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Blowing up the shrines in Iran is pretty much the one thing the US can do to guarantee that Iran would launch attacks in the US homeland as well as actively undertake a kidnap and kill plan for american gov representatives abroad. It would be fantastically ill-conceived.
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Jan 5, 2020 00:34
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Yes, but maybe have you thought how exploding that general in front of the red carpet was necessary to prevent Iran from attacking the US?
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Jan 5, 2020 00:36
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Blowing up the shrines in Iran is pretty much the one thing the US can do to guarantee that Iran would launch attacks in the US homeland as well as actively undertake a kidnap and kill plan for american gov representatives abroad. It would be fantastically ill-conceived. So what your saying is we are gonna do it.
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Jan 5, 2020 00:36
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freeasinbeer posted:So what your saying is we are gonna do it. We definitely are because Donald John Trump continuously puts himself in a rhetorical position where the only moves are to continue escalating or capitulate.
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Jan 5, 2020 00:38
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steinrokkan posted:America has found its main advantage over Iran - Iran can't retaliate and bomb America's principal cultural sites because Americans are degenerate animals with no culture. Easy killer. You had a unilateral decision made by Trump and a few close advisors, for a reason we will probably never know to do and say these things. Don’t pool the rest of us in with that piece of poo poo.
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Jan 5, 2020 00:47
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ganglysumbia posted:Easy killer. lookit this cultureless dweeb who can't spot a joke
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Jan 5, 2020 00:52
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ganglysumbia posted:Easy killer. #NotAllAmericans
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Jan 5, 2020 00:53
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I see the President is now attempting to manage a crisis in the Middle East using the knowledge and wisdom he gained from watching 1988's Bloodsport while fast-forwarding through all the boring talky parts.
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Jan 5, 2020 00:54
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pretend i posted trumps head on JCVD's body doing the splits in bloodsport and then pretend he retweeted it
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Jan 5, 2020 00:56
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The us mil is certainly formidable but deciding to take on the entire shia world with nearly zero statements of support from anyone capable of defeating barefoot conscripts is concerning.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:02
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Frank Sidebottom posted:Good thread on what Soleimani was doing in Baghdad. this is all bullshit
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Jan 5, 2020 01:04
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https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1213468436917080066Herstory Begins Now, two days ago posted:Trump, washing down his third cheeseburger of the day with some diet coke, clicks some banner ad promising 'one simple trick to get rid of cabinet members who might turn state's witnesses-human right's advocates hate this!' I'm pretending this is 100% credible because lol I need that comic relief rn
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Jan 5, 2020 01:06
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Also that reuters article is getting completely savaged by everyone who knows literally anything about anything.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:12
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One of the most baffling things about this whole clown show is that despite how fundamentally dishonest Trump is he seems incapable of sticking to even the simplest cover story and will trip over himself to spill the beans. Like when he reassured everyone that the Syrian oil fields were secure after loving over the Kurds he just had to announce this whole thing is some Neocon General's idea of poetic revenge for the Iran Hostage Crisis. 
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Jan 5, 2020 01:13
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lol trump bringin are boys home
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Jan 5, 2020 01:24
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There's a word for people who say poo poo like Trump did tonight, and it's terrorist.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:31
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It's great that the US has never sold drugs.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:31
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Also that reuters article is getting completely savaged by everyone who knows literally anything about anything.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:33
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Dog Friday posted:One thing I'm not quite getting is the justification for the assassination being the fact that Soleimani has "blood on his hands"... What is the US body count in the Middle East these days? Many magnitudes higher than Iran and an enormous number of those civilian. So by this logic, shouldn't the US leadership, past and present, also be a-okay for assassination? 
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Jan 5, 2020 01:40
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Sinteres posted:There's a word for people who say poo poo like Trump did tonight, and it's re-elected.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:48
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Dapper_Swindler posted:like i get what he is sorta saying but thats very close to being like wehraboo contrarian poo poo who jerk it to loving Rommel or peiper. while i think its a bad thing(because assassinating state actors when your not in a hot war is loving bad on so many levels) heartfelt memorializing over Iranian tywin lannister is kinda hosed up and why is dislike war nerd in general. he will probably legit cry when assad dies of old age. Honestly I'd rather read wehraboo contrarian poo poo than more of the US' run-of-the-mill "we killed the bad guy, he was the very worst guy on Earth, worth than ten thousand Saddam Hitler, he was the vilest demon that ever blackened this world and we killed him, hooray, thanks to our selfless and immaculate heroes such as Eddie Gallagher". Like, what purpose does it serve to call him "Iranian tywin lannister" except turn him into some dumb villain figure from a TV show? What does it do besides relaying the echo chamber of demonization of the enemy so as to manufacture consent for the inevitable countless war crimes against Iranian people? Oh yeah, he was instrumental in booting Daesh out of Iraq and also in humiliating the genocidal forces of the Saudi in Yemen. What a fiend. Hot take of the week: if President Trump wants to kill an unambiguously bad guy who's worse than ten thousand Saddam Hitler and who was directly responsible for causing the death of thousands of Americans, the one he should drone-strike is Dick Cheney. terrorist ambulance posted:I can't decide which is more wild: i) America considers that there is only one sovereign nation in the world, itself. ii) America considers that terrorists on her side are good guys, and most of its works of fiction serve to glorify the acts of good-guy terrorists, like Jack Bauer or Rambo.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:58
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We really need to stop giving the Houthi's credit for wailing on SA in Yemen to Iranians. Iran contributed a little technology, some weapons, and training, but only after the Houthi were already winning. Calling the Houthi Iranian proxies is a neocon talking point
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Jan 5, 2020 02:04
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The thing that still really perplexes me is why so many people in the administration were apparently all in on the idea that the Iranians would just fuckin take it with no response. It's rare to be able to say that anyone in government actually believes something, but they really seem to have bought into that idea 100%
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Jan 5, 2020 02:32
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Herstory Begins Now posted:The thing that still really perplexes me is why so many people in the administration were apparently all in on the idea that the Iranians would just fuckin take it with no response. It's rare to be able to say that anyone in government actually believes something, but they really seem to have bought into that idea 100% i think alot of the smart people are gone. all thats left are various type of bootlicks or true believers.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:37
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Squalid posted:lol Soleimani was more than a general, he was a hero to them. The equivalent of Mattis, maybe more to them.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:40
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Herstory Begins Now posted:The thing that still really perplexes me is why so many people in the administration were apparently all in on the idea that the Iranians would just fuckin take it with no response. It's rare to be able to say that anyone in government actually believes something, but they really seem to have bought into that idea 100% Sheldon Adelson literally wants to nuke Iran, and Pompeo believes in the Rapture. They want this.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:49
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Jan 5, 2020 02:55
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https://twitter.com/rcallimachi/status/1213421769777909761 long thread, worth the read
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Jan 5, 2020 02:59
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Darth Walrus posted:Sheldon Adelson literally wants to nuke Iran, and Pompeo believes in the Rapture. They want this. Yep. Our government is trying to goad Iran into declaring war. They want their apocalyptic battle in the Middle East. Iran didn't respond as rapidly as they hoped so now they are going to poke them until they do.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:59
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Herstory Begins Now posted:The thing that still really perplexes me is why so many people in the administration were apparently all in on the idea that the Iranians would just fuckin take it with no response. It's rare to be able to say that anyone in government actually believes something, but they really seem to have bought into that idea 100% Because the plan was just a fake idea they gave Trump to convince him to do something else and it backfired. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/politics/trump-suleimani.html quote:In the chaotic days leading to the death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s most powerful commander, top American military officials put the option of killing him — which they viewed as the most extreme response to recent Iranian-led violence in Iraq — on the menu they presented to President Trump. Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Jan 5, 2020 03:00
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Trabisnikof posted:Because the plan was just a fake idea they gave Trump to convince him to do something else and it backfired. The Pentagon is full of decorum poisoned idiots and it came back to bite them this time.
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Jan 5, 2020 03:16
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Relevant Tangent posted:The Pentagon is full of decorum poisoned idiots and it came back to bite them this time. ".....oh poo poo"
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Jan 5, 2020 03:29
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Phi230 posted:i hope iran has something going on in air defense artillery Iran has been preparing for this for a long time, they have better air defense capabilities than some US allies. Any sort of air maneuvers near their airspace would have extremely dire costs for the US. Herstory Begins Now posted:Also that reuters article is getting completely savaged by everyone who knows literally anything about anything. That's good but literally every major news outlet is running the same story/analysis and there's zero pushback on any of the big networks. Most Americans have zero idea who Suleimani is so expect the full court press to turn him into Bin Laden's understudy until the next big crisis pushes this story aside. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Jan 5, 2020 03:33
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Yeah I don't think the Pentagon understands that the last time we waged a major offensive it was against a joke of an army in Iraq. Any attack on Iran would be incredibly costly, very quick.
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Jan 5, 2020 03:35
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah I don't think the Pentagon understands that the last time we waged a major offensive it was against a joke of an army in Iraq. Any attack on Iran would be incredibly costly, very quick. I'm sure the Pentagon understands what Iran's military capabilities are, SA poster Flaming Liberal
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Jan 5, 2020 03:36
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Trabisnikof posted:Because the plan was just a fake idea they gave Trump to convince him to do something else and it backfired. This rings true. Anyone have links for non-Trump people believing Iran wouldn't retaliate? I haven't read much on that side of things. It seems hard to believe, especially given the poo poo Iran has caused lately, like the attack on the Saudi refinery.
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Jan 5, 2020 03:40
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Trabisnikof posted:Because the plan was just a fake idea they gave Trump to convince him to do something else and it backfired. If they hadn't fired everyone with a working frontal cortex they would have learned by now that Trump is incapable of critical, original thought and of moderating himself. Had they told him filling a swimming pool with balloons with Muhammeds face on them and throwing ham and cheese hot pockets at them to pop them was the most extreme option, dipshit would have done it the instant he felt insulted.
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Jan 5, 2020 03:41
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah I don't think the Pentagon understands that the last time we waged a major offensive it was against a joke of an army in Iraq. Any attack on Iran would be incredibly costly, very quick. The Iraqi and Iranian army were quite on par with each other during the Iran-Iraq war. I think today the US could easily take Tehran, like they took Baghdad. However, they won't be able to supress whatever insurgency comes thereafter. Also because unlike Iraq, Iran is mountainous country resembling Afghanistan (but much bigger).
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Rukeli posted:The Iraqi and Iranian army were quite on par with each other during the Iran-Iraq war. I think today the US could easily take Tehran, like they took Baghdad. However, they won't be able to supress whatever insurgency comes thereafter. Also because unlike Iraq, Iran is mountainous country resembling Afghanistan (but much bigger). Two problems: Iran is not a state invented by a british pedophile drawing on a map but an actual nation state with a cohesive identity. Every weakness of Hussein's Iraq that made it easier to destroy is missing. There's also no handy flat terrain border with a friendly Kuwait to let the US stage for months in advance.
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