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Toxic Mental posted:Just look at what happens to people who come into money too fast: I always loved how in Homer's fantasies, Marge is a vastly different woman.
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I like when he pictures her mowing the lawn lol
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I still think the “You pressed you, referring to me. The correct answer was you” bit is one of the best bits of simpson writing.
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Phlegmish posted:There's that episode in the first season where Louise ruthlessly exploits her classmates. I'd say it's fairly meanspirited. Does she mellow out as the series progresses? A little late to reply to this, but yes, she does, I want to say season 4 is where they start toning down the constant yelling from the characters, and by season 6 it's almost gone completely. Louise over the last few seasons has been much more mellow. Gene too.
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Look at the animation on the gun twirling, making his hand bob around, the subtle blue on the gun, the way Marge's eyes move with respect to the perspective of the camera There used to be such awesome passionate animators working on this show, makes you sad to see it
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Toxic Mental posted:Look at the animation on the gun twirling, making his hand bob around, the subtle blue on the gun, the way Marge's eyes move with respect to the perspective of the camera
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Toxic Mental posted:Look at the animation on the gun twirling, making his hand bob around, the subtle blue on the gun, the way Marge's eyes move with respect to the perspective of the camera I'd wager it's more inspiring to the animators and storyboard artists to work off of good scripts instead of the algorithm-generated poo poo they're churning out these days.
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Toxic Mental posted:Look at the animation on the gun twirling, making his hand bob around, the subtle blue on the gun, the way Marge's eyes move with respect to the perspective of the camera I'm a cartoon geek, have framed animation cels hanging in my apartment, some of which if you were to break in front of me I'd be going to prison for years or decades by the time I was done with you, so I'm very biased but I sometimes honestly think completely old school 2D animation should be resurrected / dug up and used again. No digital coloring, no digital touch ups, the works. But I recognize that would be lunacy, if you fight against progress you will lose, it costs a ton of time and a lot of money to do properly, companies would generally rather poo poo on a plate and eat it than expend this, etc. Besides... the newer animation methods used in The Simpsons compared to the classic seasons could always be worse. Much worse.  And the first few seasons had lots of errors, like the "mouths going the opposite ways of the heads" errors so... I forget where I was going with this. Zhumma posted:I'd wager it's more inspiring to the animators and storyboard artists to work off of good scripts instead of the algorithm-generated poo poo they're churning out these days. Oh right, this. "Hank Scorpio shows up" vs. "Random zany adventure # ${VAR}" as we increment into 2020 is... yeah...
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CHEF!!! posted:And the first few seasons had lots of errors, like the "mouths going the opposite ways of the heads" errors These were deliberate. They called it a “twist” Yeah, I know.
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Yeah I don’t care how bad an animator you are, you don’t draw the RObot frame(s) accidentally
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CHEF!!! posted:I'm a cartoon geek, have framed animation cels hanging in my apartment, some of which if you were to break in front of me I'd be going to prison for years or decades by the time I was done with you, so I'm very biased but I sometimes honestly think completely old school 2D animation should be resurrected / dug up and used again. No digital coloring, no digital touch ups, the works. But I recognize that would be lunacy, if you fight against progress you will lose, it costs a ton of time and a lot of money to do properly, companies would generally rather poo poo on a plate and eat it than expend this, etc. I remember an interview with someone about this. I believe it was Seth McFarlane talking about the episode of Family Guy where Stewie and Brian do their road trip through the multi-verse, and one of the mutli-verses is a Disney version of Family Guy, and they wanted to get the animation done traditionally, and it was completely impossible because zero people do it anymore. There are a lot of people who know HOW to do it, but real expertise about how to produce it is completely gone from this world.
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I know Steve Ressel, the animation lead on Invader Zim, was talking in the commentaries about how after the show ended the Korean studio they were partnered with had absolutely zero demand for the kinds of cinematic camera angles and movements he was directing. It also crops up in conspiracy theory circles about NASA saying we don't have the technology to go to the moon anymore. That kind of institutional knowledge gets lost if there's no avenue to apply it.
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I watched the B-Sharps episode last night (it’s great), but i never got the clever “joke” behind the name, like what else is there besides B# being a musical note?
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Jan 10, 2020 19:36
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Well it's the "Be Sharps", i.e. "be cool"
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Jay Rust posted:I watched the B-Sharps episode last night (it’s great), but i never got the clever “joke” behind the name, like what else is there besides B# being a musical note? I've been wondering that for a while myself, and I think it just ends at "It's not a real note," and it's not nearly as clever as everyone says. It's a music nerd joke but not really anything else but it's important you acknowledge how clever I am for knowing that by saying how clever the writers are and how most people don't get it.
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Jan 10, 2020 19:50
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It might have been waaaaay back in this or the meme thread, but I read another layer to the joke is that "The Be Sharps" is a play on the "The Be Dulls."
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They also acknowledge in episode that it's a name that seems clever at first but quickly loses its charm
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Doggles posted:It might have been waaaaay back in this or the meme thread, but I read another layer to the joke is that "The Be Sharps" is a play on the "The Be Dulls." holy poo poo
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Doggles posted:It might have been waaaaay back in this or the meme thread, but I read another layer to the joke is that "The Be Sharps" is a play on the "The Be Dulls." Eh
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you see, "sneed's feed & seed" established a precedent for the name of the business being the owner's name + two words that rhyme with the name. when you learn that the previous name of the business was "chuck's"... well, that's where the mind must fill in the gaps
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PostNouveau posted:I remember an interview with someone about this. I believe it was Seth McFarlane talking about the episode of Family Guy where Stewie and Brian do their road trip through the multi-verse, and one of the mutli-verses is a Disney version of Family Guy, and they wanted to get the animation done traditionally, and it was completely impossible because zero people do it anymore. There are a lot of people who know HOW to do it, but real expertise about how to produce it is completely gone from this world. I mean someone still knows how to do it, because Netflix came out with a gorgeous traditionally animated movie recently called Klaus.
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SirSamVimes posted:I mean someone still knows how to do it, because Netflix came out with a gorgeous traditionally animated movie recently called Klaus. And that was specifically done by ex-Disney animators who wanted to imagine what traditional animation would look like if it had been allowed to develop independent of CGI; notably, they considered even the "golden age" features like Beauty & the Beast et al. to be flawed in that they looked like "stickers on painted backgrounds". So Klaus was intended to explore what traditional animation would look like if its studio-supported goal were to make the characters look more like they naturally coexisted with the artistic style of the backgrounds.
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Wait, are we talking "traditionally animated" as in drawing all the frames manually, or "traditionally animated" as in paint on cels? Because Klaus uses a lot of fancy technology, matching hand-drawn animation done in Toon Boom with a fancy proprietary system for lighting and texturing, and even some CGI for some complex rigid objects like the ferry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_58ocvTk-Q The Kins fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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It's possible that something Mission Hill-related is being teased. https://twitter.com/thatbilloakley/...ghtmode%3Dfalse
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Plan Z posted:It's possible that something Mission Hill-related is being teased. https://twitter.com/thatbilloakley/status/1215064633813286912 Less teased and more kinda explicitly confirmed  How do you even make a new Mission Hill show in 2019 without it turning really bitter, considering how the twee SF/etc neighborhoods it was based on have developed?
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I just hope they keep the mockery of hipsters going in any Mission Hill reboot at the very least. I'll watch it for what it is which is my stance on any and all reboots being made today.
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In 2006ish a Mission Hill reboot got canceled when Adult Swim got the bid in for continued and broader Fox syndication. Later they tried to crowdfund one and it failed. But perhaps third time will be the charm
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There is a lot to say about society and human interaction these days, but we just can't let go of "gotta poo poo on folks it's the only way to do humor."
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Plan Z posted:There is a lot to say about society and human interaction these days, but we just can't let go of "gotta poo poo on folks it's the only way to do humor." I mean there are LOTS of places to go for humor that isn’t expressly about making fun of people, but fans of Mission Hill don’t want that. There is a very specific form of Californian I could watch an easy 3 seasons of getting dunked on.
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Yeah, I had trouble finding a good way to say it.
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Californian? I always thought it was NY. This is very unsettling. In any case late 90s-early 00s nostalgia is probably going to be one of the next big trends. Just set it in the past, who gives a poo poo. Not the people who are going to watch a MH reboot.
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The cultural elements and the specifics of day-to-day life always felt NY-ish but the name "Mission Hill" is loudly West Coast. I'm thinking they had their eye on the East Bay industrial-block lofts (Oakland/Hayward) that were in the process of being arted up at the time
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Data Graham posted:The cultural elements and the specifics of day-to-day life always felt NY-ish but the name "Mission Hill" is loudly West Coast. There's a neighborhood in Boston called mission hill; I don't think the name places it anywhere more than anywhere else
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Oh god... it better be good. It's my favorite series of all time. also, this is pretty lol : 
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Riptor posted:There's a neighborhood in Boston called mission hill; I don't think the name places it anywhere more than anywhere else Well poo poo
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Jan 12, 2020 15:12
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The show always did give me more of like a Boston/Pittsburgh vibe.
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It was a fun show. I like the literal daggers they'd stare
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I've got a buddy who looks like Jim and sounds like Brian Posehn, so my brothers and I always call Jim his name and I just had to look it up Jim's name (it's Jim) well, that's my story
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