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C.M. Kruger posted:From what I've been reading, the SA-15/Tor (which is what looks like was used going by photos of the missile debris) can be set to automatically launch on anything that flies into it's envelope and doesn't have friendly IFF codes, since it's a short ranged system designed to knock down low level aircraft/helicopters or cruise missiles, due to the short time it would have to engage, so there's a chance nobody even pressed a button. Truly a useful feature to engage on a system in proximity to an... *checks notes* International Airport.  madeintaipei posted:As noted, the Irish (that's a big one), the Scottish, anyone who is a resident in but not a citizen of the UK, British citizens residing in the EU, the Commonwealth generally, any overseas possessions of the UK, any EU-based company doing business in the UK, did I forget anyone? Oh, the Welsh. I always forget about the Welsh. I have a friend who is an Italian citizen going to school in Scotland, I wonder how it'll play out. Arrath fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Arrath posted:Truly a useful feature to engage on a system in proximity to an... *checks notes* International Airport. Sorry, they’re a prisoner of war now.
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Old Boot posted:Wasn't there a theory somewhere that inhabiting an alternate timeline means facing increasingly absurd poo poo that makes less and less sense as time goes by? Based on the fact that it never should have existed in the first place? The 2012 Mayan apocalypse actually happened. The old timeline ended leaving this plane of reality unmoored from any sense of normalcy and will continue to get more insane. That's my theory anyway 
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Old Boot posted:Wasn't there a theory somewhere that inhabiting an alternate timeline means facing increasingly absurd poo poo that makes less and less sense as time goes by? Based on the fact that it never should have existed in the first place? https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/history-is-weird
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Wonder what's going on in the worst timeli... Oh, it's our timeline.
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Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/business/boeing-737-messages.html quote:Boeing Employees Mocked F.A.A. in Internal Messages https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1215474248241709056 ly gently caress
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So i hear regulation is nothing but a feelgood tactic that wastes money our proud american companies could be earning because they police themselves fantastically
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Nationalize Boeing and give the tooling to Airbus
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its time to unwind the last 50 years of defense/airliner consolidation
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also, since every conservative I know tells me the economy is booming, surely retailers had a great Christmas? https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/business/jcpenney-macys-kohls-department-stores/index.html tl;dr Middle class retailers got hosed even with Christmas and all the gains are going to discount retailers.
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Stravag posted:So i hear regulation is nothing but a feelgood tactic that wastes money our proud american companies could be earning because they police themselves fantastically When the company culture needs to improve, the markets will dictate it!
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Actually this is good about retailers because it means funds can buy these chains and strip them for profit and shut them down for good
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dubzee posted:The 2012 Mayan apocalypse actually happened. The old timeline ended leaving this plane of reality unmoored from any sense of normalcy and will continue to get more insane. Nah. Whatever dark magic allowed the Cubs to win the World Series is what split the timeline.
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Arrath posted:Truly a useful feature to engage on a system in proximity to an... *checks notes* International Airport. The Russian pilot who shot down KAL 007 still insists that it was actually a military plane despite saying he saw airline livery, nav lights, lighted windows, and people inside it IIRC. Never know when those fiendish amerikkkans are gonna turn a random Boeing into a bomber for a sneak attack!
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C.M. Kruger posted:The Russian pilot who shot down KAL 007 still insists that it was actually a military plane despite saying he saw airline livery, nav lights, lighted windows, and people inside it IIRC. Never know when those fiendish amerikkkans are gonna turn a random Boeing into a bomber for a sneak attack! I imagine if you shoot down a plane carrying dozens/hundreds of innocent people you try pretty hard to justify it to yourself so you can sleep at night. The guys who shot down MH17 definitely thought they shot down a Ukrainian military transport (which they or another unit had actually done once or twice pretty recently before) until their people got to the crash site and found a bunch of dead civilians.
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Woodchip posted:how do you have de gaulle do say dis merci
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Some combination of them and their lovely automated Russian garbage hosed up. Probably could have been avoided if we didn't go and make things overly tense by assassinating someone. People should be held accountable but it's unlikely. Nobody got in notable trouble for IAF 655 either.
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Casimir Radon posted:Some combination of them and their lovely automated Russian garbage hosed up. Probably could have been avoided if we didn't go and make things overly tense by assassinating someone. If the Iranians wont hold somebody accountable, maybe we should target the responsible party with a drone strike.
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piL posted:If the Iranians wont hold somebody accountable, maybe we should target the responsible party with a drone strike. Weddings aren't normally what I'd call "responsible" parties
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:Weddings aren't normally what I'd call "responsible" parties I thought they weren’t supposed to drink in Islam? Sounds like a responsible party to me 🤷♂️
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Thump! posted:I thought they weren’t supposed to drink in Islam? Sounds like a responsible party to me 🤷♂️ ha haaaaa that's the darkest joke I've ever seen
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Stravag posted:So i hear regulation is nothing but a feelgood tactic that wastes money our proud american companies could be earning because they police themselves fantastically You're gonna hear a lot more of that stupid poo poo going forward I'm afraid
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Proud Christian Mom posted:also, since every conservative I know tells me the economy is booming, surely retailers had a great Christmas? BORAT VOICE MY WIFE works at Kohl's corporate.   Legit wish Amazon would buy them or some poo poo.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:also, since every conservative I know tells me the economy is booming, surely retailers had a great Christmas? Both Frys in Atlanta just closed a couple days back, and I was guessing it was bad Christmas performance that did them in.
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I've never been to a fry's and now I never will  It's a drat shame
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Man, basically my entire work wardrobe comes from Penney's.
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Pompeo now says the imminent attacks were going to happen, but they don't know when or where. In other news, death of the Sun is imminent.
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CommieGIR posted:Both Frys in Atlanta just closed a couple days back, and I was guessing it was bad Christmas performance that did them in. They're actually a completely different beast. They've spent months trying to transform into a consignment shop for manufacturers and literally no one would bite. They stopped buying inventory and well it's really pointless to keep the doors open if you have nothing to sell.
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mlmp08 posted:Pompeo now says the imminent attacks were going to happen, but they don't know when or where. The base (and miscellaneous dummies) will eat this poo poo up and they will bury their heads in Trump's crotch like frightened children
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lol he literally did it due to impeachment and was admitting it to people https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1215644318989418496?s=19
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facialimpediment posted:lol he literally did it due to impeachment and was admitting it to people https://twitter.com/Merv515/status/1215647390323089409
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Proud Christian Mom posted:its time to unwind the last 50 years of defense/airliner consolidation It's way past time we had our bazillion airplane makers back. I look forward to seeing Vultee and Curtiss-made drones.
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So it seems he went from extorting people with government cash for personal gain to assassinating people with government soldiers for personal gain. Seems pretty normal.
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Madurai posted:It's way past time we had our bazillion airplane makers back. I look forward to seeing Vultee and Curtiss-made drones. Douglass, Yoyodyne, and Convair TBMs...
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facialimpediment posted:lol he literally did it due to impeachment and was admitting it to people That sounds like grounds for impeachment. https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1215646219743178752?s=20
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fknlo posted:That sounds like grounds for impeachment. Art of the deal, baby
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fknlo posted:That sounds like grounds for impeachment. I don't see the impass, just pay the US $0 and they'll leave, right?
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hobbesmaster posted:I don't see the impass, just pay the US $0 and they'll leave, right? Are the bases in Iraq self contained? Sewage/water/power/etc. So the Iraqi government can't just be like "Fine you wanna stay, live in your own poo poo without water."
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