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MiddleOne posted:I think you're conflating trigger with cause. I guess you're right. Anyway I'd say this incident is closer to the Astro-Hungarian hawks getting their war with Serbia after endless baying without first getting an excuse (in the form of the dead archduke) and instead just deciding to do it, just because.
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fafish posted:Excellent work by the army and their intelligence (be it CIA or in-house), and excellent work by the generals that pitched the president into this. Bad guys got a kick in the groin that is deeply registered. A lot of positive and encouraging feedback from Iranian and Iraqi citizens. https://twitter.com/BASEDSAVAGE_/status/1093385072219222017?s=19
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So uh my swedish news flashes are telling me the US is sending another 3000 troop to the middle east.
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fafish posted:Excellent work by the army and their intelligence (be it CIA or in-house), and excellent work by the generals that pitched the president into this. Bad guys got a kick in the groin that is deeply registered. A lot of positive and encouraging feedback from Iranian and Iraqi citizens. John Bolton is a goon?
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MiddleOne posted:So uh my swedish news flashes are telling me the US is sending another 3000 troop to the middle east. They're deploying a fast mobility unit division of the 82nd airborne (paratroopers). So about 700 to start. Then after that come the additional 3-4k. They're going to Kuwait.
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Randarkman posted:Astro-Hungarian drat, what timeline are you from? sounds 
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Randarkman posted:Franz Ferdinand assassination really isn't the most applicable I think and its quite overblown as the single explanation for WW1, especially out of context. What it was is that it gave the hardliners in Austria-Hungary who'd been hurting for a war with Serbia for years the excuse they needed and the Germans, rather than try to stop them or even find out what they were planning to do, just told them "sure, whatever, Germany supports you." Uh replace "Austria-Hungary" with "Saudi Arabia" and "Germany" with "US" and "Serbia" with "Iran" and that's basically the same thing, except the hardliners in the US want as war just as bad if not more than the Saudi's Except Germany wanted a war too (although for different reasons than A-H). Really everyone wanted a war.
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The US isn't currently in a strategic position to invade Iran although we are likely in a position to lob a bunch of missiles into it 4k troops is a raindrop in a torrent compared to whats needed
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First probated and now this. https://twitter.com/NPA_English/status/1213146037227048960
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Jasus Christ posted:https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1213141648475119621 I'm reminded of something a Dutch chess grandmaster once said: quote:"How different is chess in the United States. The game of chess has never been held in great esteem by the North Americans. Their culture is steeped in deeply anti-intellectual tendencies. They pride themselves in having created the game of poker. It is their national game, springing from a tradition of westward expansion, of gun-slinging skirt chasers who slept with cows and horses. They distrust chess as a game of Central European immigrants with a homesick longing for clandestine conspiracies in quiet coffee houses. Their deepest conviction is that bluff and escalation will achieve more than scheming and patience (witness their foreign policy). Then again he also said "women have never thought or made anything worth considering", so eh.
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Orange Devil posted:I'm reminded of something a Dutch chess grandmaster once said: Ironically Jennifer Shahade is a chess grandmaster and professional poker player!
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Orange Devil posted:I'm reminded of something a Dutch chess grandmaster once said:
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Orange Devil posted:I'm reminded of something a Dutch chess grandmaster once said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmnC-yaOHkM
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Feldegast42 posted:The US isn't currently in a strategic position to invade Iran although we are likely in a position to lob a bunch of missiles into it Iran is one of the least friendly places to invade in the world and unlike Iraq we don't have a puppet nation who'd be okay with us undertaking a military buildup for months on their border. An actual invasion of Iran is off the table for reasons of physical impossibility.
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atelier morgan posted:Iran is one of the least friendly places to invade in the world and unlike Iraq we don't have a puppet nation who'd be okay with us undertaking a military buildup for months on their border. An actual invasion of Iran is off the table for reasons of physical impossibility. If they manage to neutralize the Iranian small boat navy and missile positions they can attempt naval invasions of Bandar Abbas and Bandar Bushehr, but anything further strains belief.
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Ham posted:If they manage to neutralize the Iranian small boat navy and missile positions they can attempt naval invasions of Bandar Abbas and Bandar Bushehr, but anything further strains belief. That's what their vast supply of naval mines are for.
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fafish posted:Excellent work by the army and their intelligence (be it CIA or in-house), and excellent work by the generals that pitched the president into this. Bad guys got a kick in the groin that is deeply registered. A lot of positive and encouraging feedback from Iranian and Iraqi citizens. Hey so are you planning to enlist? I’m already pensioned out for life from one forever war but I’d be happy to see you go and do your part. Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Am I wrong in thinking that the US could force Iraq to let us use their country as a base? I'm sure they wouldn't like it, but could we strong arm them?
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taqueso posted:Am I wrong in thinking that the US could force Iraq to let us use their country as a base? I'm sure they wouldn't like it, but could we strong arm them? It's not like you haven't been doing that for decades already..
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taqueso posted:Am I wrong in thinking that the US could force Iraq to let us use their country as a base? I'm sure they wouldn't like it, but could we strong arm them? that was the point of the Iraq war. it failed, to the point that any US base would be spending most of its time fighting off attacks from locals with ordnance marked "Made In Iran" on a regular basis, and that's before the ACTUAL iranian forces picked off any elements of the supply chain they thought looked tasty in the mountains.
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Frosted Flake posted:Hey so are you planning to enlist? He posts like he enlisted 6 months ago
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Me and my buddy enlisted at the same time right after high school. He joined the navy, I joined the army but ended up skipping out on my ship date because I'd had to change jobs due to colourblindless and was disappointed with that, and also an impulsive kid. I moved in with my canadian significant other instead. We both went in like "hey, it's college money" and after he got out of boot camp it was amazing watching him go from "hey man, beats McDonald's, I'm not planning on shooting anyone" to "  " to "the US military is the single dumbest organization on the face of this planet" over the course of about a year and a half.e: now he has PTSD and never got that college money. indeed
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Actually I'm cool with us all dying in WW3 now. Thanks.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Me and my buddy enlisted at the same time right after high school. He joined the navy, I joined the army but ended up skipping out on my ship date because I'd had to change jobs due to colourblindless and was disappointed with that, and also an impulsive kid. I moved in with my canadian significant other instead. I actually missed the " " phase first read
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mila kunis posted:https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/1212528830218407936 Is this account reliable? Because if so, this is horrifying.
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Snipee posted:Is this account reliable? Because if so, this is horrifying. Hold on while I sell my soul real quick because this is gonna make me a fuckin billionaire.
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Feldegast42 posted:The US isn't currently in a strategic position to invade Iran although we are likely in a position to lob a bunch of missiles into it They're there mostly to be 4000 tries at casus belli
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bad poster go bye bye https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1213185120032739328
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Why do you keep posting useless takes from your dumbass twitter feed? I understand it's your thing but it's completely poo poo. It seems that there is a lot of potential strike surface area for the multiple military organizations that we just attacked. Have any of our ME allies or aligned nations made any direct statements about the launch? The success of the Houthis against SA really makes me wonder whether the response might extend to our allies in the region as well. https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/iran/.premium-by-killing-soleimani-u-s-takes-another-step-toward-war-with-iran-1.8351198 Looks like the view from Israel is that we have pushed all in. Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the draft was reinstated to shore up US forces spread thin across the ME. who do you think is going to reinstate the draft, name some names of the politicians you think will commit suicide by voting yes
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https://twitter.com/DavidADaoud/sta...ingawful.com%2F Well well. If it isn't the consequences to my actions.
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Snipee posted:Is this account reliable? Because if so, this is horrifying. Yeah it's pretty accurate, which is probably why it is being restricted and shadow banned.
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Libluini posted:I do remember an article in our media talking about how the Polish president had this weird thing going where he would get up during a flight, walk into the cockpit and start screaming at his pilots, which probably was the reason the plane crashed. Apparently it was a miracle he hadn't died horribly in a plane accident until then. So your response to an unproven allegation is an out of this world fantasy explanation. Nice. Clearly SA gets the third rate Putin trolls.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Why do you keep posting useless takes from your dumbass twitter feed? I understand it's your thing but it's completely poo poo.
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:An invasion of Iran could mean fighting proxies with Hezbollah in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon. It would probably also require defending the KSA and UAE from attacks on oil refineries and desalination plants, as well as attacks on shipping in the Gulf. Lol. The draft isn't coming back unless actual WW3 breaks out and we're fighting Russia or China, and even then, that would be a surprise. The military doesnt want conscription and any politician who approves a draft for fighting another war in the middle east might as well commit suicide.
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Yeah, I've spent the time since high school desperately scrabbling from gig to gig and now you're going to give me a gun and expect me not to frag my officer -- Millennials and Gen Z
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OctaMurk posted:The military doesnt want conscription and any politician who approves a draft for fighting another war in the middle east might as well commit suicide.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:This is the truth. In modern US doctrine conscripts are a liability, not an asset. Short of some Red Dawn type poo poo the draft is dead. this. i feel like if a war does happen and trump tries it. it would go bad real loving fast.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this. i feel like if a war does happen and trump tries it. it would go bad real loving fast.
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Grouchio posted:Full-scale army mutiny? A military coup? probably big protests and poo poo. think vietnam protests and riots but bigger.
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