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mystes
May 31, 2006

Gobbeldygook posted:

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1214753311292702720?s=19

Either a crazy coincidence or we crossed the Rubicon. Hopefully the former!
On like any other day in the last year, a 737 crashing in an accident would have been major news.

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RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Gobbeldygook posted:

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1214753311292702720?s=19

Either a crazy coincidence or we crossed the Rubicon. Hopefully the former!

Seems extremely unlikely that it just happened to crash when all this is going on, the 737 has been around for a long time and is very reliable, unlike the 737 Max.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Any confirmation it actually crashed?

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/middleeast/plane-crash-iran-intl-hnk/index.html

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Oh joy.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Why does Ukraine always somehow show up?

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
If it was actually an accident it's one of the most horribly timed accidents in a long long time. The last fatal crash of a 737 (non-Max) was in 2018. The last non-fatal was sometime in 2019 but there are thousands of those planes in operation. For one of them to crash accidentally in that place while all this poo poo is going on is an extremely low probability.

And to top it off, of course, is the Ukraine connection.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

silicone thrills posted:

Why does Ukraine always somehow show up?

You know how Belgium kept getting hosed during wars between Germany and France?

Ukraine is the Belgium of the 21st century.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
One article said moments after take off, one said shortly. Really hoping it's moments and it was just a hosed up take off and everyone's fine. :(

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

The flight path shows steady ascent to 7,500ft and then it just ends.

Sonderval
Sep 10, 2011
Theres a video up on twitter ... it looks bad.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

You know how Belgium kept getting hosed during wars between Germany and France?

Ukraine is the Belgium of the 21st century.

Still a arguable improvement over being the Ukraine of the 20th century.

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

Sonderval posted:

Theres a video up on twitter ... it looks bad.

Could you link it?

Sonderval
Sep 10, 2011
edit, find it if you want to, dont really want to link to a death vid.

Sonderval fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jan 8, 2020

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

RIP Syndrome posted:

The flight path shows steady ascent to 7,500ft and then it just ends.

That doesn't sound great.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

RIP Syndrome posted:

The flight path shows steady ascent to 7,500ft and then it just ends.

Ah yeah, well nothing about that sounds hopeful.

Fires, floods, wars, plane crashes, when will this drat year end already!



Edit: Well poo poo. :(

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

dr_rat posted:

Ah yeah, well nothing about that sounds hopeful.

Fires, floods, wars, plane crashes, when will this drat year end already!
And earthquakes, don't forget the earthquakes

https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/status/1214755378141024256?s=19

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

It's depth and epicenter indicate it was the result of HAARP

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!




:stare:

Yeah, no one survived that. gently caress :(

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019



fake news, trump just tsar bomba'd tehran

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme
This could explain the fire.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1214759788757864455

mystes
May 31, 2006

As if the evangelicals weren't anyway sufficiently convinced this was the apocalypse...

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

That sounds nothing like repeated nuclear tests, no siree. :rolleyes:


gently caress.

mystes
May 31, 2006

mystes posted:

As if the evangelicals weren't anyway sufficiently convinced this was the apocalypse...

gently caress.

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019



so the Iranian response to Trump assassinating their 2nd most powerful man was some dead iraqis at American bases and a 737 with 180 people on board presumably dead?

jesus christ

Space Panda
Nov 15, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

taqueso posted:

It's depth and epicenter indicate it was the result of HAARP

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the earthquake machine. Many speculate it was used on haiti.

I think it’s over. Trump proved his point (don’t attack u.s. embassies) with minimal loss of life and avoiding all out war.

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016




That seems quite likely given the no doubt extremely anxious air defense operators, but I guess we should wait for more information on the technical issue that caused it to burst into flames and spiral straight into the ground before we draw any conclusions.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005


That was actually the first thing I thought of. drat.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

So does this mean if an American airliner crashes in Ukraine we can call the Vincennes shootdown squarsies?

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Gresh posted:

so the Iranian response to Trump assassinating their 2nd most powerful man was some dead iraqis at American bases and a 737 with 180 people on board presumably dead?

jesus christ

TBH that would still be less disorganized than the US government during this whole thing.

loving "draft" statement my rear end.

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
I sure hope it was an Iranian SAM missile that brought it down and not a air to air missile shot by a US warplane...

Seph
Jul 12, 2004

Please look at this photo every time you support or defend war crimes. Thank you.
That video certainly looks like a bomb going off on the plane or it getting hit by ordinance. The sudden cutoff of the ADS data supports that theory too. If it had been a fire or some sort of pilot error the plane would have transmitted all the way into the ground. An airliner hasn't spontaneously exploded in decades so foul play of some sort is almost certainly the cause here.

Rest in peace to all those aboard.

Seph fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Jan 8, 2020

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


what a hosed up day

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Charliegrs posted:

I sure hope it was an Iranian SAM missile that brought it down and not a air to air missile shot by a US warplane...

You think the Iranians wouldn't have noticed and screamed very loudly about an American aircraft flying towards Tehran?

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
I thought the FAA did a no fly zone?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Gamerofthegame posted:

I thought the FAA did a no fly zone?

No fly zone for American flagged carriers and aircraft, everyone else is still free to fly in that area at their own risk.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



I don't think it was shot down. Through the past 5 hours or so I was watching flightradar and there were hundreds of planes flying over Iran and Iraq without a care in the world. Doubtful they'd shoot down a plane that just took off at 8,000 feet.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
There's no way they could've watched that plane appear on their radar from their own major airport and mistaken it for a hostile plane just loving appearing over Tehran from out of the blue.

Seph
Jul 12, 2004

Please look at this photo every time you support or defend war crimes. Thank you.

Zotix posted:

I don't think it was shot down. Through the past 5 hours or so I was watching flightradar and there were hundreds of planes flying over Iran and Iraq without a care in the world. Doubtful they'd shoot down a plane that just took off at 8,000 feet.

It was a sudden catastrophic failure at 8000 feet. Not many things can cause that in modern aircraft. Even an engine fire would have burned for minutes and melted the pylon off before making the fuel tank explode.

Obviously it's possible to have been some design fault with the aircraft but this is a model that has been flying for decades without anything like this happening. For it to suddenly emerge on an airframe that is 3 years old in the middle of a country hours after they launched some missiles at the USA seems astronomically unlikely to me.

Seph fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jan 8, 2020

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Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009
Does Iran operate BUK anti air missiles?

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