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ruddiger: Jun 3, 2004

skasion posted:

WB blamed the failure of Batman v Superman on him

800 million dollar box office failure BvS

:thunk:

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jan 2, 2020

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:10

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Chomp8645 posted:

I don't get it then. What does JJ cut even refer to? Snyder cut I understand even if it's stupid, because he didn't finish the movie. But JJ did release Rise of Skywalker. What does JJ cut mean in this context? The released version is the JJ cut.

Is it just an ironic hashtag or am I missing something?

I don't even know. I think people are just repurposing the meme because the movie was bad and they don't want to face reality and accept that.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:13

Trainee PornStar: Jul 20, 2006; I'm just an inbetweener

Chomp8645 posted:

I don't know what the Snyder cut nor JJ cut refer to. Explain.

I didn't either till the comments.
From what I gather it's like the movie equivalent of the game Polybius.

Totally not an insane nerd thing...

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:13

Bogus Adventure: Jan 11, 2017; More like "Bulges Adventure"

Chomp8645 posted:

I don't get it then. What does JJ cut even refer to? Snyder cut I understand even if it's stupid, because he didn't finish the movie. But JJ did release Rise of Skywalker. What does JJ cut mean in this context? The released version is the JJ cut.

Is it just an ironic hashtag or am I missing something?

Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following:

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

Reddit Dickhead posted:

Since shortly after release weekend, I�ve been corresponding with someone who worked closely on the production of TROS and works for one of the major companies I cannot disclose here. I have verified the source to my satisfaction. To protect the source, I am rewording what we spoke about over the last two weeks and am submitting it to you in bullet point format I have written based on what they told me. The TLDR is that they were upset with the final product of TROS and wanted to share their perspective on how it went down and where it went wrong.

*The leakers for TROS had an agenda and are tied to Disney directly. My source confessed that they have an agenda as well in that they struggle with ignoring what�s been happening to someone who they think doesn�t deserve it.

*JJ always treated everyone on and offset with respect so my source�s agenda is that what Disney has done to JJ and how much they screwed him over should be something people are at least aware of, whether you like him as a filmmaker or not.

*Disney was one of the studios who were in that Bad Robot bidding war last year. Disney never had much interest in BR as a company but they did in JJ because they saw WB (who JJ went with in the end) as a major threat.

*JJ is very successful at bringing franchises back like Mission Impossible, Star Trek and Star Wars. WB is struggling with DC and aside from Wonder Woman, DC is still seen as a bit of a joke in its current state by the GA.

*WB wants Abrams for some DC projects. My source said that this generation�s Star Wars is the MCU, and Marvel�s biggest threat is a well operational DC. They want to keep DC in the limbo that they�re in right now. Abrams jumpstarting that franchise with something like a successful, audience-pleasing Superman movie makes them nervous. Their goal is to make JJ look bad to potential investors/shareholders.

*My source mentioned this shortly after the premiere: �The TROS we saw last night was not the TROS we thought we worked on�.

*JJ was devastated and blindsided by this. He�s been feeling down over the last 6 months because of some of the ridiculous demands Disney had that changed his movie�s story. While the scenes were shot, a lot of the changes were made in post-production and the audio was rerecorded and altered. My source said they�ve never seen anything like this happen before. He�s the director and he wasn�t in the know about what they were doing behind his back.

*Apparently, JJ felt threatened over the month leading up to the premiere.

*Rian was never meant to do IX despite some rumors that he was.

*JJ was brought back by Iger, not KK. Disney insisted on more fan service, less controversy.

*JJs original agreement when he signed on was indicating he would have way more creative control than he did on TFA. It became evident this wasn�t the case only a couple of weeks into shooting when the trouble with meddling started.

*JJ wanted to do some scenes he thought were important but Disney shut it down citing budgetary reasons.

*May 2019: JJ argued that those scenes were crucial. He had to let go of one of the scenes. The other scene he insisted on was approved at first. He did reshoots and additional photography in July. The new scene was shot at BR in October.

*The �ending that will blow your mind� was a part of this. Older actors were included like Hayden, Ewan and Samuel and anyone who wasn�t animated. The force ghosts weren�t meant to be voices because they shot that footage on camera. The actors were in costumes. Rey was supposed to be surrounded by the force ghosts to serve as sort of a barrier between her and the Sith surrounding them.

*My source thinks but can�t 100% confirm that this is because of China. It�s an office talk of sorts. Some VFX people claimed they got a list of approved shades of blue they could use on the Luke force ghosts. Cutting this out was when the bad blood turned into a nightmare for JJ because the movie he was making was suddenly unrecognizable to him in almost every way.

*My source knows JJ well enough to know that he�s just not the yelling type but apparently in a meeting he yelled something along the lines of �Why don�t you just put �directed and written by Lucasfilm� then?� My source wasn�t present for that exchange but knows some who were.

*Disney demanded they shoot some scenes that would have things in it for merchandise. �They fly now� is one of them. It�s also JJ�s least favorite scene. At a November screening of a 2:37 cut, he cringed, groaned and laughed when the scene was on.

*My source says that JJ was most likely not joking when he said �you�re right� in the interview where they asked him about TROS criticism.

*JJ�s original early November cut was 3 hours 2 minutes long.

*In January, JJ suggested that they turn this into two films. My source told me this well before Terrio mentioned it in an interview a couple of days ago. When Disney said no, JJ was content with making this 3 hours long.

*Over a period of 9 months JJ started realizing that one by one his ideas and whole scenes were being thrown out the window or entirely altered by people who have �no business meddling with the creatives�.

*They were not on the same page when it came to creative decisions and it became obvious that Disney had an agenda in addition to wanting to please shareholders. Disney could �afford messing up IX for the sake of the bigger picture� when it came to protecting things unrelated to IX.

*The cut JJ eventually and hesitantly agreed to in early December was 2:37 minutes long. It wasn�t the cut we saw which he wouldn�t have approved of (and which is 2:22 long). Apart from the force ghosts, there were other crucial and emotional scenes missing. The cut they released looked �chopped and taped back together with weak scotch tape� (JJ's words).

*The movie opened with Rey�s training. Her first scene with Rose was shortly after Rey damaged BB-8 during the training. Rose made a silly joke about how Poe is going to kill her for damaging BB-8. There was a moment where Rey took a minute to process what just happened when she saw that vision during training. She looked distressed and worried. The next scene was noise as the Falcon was landing and Rey runs over there. Those two women who kissed at the end were visible in this shot and they were holding hands. One of them ran towards the Falcon as it landed.

*Kylo on Mustafar scene was 2 mins longer. There was a moment where Kylo seemed a bit dizzy and his vision was shown as blurry for a second. Almost as if time half-stopped while everyone in the background was slow-mo fighting. Kylo hears Vader's breathing, then shakes his head and time goes back to moving at a normal pace and he jumps right back into the battle (the scene from the trailer where he knocks that guy down which did end up in the movie later).

*They cut some of the scenes from the lightspeed skipping segment. Some of the planets that were cut were Kashyyyk, Naboo, and Kamino.

*The scene where the tie fighters are chasing them through the iceberg - those corridors were inspired by a video game JJ used to play in the 90s called Rebel Assault 2 (the third level in the game with the tunnels on Endor specifically).

*Jannah was confirmed to be Lando�s daughter.

*Rey not only healed Kylo's face scar but she killed Kylo when she healed Ben. Kylo ceased to exist when Rey healed him. My source mentioned that some people assume it was Han Solo who healed him but that isn�t true and that wasn't Han Solo. That was Leia using her own memories as well as Ben's to create a physical manifestation of his own thoughts to nudge him towards what he needed to do. That was her own way of communicating that with him. And it wasn't possible without her dying in the process. She made the ultimate sacrifice for her son and this flew over people's heads with the Disney cut.

*The late November cut (the last cut JJ approved of) had scenes with Rose and Rey still. JJ wanted to give her a more meaningful arc. Disney felt that that was too risky too. My source mentioned that Chris Terrio said that it was because of the Leia scenes but this is only partially true because she had four other scenes including two with Rey/Daisy that Leia was not in.

*Finn wanting to tell Rey something was always meant to be force sensitivity. In the 3 hour cut, it�s explicitly stated. There was a moment when Jannah and he were running on top of that star destroyer and Finn needed to unlock or move something and he force-moved it and acted surprised when it happened. This was replaced with a CGI�d BB-8 fixing whatever he needed to fix on there.

*Babu Frik was nearly cut because some execs at Disney thought he would be the new Jar Jar. They are really surprised that people love him this much. He was JJ's idea and was created in collaboration with some artists and puppeteers. The personality was all JJ.

*There were a bunch of scenes where Rey and Kylo (separately) went through quiet moments of reflection to deal with what they were going through. On her part, her going through the realization that there's something sinister about her past. Him going through regret and remorse but trying to shut it out. My source said that the Kylo scenes were especially amazing because of Adam's performance and how he managed to portray that inner turmoil. It provided much more context and added deeper meaning to both his battle with Rey and the final redemption arc at the end. It didn't happen so suddenly and it was more structured than what we got.

*The Kylo/Rey scene where he dies was at least 4 minutes longer with more dialogue. Ben was always supposed to die. Source also added that if he wasn�t, then that might�ve been in an earlier draft which they haven�t read. The first draft they read included Lando (the first few didn�t). The Reylo kiss and Ben�s death was not part of the reshoots. It was a part of the re-editing. Even the cut that JJ thought was coming out earlier this month had a longer version of that scene than what was shown in the theatrical cut.

*JJ was against the Reylo kiss (or Reylo in general). This was Disney's attempt to please both sides of the fandom.

*JJ was not happy with where TLJ took the story. The final result is a mix of that story and the story told by Disney and whoever they tried to impress (�certainly not the fans�). JJ is gutted over the final result. Star Wars means a lot to him. He had to sacrifice large chunks of the story in TFA but he was promised more creative control on TROS and instead the leash they had him on was only tightened as time went by. A source said that this is the one franchise and the one piece of his work that he didn't want to mess up and instead it turned into his worst nightmare. When he found out that he was blindsided with the cut they presented, he said "what the gently caress??" when Kylo was fighting the Knights of Ren at the end and the Williams music that was used for it was not what he wanted at all. He seemed to think it was out of place.

*JJ's cut still exists and �will always exist�. We most likely will never see it unless �someone accidentally leaks it.�

*Ok, so there you have it. If there are questions, I will try to follow up with my source but it�s up to them if they want to share more so I cannot guarantee an answer.

Edit: I forgot one thing that the source wanted included, concerning FinnPoe in TROS:

*The source asked about FinnPoe after seeing Oscar Isaac's comment about how Disney didn't want it to be a thing. This is true. JJ fought to make this happen. This is why Oscar is blaming Disney. It's not just a random throwaway comment. He knows for a fact that it was Disney because these discussions happened. The main cast is insanely close with JJ and are just as pissed, though seemingly more outspoken about it than JJ. During TFA, Disney was hesitant to hire John Boyega because a woman was front and center so they deemed that risky enough so bringing in a male lead who's black made them nervous. JJ fought to make that happen for about nine months before getting approval. The same issue came up when JJ fought to have Finn&Poe in TROS but he lost that battle as he lost many creative battles for this film. Many people, JJ included, came to the realization during this production that the story really is told by shareholders/investors instead of the creatives or anyone at Disney specifically. He tried to make a lot of things happen and was shut down because of this. They had him on a leash and many blame TLJ for the stricter creative approach.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:16

Irradiation: Sep 14, 2005; I understand your frustration.

ruddiger posted:

Such as?

E: just so it�s clear, I wasn�t the one who started the whole subjectivity/objectivity conversation, and all I did was provide objective proof of miniature work in a movie people vaguely attributed to cgi. If a poster needs someone else to clarify their generalized position, then they aren�t being objective. They are being subjectively selective.

It was very obvious what they meant you dumb idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7oFYfxWsFg

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:19

Space Kablooey: May 6, 2009

Bogus Adventure posted:

Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following:

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

Lmao what

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:20

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That being said, I'll bet there's probably a lot of stuff that was dropped in the editing (like everything to do with Finn)

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:23

Bogus Adventure: Jan 11, 2017; More like "Bulges Adventure"

HardDiskD posted:

Lmao what

That's really the best reaction anyone can have

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:23

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

ruddiger posted:

800 million dollar box office failure BvS

BvS was budgeted in the expectation that it would get a billion dollar box office, it fell significantly short of that and got mauled by the media into the bargain. Reserve your thunk for the psychos who head studios and set these kinds of standards.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:26

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skasion posted:

BvS was budgeted in the expectation that it would get a billion dollar box office, it fell significantly short of that and got mauled by the media into the bargain. Reserve your thunk for the psychos who head studios and set these kinds of standards.

Yeah, a movie (at least the blockbusters) is considered a failure if it doesn't make back like 10x its budget--although even then it mysteriously never turns a profit.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:28

Kevino07: Oct 16, 2008

Bogus Adventure posted:

Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following:

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

So the "JJ Edit" would just be a longer bad movie then.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:28

Kazak: Jan 10, 2012

I can easily believe that Disney micromanaged this trilogy to death

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:29

Moola: Aug 16, 2006

Bogus Adventure posted:

Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following:

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

I didnt read any of this

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:42

The Walrus: Jul 9, 2002; by Fluffdaddy

that poo poo is more believable than the real spoilers that came out lol

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:47

waah: Jun 20, 2011; Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Kazak posted:

I can easily believe that Disney micromanaged this trilogy to death

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:49

ruddiger: Jun 3, 2004

skasion posted:

BvS was budgeted in the expectation that it would get a billion dollar box office, it fell significantly short of that and got mauled by the media into the bargain. Reserve your thunk for the psychos who head studios and set these kinds of standards.

I�m definitely not denying the stupidity that fuels the empty capitalist suit that demands blood to be rung out of these movies/stones, but there�s also no denying that the fandom that surrounds the marvel/Disney franchises definitely feed and propagate the myth that the DCU is an out and out failure, even tho they�re still making movies that clearly reference and embrace that universe. BvS came out in 2016, a DCU movie making direct references to it came out in 2019, two of the spinoff movies have confirmed sequels (one coming out in a few months) and the Flash movie just got a hard release date.

Despite all this, the franchise is still considered a failure to the casual Marvel movie fan. It�s quite a feat of propaganda on Disney�s part.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:51

Trainee PornStar: Jul 20, 2006; I'm just an inbetweener

I love this thread.

When I was 7 years old I saw Starwars.. gently caress me! I was blown away! I saw Empire & Jedi when they came out & was equally impressed.
Phantom menace & the rest was a bit Meh! the latest ones are pure crap.

I wonder what 7 year old me would say? I'd probably love them...

# ? Jan 2, 2020 20:56

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12 year old me thought attack of the clones was the poo poo

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:00

SidneyIsTheKiller: Jul 16, 2019; I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Hey Sigourney Weaver, what do you think about the past few pages of this thread?

Gotta love that chain of like 3 or 4 people going "No, that's not an objective opinion, an objective opinion is {gives subjective opinion}."

Friends, the only opinions you could call objective are speculative (like a doctor's opinion on what might be causing a patient's ailment). Judgment evaluations (such as, you know, how good or bad a movie is) are subjective by their very definition. "Objective opinion" is nearly an oxymoron, because meaning comes from the viewer.

Please stop watching movies and take up more tangible and objective hobbies like monster truck rallies and sumo wrestling, thanks.

SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jan 2, 2020

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:11

ruddiger: Jun 3, 2004

Glad they made the former space slave decidedly apolitical.

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jan 2, 2020

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:16

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Strikes me as fairly accurate tbh. Dudes entire planet got enslaved and stripmined by the empire nearly 50 years ago and he�s spent all that time ignoring the fact while bumming around the galaxy with his crook best friend. You thought Han was a bad dad, but how hosed up is Chewie�s kid at this point?

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:32

Shbobdb: Dec 16, 2010; by Reene

Would you describe the barbaric Chewbacca who barely speaks a language people can understand as "fleet footed"?

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:33

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ruddiger posted:

Glad they made the former space slave decidedly apolitical.

He just likes killing :shrug:

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:36

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

This is what a son who only sees his father on Life Day looks like

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:38

feller: Jul 5, 2006

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Hey Sigourney Weaver, what do you think about the past few pages of this thread?

Gotta love that chain of like 3 or 4 people going "No, that's not an objective opinion, an objective opinion is {gives subjective opinion}."

Friends, the only opinions you could call objective are speculative (like a doctor's opinion on what might be causing a patient's ailment). Judgment evaluations (such as, you know, how good or bad a movie is) are subjective by their very definition. "Objective opinion" is nearly an oxymoron, because meaning comes from the viewer.

Please stop watching movies and take up more tangible and objective hobbies like monster truck rallies and sumo wrestling, thanks.

Edit: seriously, eat poo poo.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:43

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Try to imagine all the events of the movies with Chewbacca not caring about anything political.

Ep 3: Ha, look at those political chumps fighting the droids down there. Command station where it's at. Woah Yoda just cut those two dudes heads off all of a sudden. The clones are helping liberate my planet and my people and he just murdered two of them with no explanation. Oh well I don't like politics I'm taking him to his ship and also not telling anyone, don't want no trouble."

Ep 4: Empire? Rebels? All the same to me. I mean one of them literally enslaved me but ya know, water under the bridge. I'm just follow Han he's my bud. Ha ha, I can't wait to see the looks on their faces when they realize I'm not handcuffed. Epic prank bro!!!

Ep 5: God drat this hyperdrive sucks poo poo. I'm always fixing it. Welp that's everything on my mind right now.

Ep 6: Welp been fighting the established galactic government in favor a rebel movement to restore the Republic for several years at this point. Wish everyone would just calm down about these politics. drat this chicken walker is cool. Me and Han gotta get one of these. Hey Yub-yub, you want a hit of this?

Ep 7: drat Han just got killed by his son Kylo Ren, who is an instrumental figure in the new Empire. And they just blew up Coruscant or Not-Coruscant or some poo poo. Dang I miss Han and have no other feelings about any of this.

Ep 8: gently caress you porg, I'm hungry.

Ep 9: lol Rey totally thought I was on that ship. I bet she's crying now. Epic prank bro!!!

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:48

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I would subscribe to Chewbacca�s prank YouTube channel

# ? Jan 2, 2020 21:52

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Bogus Adventure posted:

Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following:

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

Some of this would have made it suck worse if not omitted.

The "Get rid of most of the ghosts for the sake of the Chinese release and make sure you only use this hex color for force ghosts" rings true. Look at how they had to censor the world of warcraft, they got some taboos about how you're allowed to depict the undead.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:30

Applewhite: Aug 16, 2014; by vyelkin; Nap Ghost

Trainee PornStar posted:

I love this thread.

When I was 7 years old I saw Starwars.. gently caress me! I was blown away! I saw Empire & Jedi when they came out & was equally impressed.
Phantom menace & the rest was a bit Meh! the latest ones are pure crap.

I wonder what 7 year old me would say? I'd probably love them...

My 7 year old wants to watch TFA on a loop. She loves BB8 and Kylo Ren best.

I don�t know where I went wrong as a parent

# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:35

Best Bi Geek Squid: Mar 25, 2016

"and what's the deal with star destroyers? they don't actually destroy stars! Only planets! Have you guys heard about this?"

# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:48

Nice Guy Patron: Jun 29, 2015

Remember the guy who was mad that posters weren't engaging Star Wars In Good Faith.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 22:48

Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

my dog died im sad posted:

Remember the guy who was mad that posters weren't engaging Star Wars In Good Faith.

Edit: Seriously, eat poo poo

# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:06

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

skasion posted:

This is what a son who only sees his father on Life Day looks like

The wookie genocide has vindicated the EMpire.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:15

Moola: Aug 16, 2006

my dog died im sad posted:

Remember the guy who was mad that posters weren't engaging Star Wars In Good Faith.

Yeah lol

# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:41

a mysterious cloak: Apr 5, 2003; Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!

Trainee PornStar posted:

I love this thread.

When I was 7 years old I saw Starwars.. gently caress me! I was blown away! I saw Empire & Jedi when they came out & was equally impressed.
Phantom menace & the rest was a bit Meh! the latest ones are pure crap.

I wonder what 7 year old me would say? I'd probably love them...

except for the prequel bit, I feel like they were the worst. 7 year old me would probably love them all.

# ? Jan 2, 2020 23:56

Zeta Acosta: Dec 16, 2019; #essereFerrari

Owlbear Camus posted:

Jesus that poo poo sucks they want old Palpy to be a master manipulator behind everything but in order to make it work his plans have to be just fukkin stupid as hell.

paul senile was that guy from kung pao who got his rear end beat?

# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:38

Laterite: Mar 14, 2007; It's Gutfest '89; Grimey Drawer

Applewhite posted:

My 7 year old wants to watch TFA on a loop. She loves BB8 and Kylo Ren best.

I don�t know where I went wrong as a parent

Eh, I think TFA is a fun movie on its own merits, particularly for kids around that age. My daughter loved it at the time but moved on fairly quickly. In general I find SW now doesn't have the same mass appeal to kids as the OT did when I was growing up, or kids who grew up with the prequels/Clone Wars series.

# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:39

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

It's almost impressive that my opinion of TFA was "It's fine, whatever, it had potential, the characters are good" and TLJ was "It's got some deep flaws but it definitely shook things up for the third act and I liked some of the risks it took" and then they managed to drop a third film that made both of them much worse by existing.

Like what is the point of the fight between the Resistance and First Order with Palpy as a threat in being with a million billion Death Star Destroyers? They hollowed out Illum to make a big laser shotgun, but Palpy could have done the same thing by loaning them like 5 of his souped up laser triangles. TLJ kills off Snoke in a surprise move that sets the stage for Kylo to struggle with his inner conflict while being the Supreme Leader, only we find out that Snoke was literally a creation and in, no exaggeration, the first 5 minutes of the new movie Kylo finds a new Evil Overlord to be a lieutenant to instead of running with the setup of Supreme Leader Kylo Ren.

Now whenever I watch the first two instead of saying "these are flawed but will be good if they stick the landing" I know that nothing will ever redeem any of it.

Hail satan.

# ? Jan 3, 2020 00:46

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Chomp8645 posted:

Try to imagine all the events of the movies with Chewbacca not caring about anything political.

Ep 3: Ha, look at those political chumps fighting the droids down there. Command station where it's at. Woah Yoda just cut those two dudes heads off all of a sudden. The clones are helping liberate my planet and my people and he just murdered two of them with no explanation. Oh well I don't like politics I'm taking him to his ship and also not telling anyone, don't want no trouble."

Ep 4: Empire? Rebels? All the same to me. I mean one of them literally enslaved me but ya know, water under the bridge. I'm just follow Han he's my bud. Ha ha, I can't wait to see the looks on their faces when they realize I'm not handcuffed. Epic prank bro!!!

Ep 5: God drat this hyperdrive sucks poo poo. I'm always fixing it. Welp that's everything on my mind right now.

Ep 6: Welp been fighting the established galactic government in favor a rebel movement to restore the Republic for several years at this point. Wish everyone would just calm down about these politics. drat this chicken walker is cool. Me and Han gotta get one of these. Hey Yub-yub, you want a hit of this?

Ep 7: drat Han just got killed by his son Kylo Ren, who is an instrumental figure in the new Empire. And they just blew up Coruscant or Not-Coruscant or some poo poo. Dang I miss Han and have no other feelings about any of this.

Ep 8: gently caress you porg, I'm hungry.

Ep 9: lol Rey totally thought I was on that ship. I bet she's crying now. Epic prank bro!!!

Tbf chewie is a dog and this aligns

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Glenn Quebec posted:

Tbf chewie is a dog and this aligns

is chewie desexed?

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