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Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


Resting Lich Face posted:

What a oval office. Can I say that in an aussie thread?

Whatever I'll eat the 6 if not.

when in rome!

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Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
I imagine even if firefighters have decent savings they're probably losing >$1K a month at best just staying alive and paying bills since they're unable to work for an income at the same time. And that's not even including people who have don't have decent savings who volunteer because they need their town to not burn down.

I get why the volunteer model makes sense for rural firefighting, since the fire risk is varies a lot throughout the year (for example, the fire danger in July in southern states is probably very low) but they should still be compensated for their labour. You'd have to be irredeemably evil to suggest otherwise.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
They get some kind of leave but it’s only like 20 days in a year and a lot of the others have used their holidays to cover the gap. That doesn’t help if your self employed though. I’m seriously considering joining up once poo poo dies down cause as a teacher I have 12 weeks of the year where I’m not technically working but still doing school stuff so I can help out more than sitting on my arse doing nothing

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Sometimes I get paid leave for SES work as I work for my state government in my normal job. But that is only when a state of emergency is declared.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
For reference, the Tailed Dunnart from Kangaroo island:



Aka the most adorable bush rat! With those tiny adorable legs It never had a chance :(

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
ecologists now estimate up to 1 billion animals lost

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Sorry lil fellas :(

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
yeah i...i want to say i tried, but it tastes bad in my mouth.

Visible Stink
Mar 31, 2010

Got a light, handsome?

Resting Lich Face posted:

What a oval office. Can I say that in an aussie thread?

Whatever I'll eat the 6 if not.

As an Australian I give every yank a c-word pass to use in this thread when taking about our pm

For he is a loving oval office

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
https://twitter.com/van_nishing/status/1214410626170155008

(He's Kevin Rudds nephew)

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Visible Stink posted:

As an Australian I give every yank a c-word pass to use in this thread when taking about our pm

For he is a loving oval office

There was this great quote in a book that I felt summed up Australian colloquialisms and swearing nicely:

Only in Australia is your best mate a total bastard, your neighbour whose dog just poo poo on your lawn is a bit of a bastard and your worst enemy is a loving bastard. And only an Australian understands the difference.


Or to quote the best bush poets ever to live:

I maybe a oval office, but at least I'm not a loving oval office.

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Jan 7, 2020

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Gridlocked posted:


Or to quote the best bush poets ever to live:

I maybe a oval office, but at least I'm not a loving oval office.

and we all aspire to one day be a sick oval office. ...one day.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

dr_rat posted:

For reference, the Tailed Dunnart from Kangaroo island:



Aka the most adorable bush rat! With those tiny adorable legs It never had a chance :(

gently caress that's sad, have they been mostly wiped out by the fires?

fliptophead
Oct 2, 2006
Are there any volunteer organisations for bush regeneration that can be linked?

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Resting Lich Face posted:

I can't loving believe your firefighters aren't getting paid for that poo poo (as far as I've read, I could be wrong). I grew up in California, another place that is routinely on fire, and my father and brother are volunteer firefighters for the local municipality but when they get sent out on strike teams to go fight the big wildfires elsewhere in the state they get paid a pretty good wage and that's in the capitalist dystopia that is the US. It's ridiculous; the guys out there risking their lives (and wildland fires are where firefighters die, not structure fires like in the movies) deserve better.

Stay safe aussie friends.

If you think that's unbelievable, just before New Years, when asked to provide funding and support, the loving PRIME MINISTER OF THE COUNTRY said no, because "they want to be there".

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ant-to-be-there


e: f;b.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

fliptophead posted:

Are there any volunteer organisations for bush regeneration that can be linked?

I'm not sure if these guys will be involved with restoration for these fires, but they do general restoration works for anybody wanting to plant native trees on land.

https://www.greenfleet.com.au/

edit: they're not volunteer, sorry.

drunkill fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Jan 7, 2020

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe
As far as I know, our work has a special type of leave called Disaster Leave. You claim it if you're affected by or volunteering for the fire. I hope more than a few workplaces do this.

I got it when I left home early on New Year's Eve because of, uh...

fliptophead
Oct 2, 2006

drunkill posted:

I'm not sure if these guys will be involved with restoration for these fires, but they do general restoration works for anybody wanting to plant native trees on land.

https://www.greenfleet.com.au/

Thanks I'll give that a look. As much as rebuilding people's homes is important it's also crucial to support the wildlife that's left as well.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

fliptophead posted:

Thanks I'll give that a look. As much as rebuilding people's homes is important it's also crucial to support the wildlife that's left as well.

They are not volunteers.

After a quick search, these guys: https://conservationvolunteers.com.au/news/2020/01/how-you-can-support-bushfire-recovery/

fliptophead
Oct 2, 2006

Yeah I checked them out and they were pretty corporate! That one looks way more promising

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

CODChimera posted:

gently caress that's sad, have they been mostly wiped out by the fires?

From Gridlocked post:

Gridlocked posted:

The very endangered Tailed Dunnart (it's a mouse thing) lives on the island. Again it is unknown how many have perished but it has been noted that given how many are left even losing 20 would be a significant impact.

The SA government puts them as critically engaged with less than at 500 left. :(
https://www.naturalresources.sa.gov.au/kangarooisland/plants-and-animals/native-animals/Kangaroo_Island_Dunnart

Maximum Sexy Pigeon
Jun 5, 2008

We must never speak of this!

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Picture of Roos dancing in the rain for good vibes



They're fighting

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Resting Lich Face posted:

What a oval office. Can I say that in an aussie thread?

Whatever I'll eat the 6 if not.



Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:

They're fighting

Don't harsh the vibe man!

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:

They're fighting

I see you've never danced the tango

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Hyperlynx posted:

If you think that's unbelievable, just before New Years, when asked to provide funding and support, the loving PRIME MINISTER OF THE COUNTRY said no, because "they want to be there".

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ant-to-be-there


e: f;b.

And that is why the RFS people are so angry with that ankle and are willing to make their displeasure known

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

I heard my Mum verbatim recite the greenies are to blame talking points and ended saying that Greta should go back to school. I really didn't think boomer brain rot would get her but I guess it was inevitable once she started using facebook. :(

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:

They're fighting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW01ac8j_6I

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:

They're fighting

That's just another name for dancing badly.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


.

Helith fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jan 7, 2020

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

spaceblancmange posted:

I heard my Mum verbatim recite the greenies are to blame talking points and ended saying that Greta should go back to school. I really didn't think boomer brain rot would get her but I guess it was inevitable once she started using facebook. :(

I'm sorry, dude :smith:

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

Hyperlynx posted:

I'm sorry, dude :smith:

Worse I also found out she reads the Daily Mail online :negative:

spaceblancmange fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Jan 7, 2020

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Found out that the guys who died on Kangaroo Island were friends/work colleagues of my dad's. Apparently a man and his son. The man died in his car and it seems the son left the car and tried to run on foot but didn't make it. :smith:

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Yeah, I deleted the post because I realised it wasn’t t actually that helpful.
I initially thought it was a useful size comparison but the actual scale of fires on it is way overblown so it outweighs any useful comparisons.
Do me a favour and edit your post too please?

Thanks mate, appreciate it.

Helith fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Jan 7, 2020

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

spaceblancmange posted:

Worse I also found out she reads the Daily Mail online :negative:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-07/fuel-reduction-burn-debate-rubbish-says-vic-fire-chief/11849522?pfmredir=sm

Ex-Priest Tobin
May 25, 2014

by Reene
The death toll seems pretty low given the scale of the fires.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Better evacuation readiness and communication this time and enough people still have the last "big one" on their minds. The statement should be "surprisingly few human deaths... So far" since shits still burning and will do for a while yet.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Ex-Priest Tobin posted:

The death toll seems pretty low given the scale of the fires.

People have it resonably fresh in their heads what happened in 2009.

Plus much better communication and a unambiguous "Evacuate early" messaging

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

spaceblancmange posted:

I heard my Mum verbatim recite the greenies are to blame talking points and ended saying that Greta should go back to school. I really didn't think boomer brain rot would get her but I guess it was inevitable once she started using facebook. :(

I was in the car with my Dad at Christmas and he tried to recite the "Greenies are to blame" stuff and I just went "No they're not" and quickly ran over the points why that's just dumb and he dropped the subject imediately. Today I had a long talk with him on the phone about the fires and he didn't bring up the Greens once. :unsmith:


He did try going "Well what do these people expect ScoMo to do???" so I had to explain all his fuckups.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
Currently hearing thunder. Hopefully it doesn’t spark anything new and I know the rfs has been busting a move to get the backburn in to help the mountains today.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-01/bushfire-relief:-how-you-can-help-frontline-services/11835156

That's got a few more options for how you can help. Though I'm getting a little paralysis about what the hell I can do with my spare money when so many are in need. Going to see where an extra pair of hands might help. :|

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