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Viva Miriya posted:The concept of international law is a joke to me anyway. There's no one to enforce said law except other nations. And how often do they ever do that when it counts? The benefits of a rules-based order aren't readily noticed until they're gone. The answer to international law being poorly- or selectively-enforced isn't to throw up one's hands and say, "Let states do as they will!", instead, it's something that we have to fight for. Otherwise, the same bad or imperfect actors that flaunted the law as it existed will have an even freer hand. Unrelated, but I really can't blame Iran if they dash for a nuke at this point. Just have to hope that the US/Israel don't attempt a direct intervention to prevent it.
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Cugel the Clever posted:"The concept of law is a joke to me anyway. There's no one to enforce said law except other humans. And how often do they ever do that when it counts?" Trump’s relations with North Korea is all the evidence any nation needs that getting a nuke is critical.
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not caring here posted:Yeah, I don't think anyone is now saying suilemani was a cool guy, more that if you nail a dude on a diplomatic mission that you set up, there's gonna be consequences. Feature, not bug. Gutting federal institutions and turning the remaining diplomatic corps into a human fleet of USS Coles seems exactly the sort of thing the GOP fantasized about from '01 to '16. Tea Party at Armageddon.
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Cugel the Clever posted:"The concept of law is a joke to me anyway. There's no one to enforce said law except other humans. And how often do they ever do that when it counts?" Uhh states already do as they will so lmfao Professor, gently caress off.
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fknlo posted:I work in one of 20ish facilities that are vital for air transportation to function. At least there's a fence and some guards at a shack, that'll stop some bad guys! Working in a building that is absolutely on a target list is actually kinda freeing. If the balloon goes up while we’re at work, we’ll probably never even know it.
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https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1213908519830855680?s=20 https://twitter.com/OsintWorld/status/1213913755492458496
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From AJE's scroll https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/soleimani-funeral-iran-latest-updates-200105053715338.html https://twitter.com/CAIRNational/status/1213888605334233088 quote:The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said more than 60 Iranians and Iranian-Americans were "detained at length and questioned at the Peace Arch Border Crossing" in Blaine, Washington.
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Nick Soapdish posted:From AJE's scroll https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/soleimani-funeral-iran-latest-updates-200105053715338.html what. the. gently caress.
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So like what 3 weeks until we stop using the concentration camps for Mexicans and start using them for Iranians? Or do you think theyre just gonna say fuckit theyre all brown close enough toss them all in? George Takei is gonna be blowing up all over Twitter on this one.
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Isn't the green zone covered in multiple overlapping CIWS sectors or some other form of anti-missile/ballistic poo poo?
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Flying_Crab posted:what. the. gently caress. Muslim-ban, duh. ... 
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Isn't the green zone covered in multiple overlapping CIWS sectors or some other form of anti-missile/ballistic poo poo? No. I would not recklessly publish a list of passive defense measures, but it’s public knowledge that there is no C-RAM remaining in Iraq. Just in Afghanistan for now.
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75 rounds a second of 20mill that can reach out to 2.2 miles? gently caress i would NOT want to live anywhere near a us embassy if we have thise things parked all around them
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Stravag posted:75 rounds a second of 20mill that can reach out to 2.2 miles? gently caress i would NOT want to live anywhere near a us embassy if we have thise things parked all around them It’s less dangerous than it sounds. You can program in no-fire zones, radars connected to the system dynamically cease fire if they detect aircraft in the path, and the rounds self-destruct while airborne, such that small enough pieces of metal fall down to make it so to take lethal damage from the debris they’d basically have to swallow or inhale the C-RAM round debris on the way down. Debris size from the incoming varies!
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I went a long, looooong time before I finally "got" the whole crack ping thing, but holy poo poo now here it is. Does this mean my great aunt's "I don't give Facebook consent to own my images" post is also valid now?
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mlmp08 posted:It’s less dangerous than it sounds. You can program in no-fire zones, radars connected to the system dynamically cease fire if they detect aircraft in the path, and the rounds self-destruct while airborne, such that small enough pieces of metal fall down to make it so to take lethal damage from the debris they’d basically have to swallow or inhale the C-RAM round debris on the way down. Debris size from the incoming varies! I would care less about the safety issue than the sound. CIWS emptying a mag is glorious as hell, but I wouldn't want to get woken up by it.
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Welp. To quote the masterwork Smokin Aces this is loving up fast and picking up speed. I think im gonna plan some vacation time in feb to visit friends i havent seen in years just incase we're still allowed to travel inside the country by that point mlmp08 posted:It’s less dangerous than it sounds. You can program in no-fire zones, radars connected to the system dynamically cease fire if they detect aircraft in the path, and the rounds self-destruct while airborne, such that small enough pieces of metal fall down to make it so to take lethal damage from the debris they’d basically have to swallow or inhale the C-RAM round debris on the way down. Debris size from the incoming varies! Ah ok didnt know about the self destruct function for the rounds. That makes it way less terrifying but id still be wary incase you get that one round headed your way where it didnt detonate. But then again at that point you have to worry about micrometeorites with your name on them i guess.
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My favorite description of CIWS is "it's not the last line of defense, it's the first step on damage control".
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Disproportionate response You know if we had an actual opposition party we could notch another war crime on his impending trial at the hague
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Declaring war via Twitter. loving millenials
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Stravag posted:
There's always going to be a failure rate on that self destruct of course.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Declaring war via Twitter. loving millenials I really wish everything wasn't so goddamn stupid all the goddamn time.
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Viva Miriya posted:Uhh states already do as they will so lmfao Professor, gently caress off. Yes, let's mock people who present their argument rationally, especially when they're right. 
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Declaring war via Twitter. loving millenials Declaring war crimes via Twitter.
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Godholio posted:Yes, let's mock people who present their argument rationally, especially when they're right. I don't have time for that soft rear end bullshit. gently caress him and gently caress you too. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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mlmp08 posted:No. I would not recklessly publish a list of passive defense measures, but it’s public knowledge that there is no C-RAM remaining in Iraq. Just in Afghanistan for now. In the videos of recent rocket attacks you can see C-RAM attempting to intercept
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Stultus Maximus posted:Declaring war crimes via Twitter. Ayy fam snapchat me the pics from the canoeing trip - SEAL TEAM SIX group chat
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https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1213934759283449858 Iran definitely going to let this one go.
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I do have a fear that one day I'm going to wake up and we'll actually have launched a nuke in retaliation for something.
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Pine Cone Jones posted:I do live in hope that one day I'm going to wake up and we'll actually have launched a nuke in retaliation for something.
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Subtweeting notifying Congress on the use of military force; truly a bitch-rear end move if ever there was one.
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I'm actually curious in if there is any escalation Iran can do that would not lead to Trump further escalating? Besides the legislature growing a pair and forbidding Trump the use of further military force in the middle east. I think anything Iran does besides posture is only going to result in an ouroboros of stupid death without escalating to nuclear war.
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LibCrusher posted:In the videos of recent rocket attacks you can see C-RAM attempting to intercept Source them videos please.
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Jan 5, 2020 22:46
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The sandbox one has the wrong kind of c-ram
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Woodchip posted:The sandbox one has the wrong kind of c-ram 
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It's cool that if you believe any of the propaganda about the jingoistic dick waving "maximum pressure" campaign the purpose was to foment instability and make the domestic pressure untenable. Shame about that crazy little 'reality' thing where we just gave the entire country something to rally around, working completely at odds with the previous propaganda but hey I guess gently caress reality though. Forget what your lying eyes are telling you, listen to the party, trust in the plan or some poo poo, trigger some liberals with your not being politically correct. Your kids will really feel bad next Thanksgiving when they're all proven wrong by the glorious orange god and have to come groveling back to you, tears in their eyes saying 'Sir, sir, I was wrong!' or what the gently caress ever motivates these people other than hatred and spite.
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