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QuoProQuid posted:https://twitter.com/Dannymakkisyria/status/1214714277568929793 This absolute loving monster moron in the White House.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:12
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I did look at the airbase on google earth and the area of the base where it's nothing but concrete runway and open sand is like 5 miles long by 2 miles high. Depending on their intentions and the accuracy of their missiles, I'm pretty sure you could hit the base with a bunch of missiles and do nothing but dig up dirt and scorch some runway, and maybe kill an unlucky maintenance guy. Not that will help now that they've given Trump a pretext to bomb the poo poo out of them. 
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Jan 8, 2020 02:13
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https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1214713856687259650?s=20
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Jan 8, 2020 02:15
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Jan 8, 2020 02:17
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My Iraqi friend has been telling me that a lot of Iraqis are actually protesting the Iraqi government for trying to kick the US out. He might be getting biased news from people he knows, but it sounds like there’s been a lot of dissatisfaction with that government for a while. (Focused mainly on corruption and Iranian influence, according to my friend)
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Jan 8, 2020 02:18
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https://twitter.com/vermontgmg/status/1214702040817061888
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Jan 8, 2020 02:20
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CherryCola posted:My Iraqi friend has been telling me that a lot of Iraqis are actually protesting the Iraqi government for trying to kick the US out. He might be getting biased news from people he knows, but it sounds like there’s been a lot of dissatisfaction with that government for a while. (Focused mainly on corruption and Iranian influence, according to my friend) yeah Iraq at this point is a post-ethnic-cleansing landscape. your neighborhood probably has the same politics and opinion on them that you do, because everyone else either died or fled. and there is no love for Iran there. that said, the Iranians kicked ISIS out when the US wouldn't, so while nobody wants to be Iran's puppet there's a sizeable demographic more content with that state of affairs than being the US's. give them a third option and they'd take it, but it ain't in the offering.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:21
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Gonna be a lot more dead Iraqis before this is done. That's where this poo poo is going to be fought.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:21
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I don't believe this at all.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:22
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CherryCola posted:My Iraqi friend has been telling me that a lot of Iraqis are actually protesting the Iraqi government for trying to kick the US out. He might be getting biased news from people he knows, but it sounds like there’s been a lot of dissatisfaction with that government for a while. (Focused mainly on corruption and Iranian influence, according to my friend) while all the major shia factions came together to vote to expel Americans, what i've heard in interviews is that the Kurdish and Sunni Arab deputies mostly opposed the motion. Is your friend Sunni? Because then he would have very good reason to fear Iranian influence in Iraq.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:23
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FizFashizzle posted:I don't believe this at all. It's entirely possible.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:23
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Freezer posted:Putting aside the tragic nature of the ongoing events, I find it pretty amazing that we're living in in age where we are able to follow combat manuevers and wartime diplomatic exchanges in real time via Twitter... It's perhaps the loving dumbest way for foreign policy or war to be conducted. Twitter is a loving blight
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Jan 8, 2020 02:24
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Kawasaki Nun posted:It's perhaps the loving dumbest way for foreign policy or war to be conducted. Twitter is a loving blight It really should be on usenet.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:26
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Squalid posted:while all the major shia factions came together to vote to expel Americans, what i've heard in interviews is that the Kurdish and Sunni Arab deputies mostly opposed the motion. Is your friend Sunni? Because then he would have very good reason to fear Iranian influence in Iraq. He’s actually Shia, and it sounds like quite a few Shias aren’t just rallying behind the militias.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:29
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Randarkman posted:Gonna be a lot more dead Iraqis before this is done. That's where this poo poo is going to be fought. Am I remembering right that that airbase is mostly manned by Iraqi military? Could likely be a reason it was attacked as extra motivation for kicking US forces out. I am in no way saying that the death of anyone is good, just speculating on a reason why that one might have been attacked instead of an airbase staffed with US personnel.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:32
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generic one posted:Am I remembering right that that airbase is mostly manned by Iraqi military? Could likely be a reason it was attacked as extra motivation for kicking US forces out. Also intensely gently caress all the people tweeting that “only” Iraqis died. Fuckin awful.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:34
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generic one posted:I am in no way saying that the death of anyone is good, just speculating on a reason why that one might have been attacked instead of an airbase staffed with US personnel.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:34
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Trump has successfully gotten the US militsry to be anti war this is solid. After the iran war we will never want to intervene again
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Jan 8, 2020 02:34
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https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1214718817361891329?s=21 What does this mean
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Jan 8, 2020 02:36
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Trump has successfully gotten the US militsry to be anti war this is solid. After the iran war we will never want to intervene again your brain is a fascinating place
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Jan 8, 2020 02:36
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CherryCola posted:Also intensely gently caress all the people tweeting that “only” Iraqis died. Fuckin awful. Granting Iraqis their full humanity, there's legitimately a difference in terms of the expected American response, and I think that's what most people are trying to convey. Everyone involved, including the Iraqis still living, will be better off if the US takes the excuse not to escalate if Americans didn't die.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:36
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CherryCola posted:https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1214718817361891329?s=21 No fly zones
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Jan 8, 2020 02:37
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:
Wha....what?!? Ok so the U.S just made up that it has bases, soldiers, and aircraft in Iraq and just totally lied about fighting ISIS? That the U.S didn’t kill Baghdadi? That the U.S hasn’t been bombing and hunting ISIS for years while running artillery and bombing missions not only for the actual Iraqi Army but the PMF as well? Because I’ll tell you first hand we had more than a few PMF come through the Al Asad aide station and they got American blood and as high quality care as anyone else, American, coalition or Iraqi army who came through Edit: like holy poo poo our sister team was at the retaking of Mosul, did they just make that and their videos and pictures up also? FizFashizzle posted:I don't believe this at all. The Iraqis and the U.S occupy different parts of the base so it ~could~ be possible if unlikely. Cenen fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Jan 8, 2020 02:37
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Would the Iranians really be satisfied if no Americans died and leave it at that?
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Jan 8, 2020 02:41
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Trump has successfully gotten the US militsry to be anti war this is solid. After the iran war we will never want to intervene again
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Jan 8, 2020 02:42
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Charlz Guybon posted:Would the Iranians really be satisfied if no Americans died and leave it at that? I highly doubt it.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:43
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Charlz Guybon posted:Would the Iranians really be satisfied if no Americans died and leave it at that? Probably. This would be the equivalent of us bombing that airfield in Syria after warning everyone that we were going to do it. We can spin it as a failure, they can spin it as striking at the Americans. Unfortunately, Trump is president and has backed himself into a corner by repeatedly saying that any response will be an act of war.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:44
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Cenen posted:Wha....what?!? Ok so the U.S just made up that it has bases, soldiers, and aircraft in Iraq and just totally lied about fighting ISIS? That the U.S didn’t kill Baghdadi? That the U.S hasn’t been bombing and hunting ISIS for years while running artillery and bombing missions not only for the actual Iraqi Army but the PMF as well? Because I’ll tell you first hand we had more than a few PMF come through the Al Asad aide station and they got American blood and as high quality care as anyone else, American, coalition or Iraqi army who came through oh, we certainly had bases. and we certainly put out some efforts. but the people America put in charge of actually pulling the trigger in ground operations, because we weren't willing to put boots on the ground, were the ones that ISIS overran loving -effortlessly-. we provided artillery support, we provided air support, we provided intel, and we provided drone strikes for the people who beat ISIS. who were Iranians.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:44
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Jan 8, 2020 02:45
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CherryCola posted:Also intensely gently caress all the people tweeting that “only” Iraqis died. Fuckin awful. Yeah, the impression I was getting was a sigh of relief from some shitheads, and that is seriously hosed up. mystes posted:Maybe they were hoping that the US wouldn't escalate in response? It seems like the Iraqi government is trying to push things along as quickly as possible, and it’s probably because they know DJT will do the worst possible things that he can without resorting to Geneva Convention level war crimes, but that’s apparently off the table now, too.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:45
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:oh, we certainly had bases. and we certainly put out some efforts. but the people America put in charge of actually pulling the trigger in ground operations, because we weren't willing to put boots on the ground, were the ones that ISIS overran loving -effortlessly-. The people on the ground who beat ISIS were Iraqi and Syrian people.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:47
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Charlz Guybon posted:If that report of a second wave of missiles and air force launching is true, that doesn't seem right. Don't read to much into the plane thing; if things are getting attacked then of course one side if going to put up their aircraft where they are both safest and actually effectual to at least potentially defend, and then the other side is going to do the same to make sure they're ready to defend if need be, too. the planes are just doing sky-donuts far from the border until everyone lands again
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Jan 8, 2020 02:47
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generic one posted:Yeah, the impression I was getting was a sigh of relief from some shitheads, and that is seriously hosed up. that said if Iran has actually avoided killing any American soldiers, from a sheer escalation point of view, we have dodged most of the bullets here.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:48
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CherryCola posted:https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1214718817361891329?s=21 Civilian air traffic is banned from flying over those zones.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:48
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OctaMurk posted:The people on the ground who beat ISIS were Iraqi and Syrian people. Let’s not forget the dang peshmerg
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Jan 8, 2020 02:49
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SchrodingersCat posted:From what I understand of f-35s, most of the drat things will melt as soon as they take off. Iran is still flying F-14 Tomcats. They would get annihilated in any air battle.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:49
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CherryCola posted:Let’s not forget the dang peshmerg They are Iraqis.
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Jan 8, 2020 02:50
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CherryCola posted:Let’s not forget the dang peshmerg Also known as Iraqi people
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Jan 8, 2020 02:51
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Charlz Guybon posted:Would the Iranians really be satisfied if no Americans died and leave it at that? If this all results in US forces withdrawing from the region, then maybe? Without having a vast amount of knowledge of regional politics, I get the impression that they’d consider it a victory if that happened, e.g. being pushed out by sovereign governments, the threat of violence, etc.
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