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Brown Moses posted:More details of the Iranian statement Don't like that mention of Israel, I hope that part's rhetoric and doesn't lead to actual strikes.
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I figured they would have their proxies attack them I didn't think Iran would fire missiles at them directly.. There is a "madman" theory of international crises whereby one can deter potential assailants by projecting the image of an irrational actor who will respond with disproportionately aggressive retaliations that though ultimately self-defeating would be so harmful as to deter attack. The problem is that Trump is not acting, he is legitimately a very stupid and unstable person and will ignore advisers telling him that a ground invasion of Iran would be disastrous in favour of the sound counsel of Sean Hannity and the screaming imp that lives inside his cell phone.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:15
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No freaking way Trump let's this go. I don't know if Iran wants an all out war with the US or just doesn't understand how stupid Trump is, but Trump isn't going to stand down after the picture of the Iranian flag. God drat it.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:16
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Nenonen posted:I'm trying to stay positive and think that a direct clash between USA and Iran will force all sides to negotiate and there will be a peace in Yemen this year. Maybe we can airdrop a crate with trump in it as a peace offering.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:16
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Donald the Dove.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:17
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Uhhh this is not good correct? Is there a situation where the US doesn’t respond ridiculously? I’m not trying to Arzy here but this isn’t going to be a “actual war” thing right?
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Jan 8, 2020 01:19
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melvinthemopboy3 posted:Donald the Dove. Did she ever express any regret for that, or is she just someone who's so impervious to any sense of consequence that she never addressed it?
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Jan 8, 2020 01:19
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teacup posted:Uhhh this is not good correct? Correct. This is Very Not Good.
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teacup posted:Uhhh this is not good correct? Is there a situation where the US doesn’t respond ridiculously? I’m not trying to Arzy here but this isn’t going to be a “actual war” thing right? There is no way any of us could know.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:20
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I feel like I should know this but my friend says ballistic missiles = escalation-bad-case-scenario and I think I need someone to ELI5 why this is worse than other potential missiles.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:20
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teacup posted:Uhhh this is not good correct? Is there a situation where the US doesn’t respond ridiculously? I’m not trying to Arzy here but this isn’t going to be a “actual war” thing right? What are they going to do? Assassinate a top-level military leader or something?
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Jan 8, 2020 01:20
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Any word on casualties? That would determine so, so much here.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:21
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Sinteres posted:Did she ever express any regret for that, or is she just someone who's so impervious to any sense of consequence that she never addressed it? You know the answer in your heart.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:21
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teacup posted:Uhhh this is not good correct? Is there a situation where the US doesn’t respond ridiculously? I’m not trying to Arzy here but this isn’t going to be a “actual war” thing right? Tonight Trump is going to get off a conference call with Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and be presented with military options, one of which will be to drop nuclear missiles on Iran. What do you think?
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Jan 8, 2020 01:22
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Putting aside the tragic nature of the ongoing events, I find it pretty amazing that we're living in in age where we are able to follow combat manuevers and wartime diplomatic exchanges in real time via Twitter...
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FizFashizzle posted:Tonight Trump is going to get off a conference call with Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson and be presented with military options, one of which will be to drop nuclear missiles on Iran. Tucker's actually anti war, not that it'll matter.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:23
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teacup posted:Uhhh this is not good correct? Is there a situation where the US doesn’t respond ridiculously? I’m not trying to Arzy here but this isn’t going to be a “actual war” thing right? Given everything we know about Trump he will respond and do something horrible and dumb and make everything worse.
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teacup posted:Uhhh this is not good correct? Is there a situation where the US doesn’t respond ridiculously? I’m not trying to Arzy here but this isn’t going to be a “actual war” thing right? short of trump having an attack of sanity this is absolutely "actual war" territory
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Jan 8, 2020 01:23
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pro starcraft loser posted:Any word on casualties? That would determine so, so much here. What I'm wondering is if the Iranians can accept not having inflicted any casualties. They've gotten people riled up about this in a pretty big way, they have to be seen as doing something big and visible unless they want that anger redirected towards themselves, especially in light of the recent wave of protests.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:23
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oh sweet I'm not the only one who asked https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1214703548295995393
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Jan 8, 2020 01:23
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Randarkman posted:What I'm wondering is if the Iranians can accept not having inflicted any casualties. They've gotten people riled up about this in a pretty big way, they have to be seen as doing something big and visible unless they want that anger redirected towards themselves, especially in light of the recent wave of protests. I mean, they already lost more than 30 people to a funeral procession stampede, they've got a serious death trade deficit to overcome.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:25
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If it's just a handful of scuds maybe they're going for the same kind of show as trump was when he tomahawked an empty lot. At least one can hope.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:26
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I don't think we're fighting 1992 Iraq.
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If they actually hit the base, no way they didn't kill people. These things have 500kg warheads and up
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RIP Syndrome posted:If it's just a handful of scuds maybe they're going for the same kind of show as trump was when he tomahawked an empty lot. At least one can hope. Will that really stop Trump from hitting 52 Iranian targets?
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Jan 8, 2020 01:27
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pro starcraft loser posted:Will that really stop Trump from hitting 52 Iranian targets? I dunno. It might if they can play it as an ineffective attack while Iran can spin it as devastating for the home audience.
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RIP Syndrome posted:I dunno. It might if they can play it as an ineffective attack while Iran can spin it as devastating for the home audience. I get the feeling we aren't playing the spin game anymore.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:31
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Charlz Guybon posted:If they actually hit the base, no way they didn't kill people. These things have 500kg warheads and up How much destruction does that do, will it blow up just a plane, a tank, a building, a small town?
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Jan 8, 2020 01:31
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Crankit posted:How much destruction does that do, will it blow up just a plane, a tank, a building, a small town? Well, a Hellfire which was used to kill Suelemani, was designed to kill tanks. And those have like 40lb warheads. So kind of extrapolate that a bit.
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Jan 8, 2020 01:33
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It’s ok everyone, put on your ballistic missile helmets and goggles
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Jan 8, 2020 01:35
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Crankit posted:How much destruction does that do, will it blow up just a plane, a tank, a building, a small town? I think you'd be talking around 100-200m blast radius from that. So kind of city block maybe (though buildings would absorb alot of that energy, so you wouldn't really destroy the whole thing, just talking the size of the explosion more or less). Randarkman fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Crankit posted:How much destruction does that do, will it blow up just a plane, a tank, a building, a small town? I believe Saddam hit a building in Saudi Arabia with a Scud missile (the same kind of missile Iran is firing right now) and killed something like 22 US troops. So they have pretty sizeable warheads.
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Can't help but be reminded of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOQCuRdWt-A
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theblackw0lf posted:Can't help but be reminded of this
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Jan 8, 2020 01:38
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This is kind of reminding me of the South Park movie when the war breaks out.
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Charliegrs posted:I believe Saddam hit a building in Saudi Arabia with a Scud missile (the same kind of missile Iran is firing right now) and killed something like 22 US troops. So they have pretty sizeable warheads. IIRC that one was a lucky hit, straight on a manned barracks building.
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Twitter I know, but reports of F-35s in the air right now
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Gresh posted:Twitter I know, but reports of F-35s in the air right now If true, would this be the first time they've been deployed in combat or have they been used in the ISIS campaign?
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