and any attempt you make in fighting back or contextualizing it is just pissing into the wind. the counter, it turns out, isn't to try to make fun of the clown for having a big red nose or dumb rear end pants, but challenge the entire context by pointing out that its not a clown, its just some dickhead in a frumpy costume who is being an rear end in a top hat and refuse to respect the clown ritual. the comedic nature masks the often inherent cruelty to the routines, after all. fyad had a real strong air of mystique which assisted in that social power, until they suddenly didnt and now they're just some sad dorks in a pink forum who are resigned to going from a bozo jester routine to a sad pierrot one. the above is possibly all bullshit but i think thats why people have had a really hard time trying to understand what the gently caress fyads deal is while they never bothered to give a poo poo themselves; they just "knew" and you either got the inherent real-meeting-unreal parody quality to it or you were fail gbs. that, and they were also huge assholes about everything when they were on a warpath against someone or something they felt was bad (because you dont have to be nice when youre right), especially tiring to deal with from a staff perspective (because gently caress forum cops), and their weirdness and sudden appearances to raise hell in random threads lead to them having an aura of power and dread which i feel fuels a lot of the contradictory theories on their true intent and also is why they attract a lot of stupid followers. every time theyd start a big forums drama people would spill into the weird pink circus of hell forums and have to struggle to understand what the gently caress was going on and often the only way to deal with it was to just come up with a quick judgement that made sense to you and be off. my own take here is just one explanation, that makes sense to me, but i am someone who kind of has a problem hating anybody too much and prefers giving people more charitable interpretations they deserve, so, you know, grain of salt and all that. the poo poo theyre getting is definitely a chickens coming home to roost style thing thats been a long time coming. 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anyways thats my sincere overwrought post for the month, i just want to also second the notion that the sun can gently caress off
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The Sun is good. It is the Moon that needs to gently caress off. Stop stealing our momentum! Get your own momentum, you dusty piece of poo poo.
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Jan 2, 2020 12:27
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loving a flag is no laughing matter.
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Jan 2, 2020 12:27
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Paladinus posted:loving a flag is no laughing matter. Yeah. They won't even let me gently caress it.
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Jan 2, 2020 12:46
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Star spanked boner.
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Finally caught up with this thread, but I noticed something while reading through it that I don't think I've seen covered much more than this:Tweak posted:This might be the reason for the login related issues some were seeing: Seems like this thread is perfect for collecting the ways that Radium has trapped the code?
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The Scientist posted:Does anyone remember a time when Lowtax announced that the forums were undergoing like a database revert or something, and anything you posted on one night in particular would not get saved, so everyone was free to post whatever they wanted? I have no idea what year this occured, must have been before 2011 I think. Maybe it happened another time as well, but the time I remember happened a few months after Katrina hit New Orleans. At the time the forums were physically being hosted in New Orleans by a hosting company that was giving Lowtax a big discount. After the hurricane they had to discontinue the discount and Lowtax couldn't afford their normal rates, even back then, so he had to move the servers to a different hosting provider. Any posts made during the move wouldn't be saved (presumably because the primary database server was moved first, and leaving only the secondary database server online; when the secondary re-synced with the primary after they were together again the primary would overwrite the secondary erasing any new posts). Also, man, Katrina was just absolutely insane to watch second hand via these forums. Does anyone have a link to the blog run by the guys staying in the server room of web hosting company in New Orleans that Lowtax was using at the time? Mr.Radar has a new favorite as of 13:42 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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D. Ebdrup posted:Finally caught up with this thread, but I noticed something while reading through it that I don't think I've seen covered much more than this: I think the delete post button is more a VB thing that due to the archives does very bad things to the DB, remember ZDR deleted many of his posts when he had his falling out with lowtax and almost every thread he posted in had to be remade because the threads started having phantom pages pop up and posts were being lost. VB probably at the time wasn't made to have an archival function and it was built up without any idea what it may entail if you delete posts.
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D. Ebdrup posted:And in the last few pages, someone pointed out the Delete Post admin button that blows poo poo up, but is there a list? The reports system is weird: angerbeet posted:I think I was a GBS mod when the system changed - it used to be that everyone could report, but mods were getting overrun with reports - GBS got about 3 pages of reports a day at the time, which is a lot of work, even spread among the five or so mods, as there were NA/Euro splits, people on vacation etc. GBS had more posters and way more rules at the time (things like poor grammar/image leeching which no one cares about now) so I don't know if it's still required to stem report volume. I don’t know if this is even Radium’s fault, but he didn’t fix it so I’m blaming him: nested subforums don’t show up in the forums index. The Game Room is hidden in Traditional Games, project.log is hidden in the Cavern of COBOL, and there’s a WoW subforum under the Blizzard subforum (which is itself hiding under the name “Free Hong Kong”).
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Is the "delete post button" a real literal button? My impression was zdr deleted his posts directly from the database with an sql query, which is why it caused a bunch of inconsistencies.
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It’s a literal button.FactsAreUseless posted:They're insane. Sometimes people get it wrong, like saying that we can't delete or move or rename forums, which happens all the time. But there are some real weird things that can't be changed. For instance: admins have a Delete Post button. They very explicitly can't use it, because it breaks threads. Why is it there? Because somehow it's built into the core functionality so deep that touching it would cause some sort of major issue. I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but I remember ZDR saying he once broke the forums entirely by changing a smilie tag or some other really minor poo poo.
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Paladinus posted:Year should be divided into 100 days, just stop caring about how sun spins, lmao, who cares. I, too, think we should bring back the French Republican calendar
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CaptainSarcastic posted:The decade isn't over yet. It started with January 1st of 2011, and will end December 31st of 2020. Decade Truther filth!
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razorrozar posted:you're right but it makes absolutely no sense to say, for instance, 2000 is part of the 90s The 90s unironically lasted until September 10, 2001.
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Big Mad Drongo posted:The 90s unironically lasted until September 10, 2001. September of 1993 never ended.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:people have been asking "what is fyad" for as long as ive been on this site... I don't want to dismiss your whole post, but for a second I thought you were gearing up for some sort FYAD John Galt speech and I dunno if I coulda handled that this early in the morning
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